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Someone on Ebay trying to scam me!

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Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: elbosco
Update:

Went down to the post office to pick up the necessary paperwork to file a claim but got something a little more than I expected.

An employee ran an inquiry on the USPS intranet and some interesting details were revealed.

As it turns out the package was delivered at 1:22 but was refused at 3:46. He had the package for over two hours. I would like to think even an idiot would notice the difference between a box that weighs 35 lbs. as opposed to an empty one rather quickly.

I'm waiting for him to explain this new information but I can shake off the feeling he's trying to rip me off.

Should I immediately file a claim with Paypal & ebay in light of this new information or wait to hear his side of the story?
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How can you refuse delivery 2 hours later? I believe insured packages do need signature. (I could be wrong). So, someone had signed for it, had the package for two hours...and then what? Called the post office (or took it to the post office) and then refused it?

Don't refund any money until you receive the package back and can inspect for yourself.
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That's the plan so far. Unfortunately, a postal employee said it could take a week for the package to be returned.
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: elbosco
Update:

Went down to the post office to pick up the necessary paperwork to file a claim but got something a little more than I expected.

An employee ran an inquiry on the USPS intranet and some interesting details were revealed.

As it turns out the package was delivered at 1:22 but was refused at 3:46. He had the package for over two hours. I would like to think even an idiot would notice the difference between a box that weighs 35 lbs. as opposed to an empty one rather quickly.

I'm waiting for him to explain this new information but I can shake off the feeling he's trying to rip me off.

Should I immediately file a claim with Paypal & ebay in light of this new information or wait to hear his side of the story?
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How can you refuse delivery 2 hours later? I believe insured packages do need signature. (I could be wrong). So, someone had signed for it, had the package for two hours...and then what? Called the post office (or took it to the post office) and then refused it?

Don't refund any money until you receive the package back and can inspect for yourself.
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not for usps. i don't even think delivery confirmation requries a signature, or does it?
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Nope, signature confirmation does. And it's more expensive.

I'd contact a postal inspector on this one and get him on the case.
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: elbosco
Update:

Went down to the post office to pick up the necessary paperwork to file a claim but got something a little more than I expected.

An employee ran an inquiry on the USPS intranet and some interesting details were revealed.

As it turns out the package was delivered at 1:22 but was refused at 3:46. He had the package for over two hours. I would like to think even an idiot would notice the difference between a box that weighs 35 lbs. as opposed to an empty one rather quickly.

I'm waiting for him to explain this new information but I can shake off the feeling he's trying to rip me off.

Should I immediately file a claim with Paypal & ebay in light of this new information or wait to hear his side of the story?
Click to expand...

How can you refuse delivery 2 hours later? I believe insured packages do need signature. (I could be wrong). So, someone had signed for it, had the package for two hours...and then what? Called the post office (or took it to the post office) and then refused it?

Don't refund any money until you receive the package back and can inspect for yourself.
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not for usps. i don't even think delivery confirmation requries a signature, or does it?
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Delivery confirmation does not require a signature.
 
Originally posted by: DeadByDawn
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: elbosco
Update:

Went down to the post office to pick up the necessary paperwork to file a claim but got something a little more than I expected.

An employee ran an inquiry on the USPS intranet and some interesting details were revealed.

As it turns out the package was delivered at 1:22 but was refused at 3:46. He had the package for over two hours. I would like to think even an idiot would notice the difference between a box that weighs 35 lbs. as opposed to an empty one rather quickly.

I'm waiting for him to explain this new information but I can shake off the feeling he's trying to rip me off.

Should I immediately file a claim with Paypal & ebay in light of this new information or wait to hear his side of the story?
Click to expand...

How can you refuse delivery 2 hours later? I believe insured packages do need signature. (I could be wrong). So, someone had signed for it, had the package for two hours...and then what? Called the post office (or took it to the post office) and then refused it?

Don't refund any money until you receive the package back and can inspect for yourself.
Click to expand...

not for usps. i don't even think delivery confirmation requries a signature, or does it?
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Nope, signature confirmation does. And it's more expensive.

I'd contact a postal inspector on this one and get him on the case.
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Should I contact the inspection office that services my area or the buyers? Or both?
 
I'm not a big fan of people who resells items on ebay to make a profit, so my original reaction to this thread was "HAHAHAHAHA. Finally some justice is being brought to assholes who buys multiple units just to make a profit." But being scammed like this is just wrong. I'm with you on this one OP, don't give him back the money!!
 
Originally posted by: elbosco
Originally posted by: DeadByDawn
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Originally posted by: elbosco
Update:

Went down to the post office to pick up the necessary paperwork to file a claim but got something a little more than I expected.

An employee ran an inquiry on the USPS intranet and some interesting details were revealed.

As it turns out the package was delivered at 1:22 but was refused at 3:46. He had the package for over two hours. I would like to think even an idiot would notice the difference between a box that weighs 35 lbs. as opposed to an empty one rather quickly.

I'm waiting for him to explain this new information but I can shake off the feeling he's trying to rip me off.

Should I immediately file a claim with Paypal & ebay in light of this new information or wait to hear his side of the story?
Click to expand...

How can you refuse delivery 2 hours later? I believe insured packages do need signature. (I could be wrong). So, someone had signed for it, had the package for two hours...and then what? Called the post office (or took it to the post office) and then refused it?

Don't refund any money until you receive the package back and can inspect for yourself.
Click to expand...

not for usps. i don't even think delivery confirmation requries a signature, or does it?
Click to expand...

Nope, signature confirmation does. And it's more expensive.

