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As a conservative, I'd like to state that I think Clinton did an excellent job by revamping the Capital Gains tax. The move helped people of every wage bracket and could be partially responsible for the mildness of the economic depression we're crawling out of since it puts tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars into the hands of individual home sellers every year.

Now, I challenge any liberal to post one good thing in this thread that they think Bush has done. If you can't do this, then you're an official partisan patsy and your opinion on anything political can only be seen as the evocation of blind partisanship.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
As a conservative, I'd like to state that I think Clinton did an excellent job by revamping the Capital Gains tax. The move helped people of every wage bracket and could be partially responsible for the mildness of the economic depression we're crawling out of since it puts tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars into the hands of individual home sellers every year.

Now, I challenge any liberal to post one good thing in this thread that they think Bush has done. If you can't do this, then you're an official partisan patsy and your opinion on anything political can only be seen as the evocation of blind partisanship.
I'm not a Liberal but I will answer that anyway, he went into Afghanistan and routed Al Queda and their Hosts the Taliban after the 9/11 attacks.

 

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
As a conservative, I'd like to state that I think Clinton did an excellent job by revamping the Capital Gains tax. The move helped people of every wage bracket and could be partially responsible for the mildness of the economic depression we're crawling out of since it puts tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars into the hands of individual home sellers every year.

Now, I challenge any liberal to post one good thing in this thread that they think Bush has done. If you can't do this, then you're an official partisan patsy and your opinion on anything political can only be seen as the evocation of blind partisanship.
I'm not a Liberal but I will answer that anyway, he went into Afghanistan and routed Al Queda and their Hosts the Taliban after the 9/11 attacks.

And now he has moved on to Iraq and is dealing with a dangerous dictator there.
 
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
As a conservative, I'd like to state that I think Clinton did an excellent job by revamping the Capital Gains tax. The move helped people of every wage bracket and could be partially responsible for the mildness of the economic depression we're crawling out of since it puts tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars into the hands of individual home sellers every year.

Now, I challenge any liberal to post one good thing in this thread that they think Bush has done. If you can't do this, then you're an official partisan patsy and your opinion on anything political can only be seen as the evocation of blind partisanship.
I'm not a Liberal but I will answer that anyway, he went into Afghanistan and routed Al Queda and their Hosts the Taliban after the 9/11 attacks.

Good enough. Red earns a credibility card.
 

Nitemare

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Does getting rid of Socks the Cat and keeping the dog count?

if not

He was a good schmoozer and baby kisser
 

bigdog1218

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Like Red said i'm not a Liberal, I'm pretty much as middle of the road as you can be,

but Bush has done a good job with the Partial Birth Abortion Ban.
 

burnedout

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Yes, the cap gains tax revamp was beneficial - for me anyway. In 2000, I sold $17K worth of stock that was originally purchased for $775.00. The tax hit was compartively less than years past, if I recall correctly.

I'm also inclined to think the "Hope Scholarship" tax credit and "Lifetime Learning" tax credit programs should be considered among the more innovative higher education incentives. I've taken advantage of both.

Finally, Arthur Leavitt, the former SEC chairman during the Clinton administration, helped level the playing field somewhat for small investors.

IMO, there were quite a few good things resulting from the Clinton administration.
 

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Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
As a conservative, I'd like to state that I think Clinton did an excellent job by revamping the Capital Gains tax. The move helped people of every wage bracket and could be partially responsible for the mildness of the economic depression we're crawling out of since it puts tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars into the hands of individual home sellers every year.

Now, I challenge any liberal to post one good thing in this thread that they think Bush has done. If you can't do this, then you're an official partisan patsy and your opinion on anything political can only be seen as the evocation of blind partisanship.
I'm not a Liberal but I will answer that anyway, he went into Afghanistan and routed Al Queda and their Hosts the Taliban after the 9/11 attacks.

And now he has moved on to Iraq and is dealing with a dangerous dictator there.

