ThePresence
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My condolences to the families involved in this horrible tragedy. My mom woke me up to the news this morning to my surprise.
I just saw this news.... Remains found of one crewman....
Also just saw this....it makes me very angry though...
Iraqis Call Shuttle disaster, God's Vengeance.
I just saw this news.... Remains found of one crewman....
Also just saw this....it makes me very angry though...
Iraqis Call Shuttle disaster, God's Vengeance.
Originally posted by: Chadder007
My condolences to the families involved in this horrible tragedy. My mom woke me up to the news this morning to my surprise.
I just saw this news.... Remains found of one crewman....
Also just saw this....it makes me very angry though...
Iraqis Call Shuttle disaster, God's Vengeance.
The Iraqis have lost any support and/or sympathy I may have had for them. Maybe they'll figure who's side Allah is really on after we level their military.
In remembrance of the brave heroes who lost their lives today:
*Takes off hat*
*Salutes*
*Cries*
Originally posted by: Chadder007
My condolences to the families involved in this horrible tragedy. My mom woke me up to the news this morning to my surprise.
I just saw this news.... Remains found of one crewman....
Also just saw this....it makes me very angry though...
Iraqis Call Shuttle disaster, God's Vengeance.
Oh really! I just read the linked article. That's it. I've gone from being a moderate to hawk.
They thinks it's funny to laugh at our tragedy? Then I'll have a good laugh when their country is broken! :|
And what else did you expect them to say? Don't put any stock into these "news" stories out of Iraq. It's more state sponsored BS. You know of course that western reporters are escorted by Iraqi officials, correct? So it's doubtfull they'ld get any other response in the last week.
Don't think this is the Iraqi people speaking. Most of them probably haven't heard or care less.
Don't think this is the Iraqi people speaking. Most of them probably haven't heard or care less.
Too true. This is the Iraqi government speaking, not the general population. Trust me. Like Wag said, they may not even know- they don't have easy access to TV news or the Internet. Few still have radios. Don't take your access to information technology for granted, folks. Freely roaming the Internet and interacting with you people while simultaineous watching FOX News on my 27" TV next to it is a great thing.
No new developments really this evening- I need to go to bed. Will pick it back up tomorrow morning when the S&R teams crank back up. God Bless.
I just watched all the msnbc videos and it brought tears to my eyes. I was having a boring night of fps game playing and came to this thread with the inentions of trying to "troll" since I had no idea about this NASA space mission. But after reading the thread and all the news, I'm shocked, saddened, remorseful, and give my condulences to these venerable citizens, explorers, scientists, and loving people. May they rest in peace and may their families gain something good from this horrible tragedy.
-dejacky
You are totally wrong. The shuttle rockets up, and glides back. Only rockets used during re-entry are to flip it over and push it down. Why do you think they say it is like a brick with wings when they land??? Because they have no power to the shuttle AT ALL, except the comm and sensors. They even said that on the news...
Take this one step further, it could not have been the pilot error either, because the shuttle is flown by computers until the last couple minutes. It takes a live person to actually land the shuttle, but computers get it there. The pilot wasn't controlling anything at the time of the breakup.
Little one step further;
Shuttle was in a 'free fall'. The pilot was controlling the banks from left to right
. Other than that, it was on autopilot until about FL150 .
VirtualLarry
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With an Israeli onboard? That's just *wierd*... and very, very sad, too, for everyone involved. God Bless them all.
I remember the last shuttle tragedy quite clearly. I think I was in Jr. High at the time. One of the passengers onboard was a teacher from the local area, though I didn't know that at the time it happened.
I wonder how this will affect the ISS (and Shuttle) programs. I also hope that Bush doesn't use this tragedy as the justification for more tragedy. The world needs less, not more.
CaptnKirk
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Shuttle control is entirely by computer, pilot is "hands-off'.
Fred Haise demonstrated during and ALT test at Edwards in '76 or '77 what would happen
if a pilot interfered with the computer on approach and landing, he tried to make a stick adjustment
and banged down one side gear strut and almost hit the runway with a wing, kept quiet though.
Any flight trim from de-orbit is done by the computer firing short bursts from banks of
steering rockets on the nose - top bottom and sides, and on the Doghouse area on the aft structure,
again - top, bottom, and both sides near the vertical stabilizer. You can see them in some pictures.
