Somethign that cannot be explained with science

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Epipheny

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Science cannot explain the force/entity which caused the big bang.

Actually, there are some very sensible answers to this. What is the probablility that a point of infinite (or massive) density spontaneously exlodes into a universe? 0 right? OK, lets take that. If that point existed for an infinite amount of time, then the probability of that event is no longer 0 (because 0 * infininty <> 0).

Strange.

 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: Epipheny
Originally posted by: SickBeast
Science cannot explain the force/entity which caused the big bang.

Actually, there are some very sensible answers to this. What is the probablility that a point of infinite (or massive) density spontaneously exlodes into a universe? 0 right? OK, lets take that. If that point existed for an infinite amount of time, then the probability of that event is no longer 0 (because 0 * infininty <> 0).

Strange.

Don't forget also that because science has not yet explained such a force/entity (and may not for some time), does not mean that science is incapable of explaining it. If that energy or impetus or whatever came from somewhere, it may be possible to learn more about that "somewhere". The universe may be larger than we think.
 

JSSheridan

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Ok, building on my previous statement. If you apply the scientific method to biased or non-objective information/data, you would get garbage. Since you cannot get meaningful results, it shouldn't be done. Can you really look at anything without bias? I don't know about you, but, personally, I can't. Peace.
 

AEB

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calling me ignorant isnt fair, it may have been a heartless thing to say but not ignorant. If you were the leader of a country and you saw the power of a nuke would you wait for another before deciding it was enough? i hope not.
 

Sahakiel

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Originally posted by: AEB
calling me ignorant isnt fair, it may have been a heartless thing to say but not ignorant. If you were the leader of a country and you saw the power of a nuke would you wait for another before deciding it was enough? i hope not.

One nuke may have been a fluke.
A second nuke would have been a confirmation.
You can say what you say now because history has been written for you. Think back to the events of September 11. The first plane was thought to be a freak occurance. Once the second plane hit, it became clear the first was no accident.

One could say that surrender should've come somewhere around Tarawa, but one must also consider that such thinking comes from ignorance as well.
In the end, those who are free of flaws are inhuman at best.
In your case, it seems to me you're not only ignorant, but also somewhat of a bigot.

If you wish to continue this discussion, feel free to post in Off-Topic.
 

ebaycj

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Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Originally posted by: alankool
Alright so my teacher told the class that if we could find something cannot be explained with science we get a 100 on the first major test. :D but the thing is I cant think of much. The best one I can think of is How god works. so my question is. Is there actually anything that exists that science cannot explain or is my teachers offer impossible to receive :(

Easy!
Women.

SO TRUE.
 

Mingon

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calling me ignorant isnt fair, it may have been a heartless thing to say but not ignorant. If you were the leader of a country and you saw the power of a nuke would you wait for another before deciding it was enough? i hope not.

You need to understand the culture of the people, they were more than happy to die for their country - but the politicians were not.
 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: AEB
Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Originally posted by: alankool
Alright so my teacher told the class that if we could find something cannot be explained with science we get a 100 on the first major test. :D but the thing is I cant think of much. The best one I can think of is How god works. so my question is. Is there actually anything that exists that science cannot explain or is my teachers offer impossible to receive :(

Easy!
Women.
women HAhAHH


Why it took 2 NUKES before the japs realized they were done for.

Sociologists can explain this.
 

CountZero

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How about what the universe looked like say 1 million years before the big bang.

Since the universe started from some sort of massive singularity type event then all data about the universe before then would be gone.
 

Epipheny

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Originally posted by: Mingon
'Create a mountain so large that you cannot lift it'. Because he can do ANYTHING, he would have to be able to do it. But then he couldn't lift it and thus he is not all powerful.

Dogmatic law, but as a mountain would have to be on a planet it would take a planet the size of the universe theoretically to hold your massively big mountain and as he created the universe he should be able to lift it, that is of course if he felt the need to prove himself *

* not my views on god, just the sort of argument you would hear

It is an old idea, and thus why a mountain was used. It simply means that God should (and at the same time should not) be able to do something beyond his power.


Originally posted by: rjain
People can easily can build things that they can't lift. In fact, that's been going on regularly for the past 100 years. Of course, this whole discussion is pointless, because religion isn't about truth, it's about belief in things that can't be observed.

Did you miss the point? We aren't talking about people, we are talking about God!!!

 

Lovepig

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Someone may have already said this, but since I ain't reading all these pages just to check here's my best non-controversial idea...


Science cannot explain why the ducks quack does not echo...! Goodluck on that first test!

You owe me all-i-can-eat at Taco Bell if the duck thing works out for you!
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: Lovepig
Someone may have already said this, but since I ain't reading all these pages just to check here's my best non-controversial idea...


Science cannot explain why the ducks quack does not echo...! Goodluck on that first test!

You owe me all-i-can-eat at Taco Bell if the duck thing works out for you!

Another intenet rumor.

Another link on it.
 

rjain

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Originally posted by: Epipheny
Originally posted by: rjain
People can easily can build things that they can't lift. In fact, that's been going on regularly for the past 100 years. Of course, this whole discussion is pointless, because religion isn't about truth, it's about belief in things that can't be observed.
Did you miss the point? We aren't talking about people, we are talking about God!!!
If a person can do it, why can't God? Is he that powerless? ;)
 

The Green Bean

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science can never truly explain what happens to us when we die.....Some one will have to be reborn :D . Science can also not explain the working of our souls....Has anybody though this?

1. Y am I me?
2. Why am i given the power to control myself?
3. Y can i only see what concerns me....In other words....Y am i not GOD? And if im my unique self, where was I b4 I was born.....I cannot truely understand my soul not existing ever....

Very deep thinking this....Occours to me

And the most unanswerable question of all....(by science that is....these questions can be ans by religion)
1. Why were we created?
2. How?
3. Do we really exist?
4. How did matter come into being...How did the unerverse become....
5. Who created us.....this is a very controversial subject.....We cannot have just been born without nything....there has to be sumone who created the unerverse.....Otherwise there is no possible reason why the unerverse came into being.....

Plz temme what u think.....
hatim
 

rjain

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again,
religion doesn't answer anything. it just conjectures and asserts those conjectures as fact.
something that can't be observed and/or doesn't objectively exist can't be investigated scientifically.
I can ask you why the sky above me is green (it's really a rather beautiful shade of blue right now). explain that scientifically.
 

The Green Bean

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if u go deep into religion......theres and ans for everything....not sccifying whch religion.....but whatever science has explained so far.....this has been told years ago by religion....
 

rjain

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yes, religion has conjectured incorrect explanations with no basis in observation and no room for disagreement for the same things that scientists develop theories for based on repeatable experiments and long discussions.
 

Goose77

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ok.. i think i may have it... maybe.


THE AREA BEYOND SPACE science has not studied it nor has it explained it?? space ends but whats beyond it????
 

rjain

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science doesn't study or explain anything, ffs. it is PEOPLE who observe, experiment, and explain using the scientific METHOD.
 

TekViper

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ok this is very simple. take an "scientific explanation" about ANYTHING and just keep asking why, why, why at each stage. eventually you'll get to a point on asking why something or such and such happens that they'll be no answer.
 

Sahakiel

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Originally posted by: TekViper
ok this is very simple. take an "scientific explanation" about ANYTHING and just keep asking why, why, why at each stage. eventually you'll get to a point on asking why something or such and such happens that they'll be no answer.

There's always circular reasoning.