I'd contact a postal inspector on this one and get him on the case.
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Should I contact the inspection office that services my area or the buyers? Or both?
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I'd start at your post office once you get the box back. I'd go in with printouts of everything.
 
Originally posted by: animalia
maybe the mailman stole them for his kids
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It's not like I had "look here, two playstation 3's ripe for the taking!" printed in big, bold letters on the side of the package.
 
Originally posted by: CityShrimp
I'm not a big fan of people who resells items on ebay to make a profit, so my original reaction to this thread was "HAHAHAHAHA. Finally some justice is being brought to assholes who buys multiple units just to make a profit." But being scammed like this is just wrong. I'm with you on this one OP, don't give him back the money!!
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I purchased these units on November 17th. Trust me, I could've made a hell of a lot more money if I had sold earlier.

And I'm pretty sure everyone who uses ebay to sell items does so with the intent of making a profit.
 
That's interesting. I wondered earlier if he could have had the package, removed the PS3's, then returned the package to the post office to "refuse delivery", but when I checked the tracking info and saw it just said "refused", I assumed it was never scanned as being delivered (ie: he saw the box was empty and told the postman he was refusing delivery). That's also assuming the postman didn't just leave it at the door and someone walking by didn't open up the package and take them (although that seems pretty unlikely given this guy's track record).

Can you call his post office and talk to someone there? A box containing two PS3's would be rather large and the postman may remember it. It'd obviously have some weight to it as well.

Is that mail fraud then if he removed the items and claimed they weren't in the box? The people at the post office will probably know.

I hope this works out for you elbosco. If some scammer ends up in FPMITAP, even better.
 
Originally posted by: dahunan
Huh.. I have not read the whole thread.. have to walk the dog asap.. but

He is SELLING a PS3??
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-ps3-60GB-NR-Xm...4QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

AND .. these are the items he has won - looks like he has been out to scam people or ?? why so many PS3's??
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?V...rt=10&page=1&rows=25&completed=1&all=0
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Wow, look at that "PS3" auction a little closer. That's for a PS2. The title says "PS3" but the auction description says "a playstation2 with all the cords and cables" and the picture is obviously a PS2.

At least it's not white text on a white background, but it's still pretty shady.
 
Originally posted by: DeadByDawn
Originally posted by: dahunan
Huh.. I have not read the whole thread.. have to walk the dog asap.. but

He is SELLING a PS3??
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-ps3-60GB-NR-Xm...4QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

AND .. these are the items he has won - looks like he has been out to scam people or ?? why so many PS3's??
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?V...rt=10&page=1&rows=25&completed=1&all=0
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LMAO

This guy isn't even smart enough to use two user ID's.
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SH!T 😀 .. i just noticed that... is .. a.. .PS2?? WTF??



 
op: According to your mail receipt, you shipped it priority mail, right? BUT you didn't opt for return receipt (only a few dollars more I believe)? OUCH!. Anyway, hope you get this resolved in a favorable way.
 
Sounds like the buyer is trying to defraud the post office without his knowing. The buyer did not want insurance since he knew he would win with paypal. He also didnt want to worry about any sort of insurance fraud charges.

Good thing the seller got insurance.
 
judging by his bait and switch ebay auction and his previous feedback/purchase history, I definitely gotta say that this an attempted scam.

The pieces just don't add up to be a postal issue, but evidence keeps lining up that he is scamming you.

I doubt it will work, but I would try to call the post office in his area and see if you can talk to the mail carrier that was assigned that route to this idiots house that day. May be a longshot, but it's worth a try. Hopefully this will be resolved soon.
 
Originally posted by: SuperNaruto
Too late..

even if you withdrawl, your bank account is still linked for 4-5 days and it won't delete either.. and even with that, its suspicous on your part to close your accounts.. yes i would do the same..

i think you need to file some sort of postal report.. lying to postal inspectors are federal offense.. if he's caught lying.. its probably some fine or jail time.
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I agree.
By the way, did you purchase an insurance?
 
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: dahunan
Huh.. I have not read the whole thread.. have to walk the dog asap.. but

He is SELLING a PS3??
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-ps3-60GB-NR-Xm...4QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

AND .. these are the items he has won - looks like he has been out to scam people or ?? why so many PS3's??
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?V...rt=10&page=1&rows=25&completed=1&all=0
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What a low-life. I reported his ass to eBay, let's see what happens.
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I did the same. No PS2 for PS3 prices for you, Mr. Ebay Scammer.
 
New Update:

I just spoke with the postmaster where the buyer is located. He remembered the package coming through the post office and the fact it was light as a feather. He told me the package was undisturbed and the tape was intact, so the buyer may be telling the truth after all, however unlikely it may be.

I'll just have to wait until the package arrives to see the damage.
 
The postmaster remembers THAT package?


where did you send it? podunk usa?

If he remembers it "light as a feather" then he should wonder why there was a 100 dollars in postage on it.
 
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
The postmaster remembers THAT package?


where did you send it? podunk usa?

If he remembers it "light as a feather" then he should wonder why there was a 100 dollars in postage on it.
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he's the one that stole the ps3!!!!
 
Originally posted by: elbosco
New Update:

I just spoke with the postmaster where the buyer is located. He remembered the package coming through the post office and the fact it was light as a feather. He told me the package was undisturbed and the tape was intact, so the buyer may be telling the truth after all, however unlikely it may be.

I'll just have to wait until the package arrives to see the damage.
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if the postman is saying the truth, then someone from the post office is lying, or the postman stole them.
 
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