The first launch was the only time the external tank was painted white, for photograph appearance.
The size of the Shuttle is overwhelming, the US flag on the wing is 6 ft tall.
The external tank when transported on it's side is the hieght of a 3 story building,
The Solid Boosters are 12 ft. in diameter.
On the Launch Mount, the Tail Service Masts - they look like tombstones on each side of the
shuttle on either side of the aft structure - are the height of a 2 story building.
A Greyhound Bus will fit in the cargo bay with the doors closed, and enough room
is left to place a mini-van in there.
EDIT: Cliped from a data site -
Space Shuttle: The External Tank (ET) is sprayed with a foam that turns orange (or rust colored) as a result of ultraviolet exposure (from the sun). This exposure also hardens the foam, improving its insulating properties.
The External Tank on the first Shuttle mission was painted white to match the white color of the shuttle and solid rocket boosters. However, the extra weight only added needless weight to the system, therefore the External Tank was left unpainted in its now familiar rust color for all future missions.
Fred Haise demonstrated during and ALT test at Edwards in '76 or '77 what would happen
if a pilot interfered with the computer on approach and landing, he tried to make a stick adjustment
and banged down one side gear strut and almost hit the runway with a wing, kept quiet though.
Any flight trim from de-orbit is done by the computer firing short bursts from banks of
steering rockets on the nose - top bottom and sides, and on the Doghouse area on the aft structure,
again - top, bottom, and both sides near the vertical stabilizer. You can see them in some pictures.
The first launch was the only time the external tank was painted white, for photograph appearance.
The size of the Shuttle is overwhelming, the US flag on the wing is 6 ft tall.
The external tank when transported on it's side is the hieght of a 3 story building,
The Solid Boosters are 12 ft. in diameter.
On the Launch Mount, the Tail Service Masts - they look like tombstones on each side of the
shuttle on either side of the aft structure - are the height of a 2 story building.
A Greyhound Bus will fit in the cargo bay with the doors closed, and enough room
is left to place a mini-van in there.
EDIT: Cliped from a data site -
Space Shuttle: The External Tank (ET) is sprayed with a foam that turns orange (or rust colored) as a result of ultraviolet exposure (from the sun). This exposure also hardens the foam, improving its insulating properties.
The External Tank on the first Shuttle mission was painted white to match the white color of the shuttle and solid rocket boosters. However, the extra weight only added needless weight to the system, therefore the External Tank was left unpainted in its now familiar rust color for all future missions.
Jeff7
Lifer
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Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Originally posted by: A5
Get a really good magnifying glass and try to read the writing on it...should be on the right wing. (At least Atlantis doesOriginally posted by: Zim Hosein
Just out of curiosity, is there any way to tell which shuttle is which from a photograph? The reason I have a picture of a space shuttle while it's on the launch pad, but I can't tell which one it is
I don't need a magnifying glass as the picture is larger than 11x17. The only thing written on the right wing is "USA," & on the left wing there is an American Flag. Also the "fuel tank" that supplies the solid rocket boosters is white
I've seen pictures in which the main fuel tank is white, and sometimes it's orangish. Just know, it doesn't supply the boosters; the boosters contain solid propellant, while the main fuel tank contains liquid fuel (hydrogen and oxygen tanks I believe). The liquid fuel powers the shuttle's three black main engines.
I had just gotten the TV on at around 9:10am, because someone from the cable company was to come Saturday morning to check some distortion I was getting on a few channels. Then I saw CNN, and something like a meteor. Then I saw the headlines.
Was just so shocked that there was another shuttle disaster; they were talking about search and rescue missions; I never thought there'd be any chance of surviving something like that. The speed and heat are just too great - and the final impact would be devastating as well.
Did a majority of the ship actually make it to the ground, or did a lot of it burn in the atmosphere, except the tiles and a bit of debris?
And when will people learn the difference between silicon and silicone. I think the guy just said the the tiles are made of silicone.
I hope that they will boost funding to the space program - a new shuttle design could be beneficial.
Here it comes... wait for it... waaaait for it... here it comes... JOY! The liberals have arrived! From Time Warner, no less. :disgust:
TIME.com: The Space Shuttle Must Be Stopped
TIME.com: The Space Shuttle Must Be Stopped
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