Unfortunately he didn't finish dealing with Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan before he moved on.
I think he did a good job in Afghanistan up until his ADD kicked in and his mind wondered on to Iraq. I think this lack of focus will have fatal consequences for Americans.
 

GrGr

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor


Now, I challenge any liberal to post one good thing in this thread that they think Bush has done. If you can't do this, then you're an official partisan patsy and your opinion on anything political can only be seen as the evocation of blind partisanship.

Typical conservative tactic, the presenting of a complex question (you assume that Bush has actually done something good) combined with a false dilemma (You (we) must show that Bush has done a good thing or be "blind partisans").

Complex question: If Bush hasn't done anything good we can't say that he has done anything good.
False dilemma: If Bush hasn't done anything good we cannot show that he has done anything good but the fact that he hasn't done anything good does not make us "blind partisans", since it isn't our fault that Bush hasn't done anything good.

 

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
As a conservative, I'd like to state that I think Clinton did an excellent job by revamping the Capital Gains tax. The move helped people of every wage bracket and could be partially responsible for the mildness of the economic depression we're crawling out of since it puts tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars into the hands of individual home sellers every year.

Now, I challenge any liberal to post one good thing in this thread that they think Bush has done. If you can't do this, then you're an official partisan patsy and your opinion on anything political can only be seen as the evocation of blind partisanship.
I'm not a Liberal but I will answer that anyway, he went into Afghanistan and routed Al Queda and their Hosts the Taliban after the 9/11 attacks.

Yep, until this point, I was fine with him
 

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Bush 'officially' allocated millions towards the treatment of AIDS in Africa.

The number of millions is debatable that that was Bush's good deed
 

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Bush Got our soldiers back from China after China placed their mainland where our spy plane was trying to crash.
 

GrGr

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Originally posted by: tallest1
Bush 'officially' allocated millions towards the treatment of AIDS in Africa.

The number of millions is debatable that that was Bush's good deed

Then you'll be sad to hear that Bush later retracted those millions.

 

Ferocious

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
As a conservative, I'd like to state that I think Clinton did an excellent job by revamping the Capital Gains tax. The move helped people of every wage bracket and could be partially responsible for the mildness of the economic depression we're crawling out of since it puts tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars into the hands of individual home sellers every year.

Now, I challenge any liberal to post one good thing in this thread that they think Bush has done. If you can't do this, then you're an official partisan patsy and your opinion on anything political can only be seen as the evocation of blind partisanship.
I'm not a Liberal but I will answer that anyway, he went into Afghanistan and routed Al Queda and their Hosts the Taliban after the 9/11 attacks.
ditto.

I think Bush's foreign policy overall has been better than Clinton's in both military AND economic aspects.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Ferocious
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
As a conservative, I'd like to state that I think Clinton did an excellent job by revamping the Capital Gains tax. The move helped people of every wage bracket and could be partially responsible for the mildness of the economic depression we're crawling out of since it puts tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars into the hands of individual home sellers every year.

Now, I challenge any liberal to post one good thing in this thread that they think Bush has done. If you can't do this, then you're an official partisan patsy and your opinion on anything political can only be seen as the evocation of blind partisanship.
I'm not a Liberal but I will answer that anyway, he went into Afghanistan and routed Al Queda and their Hosts the Taliban after the 9/11 attacks.
ditto.

I think Bush's foreign policy overall has been better than Clinton's in both military AND economic aspects.
Yeah calling our Allies names is sheer genius!

 

Ferocious

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Ferocious
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
As a conservative, I'd like to state that I think Clinton did an excellent job by revamping the Capital Gains tax. The move helped people of every wage bracket and could be partially responsible for the mildness of the economic depression we're crawling out of since it puts tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars into the hands of individual home sellers every year.

Now, I challenge any liberal to post one good thing in this thread that they think Bush has done. If you can't do this, then you're an official partisan patsy and your opinion on anything political can only be seen as the evocation of blind partisanship.
I'm not a Liberal but I will answer that anyway, he went into Afghanistan and routed Al Queda and their Hosts the Taliban after the 9/11 attacks.
ditto.

