Sometimes I prefer the US justice system :-(

[walkur]

Today I read a story about a man who was charged with death by guilt (no sure if that's correct).

He killed a man and his 9 year old daughter with his car.
He was:
- Driving too fast
- Drunk
- Under the influence of cocaine
- Never got his drivers license

The justice department is asking the maximum sentence for this case:
6 years in jail and he can't drive for 5 years....

This is just makes me so mad :disgust:

BTW, this is in the Netherlands...

 

[amnesiac]

The justice system is screwed up. I'm taking Criminal Psychology this semester and in that class we learn how much it's REALLY messed up. It goes far beyond what the public usually sees.

 

[etech]

In Lebanon a women was charged with singing in Israel, her sentence was up to 15 years in jail.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

<< The justice system is screwed up. I'm taking Criminal Psychology this semester and in that class we learn how much it's REALLY messed up. It goes far beyond what the public usually sees. >>



This is very true. I have several lawyers in my family, and you'd be shocked at some of the things I hear.

 

[Cooltech2k]

<< In Lebanon a women was charged with singing in Israel, her sentence was up to 15 years in jail. >>



Damn, Was she Tone Def or Sompthin?

 

[Mitzi]

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<< In Lebanon a women was charged with singing in Israel, her sentence was up to 15 years in jail. >>



Damn, Was she Tone Def or Sompthin? >>



I think she was one of the members of the Spice Girls.

 

[Nitemare]

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<< In Lebanon a women was charged with singing in Israel, her sentence was up to 15 years in jail. >>



Damn, Was she Tone Def or Sompthin? >>



I think she was one of the members of the Spice Girls. >>



That is perfectly excusable then

Seriously though it's no better here..here you can kill a bunch of people claim temporary insanity..serve two years in a state hospital and then be a free man..or if you are rich and famous (OJ), you can kill whoever you want and walk scot free

 

[Nitemare]

Then again isn't the US considered barbaric and uncivilized by the liberal Europeans because we still enforce capital punishment...

Just goes to show you, the world/your country can benefit if certain individuals weren't allowed to live...

Because it's just going to happen again somewhere else because they know they will only get a slap on the wrist vs sitting in old sparky.

 

[AnthraX101]

<< Then again isn't the US considered barbaric and uncivilized by the liberal Europeans because we still enforce capital punishment...

Just goes to show you, the world/your country can benefit if certain individuals weren't allowed to live...

Because it's just going to happen again somewhere else because they know they will only get a slap on the wrist vs sitting in old sparky. >>



And we think them brain-dead librals "TAKE MY MONEY AWAY!!!!" Ha! Take that czar!

Armani

 

[etech]

Judge demands prison for Lebanese woman for singing in Israel
Source: Associated Press
Publication date: 2002-02-06

BEIRUT, Lebanon (AP) -- A military judge Wednesday formally charged a Lebanese woman of ``contacting Israel'' by singing in the Jewish state, a charge that carries up to 15 years in prison.
An indictment read by judge Riad Talieh also accused singer Nada Rizk of frequently visiting Israel, giving an interview to Israel radio on Oct. 24 about her singing career, and of marrying Abdel Basset Ahmed bin Oudeh, an Israeli-Arab who worked for the Israeli intelligence service, Mossad. Rizk is believed to be living in Israel.
Lebanon is technically at war with Israel, banning any dealings or contacts with the Jewish state, which withdrew from a border zone in south Lebanon in May 2000, ending an 18-year occupation.
Bishara Rizk, Nada's brother, was recently sentenced by a military court to six months in jail for collaboration with Israel and the South Lebanon Army, a militia that helped Israel police the border zone. Their father, Jerjis, had served as a senior SLA commander before he fled with his wife to Israel after its pullout.

In Kuwait, meanwhile, an anti-Israel group slammed a senior government official for taking part in a Washington seminar with two Israeli speakers, saying his ``abominable deed'' was punishable by law.
The People's Congress for Resisting Normalization Between the Israeli Enemy and the Gulf said in a statement Wednesday that it had held an emergency meeting when it learned that Shafiq al-Ghabra participated in the seminar with Israel's former foreign minister, Shlomo Ben-Ami, and the president of Tel Aviv University, Itamar Rabinovitch.
The weekend seminar discussed the Middle East peace process.

Al-Ghabra, who heads the state's Kuwait Information Office in Washington, is also a political science lecturer at Kuwait University.
Kuwait's government refuses to have any formal ties with Israel before a peace settlement between the Jewish state and all its Arab neighbors is in place. But after the 1991 Gulf War that liberated the country from a seven-month Iraqi occupation, Kuwait ended its boycott of companies that do business with Israel, citing ``considerations of national interest.'' Many such companies were needed for post-war reconstruction.

 

[SagaLore]

<< The justice system is screwed up. I'm taking Criminal Psychology this semester and in that class we learn how much it's REALLY messed up. It goes far beyond what the public usually sees. >>




I think there should be a constitutional amendment, that sets expiration dates for ALL federal, state, and local laws, which have to be reviewed for renewal when nearing expiration.

That way our justice system is constantly refreshed. That's a lot easier than have to fight to get the law removed, instead you have to fight to keep it in action.

 

[amnesiac]

I don't see how that would help anything. That would just clog the system up even more, having to review all the laws every time they come up.

Right now a death penalty case takes about 2 years to resolve. Imagine the snafu if defense lawyers could not only take existing BS condition but also delay conditions to fight a law. That would be ridiculous.

Also, this whole misconception about claiming "temporary insanity" is not as easy as one might think. It's a bit easier to get away with stuff in a backwards state like Texas (oh, the things we hear about the Texan justice system!!) but it's truly difficult to plead insanity when you're not actually insane.

 

[Elledan]

<< Today I read a story about a man who was charged with death by guilt (no sure if that's correct).

He killed a man and his 9 year old daughter with his car.
He was:
- Driving too fast
- Drunk
- Under the influence of cocaine
- Never got his drivers license

The justice department is asking the maximum sentence for this case:
6 years in jail and he can't drive for 5 years....

This is just makes me so mad :disgust:

BTW, this is in the Netherlands... >>


And why exactly do you think that a longer jail-sentence and/or prohibition to drive a car will be any more effective.

Punishment remains a futile exercise of power.