I think Bush's foreign policy overall has been better than Clinton's in both military AND economic aspects.
Yeah calling our Allies names is sheer genius!
Hence the word overall. Heck I don't think we should have invaded Iraq the way we did.

 

Lucky

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He cut federal income taxes ranging from 15% to 10% at the low end to the oppresive former high-end 39.6% tax down to 33%.
 
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Originally posted by: GrGr
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor


Now, I challenge any liberal to post one good thing in this thread that they think Bush has done. If you can't do this, then you're an official partisan patsy and your opinion on anything political can only be seen as the evocation of blind partisanship.

Typical conservative tactic, the presenting of a complex question (you assume that Bush has actually done something good) combined with a false dilemma (You (we) must show that Bush has done a good thing or be "blind partisans").

Complex question: If Bush hasn't done anything good we can't say that he has done anything good.
False dilemma: If Bush hasn't done anything good we cannot show that he has done anything good but the fact that he hasn't done anything good does not make us "blind partisans", since it isn't our fault that Bush hasn't done anything good.

So you're in the partisan patsy column. Got it.

It can only be viewed as a false dilema if you think he's done not a single good thing. Therefore, for viewing it as a false dilema, you're a blind partisan.
 

GrGr

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: GrGr
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor


Now, I challenge any liberal to post one good thing in this thread that they think Bush has done. If you can't do this, then you're an official partisan patsy and your opinion on anything political can only be seen as the evocation of blind partisanship.

Typical conservative tactic, the presenting of a complex question (you assume that Bush has actually done something good) combined with a false dilemma (You (we) must show that Bush has done a good thing or be "blind partisans").

Complex question: If Bush hasn't done anything good we can't say that he has done anything good.
False dilemma: If Bush hasn't done anything good we cannot show that he has done anything good but the fact that he hasn't done anything good does not make us "blind partisans", since it isn't our fault that Bush hasn't done anything good.

So you're in the partisan patsy column. Got it.

It can only be viewed as a false dilema if you think he's done not a single good thing. Therefore, for viewing it as a false dilema, you're a blind partisan.


If you with your question meant that Bush has done something unequivocally good then I have to say that I'm not aware of it. The Afghan War also killed and maimed hundreds if not thousands of civilian non-combatants, that's not good. The tax cuts were designed to feed the fat cats and it is too early to tell if there will be any positive effects on the economy from them. The FLM Act somebody mentioned in this thread does look very good however, I did not know about it before I read this thread.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: GrGr
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: GrGr
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor


Now, I challenge any liberal to post one good thing in this thread that they think Bush has done. If you can't do this, then you're an official partisan patsy and your opinion on anything political can only be seen as the evocation of blind partisanship.

Typical conservative tactic, the presenting of a complex question (you assume that Bush has actually done something good) combined with a false dilemma (You (we) must show that Bush has done a good thing or be "blind partisans").

Complex question: If Bush hasn't done anything good we can't say that he has done anything good.
False dilemma: If Bush hasn't done anything good we cannot show that he has done anything good but the fact that he hasn't done anything good does not make us "blind partisans", since it isn't our fault that Bush hasn't done anything good.

So you're in the partisan patsy column. Got it.

It can only be viewed as a false dilema if you think he's done not a single good thing. Therefore, for viewing it as a false dilema, you're a blind partisan.


If you with your question meant that Bush has done something unequivocally good then I have to say that I'm not aware of it. The Afghan War also killed and maimed hundreds if not thousands of civilian non-combatants, that's not good. The tax cuts were designed to feed the fat cats and it is too early to tell if there will be any positive effects on the economy from them. The FLM Act somebody mentioned in this thread does look very good however, I did not know about it before I read this thread.
FMLA (and subsequent tweaking of the original act) was a Clinton-era thing, not a Bush thing. Just for the record.