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Moonbeam

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Stop listening to the ump in your head. He fell off his rocker and is calling balls and strikes from you ass and confusing the lid of your toilet with home plate.
 
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Moonbeam

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Just brushing off home plate so you can see where it is. Some cross-eyed here don't seem to know where it is. Calling pitches isn't easy from the bleachers.plus I fucked up with auto correction. Fixed it more better now.
 
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Jaskalas

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My IRL MAGA are frothing at the mouth with this one.
When I came across data to debunk their hate filled propaganda, I knew it needed to be shared.
MAGA Nazis will not care about the actual numbers, but that just makes it all the more important that we remain vigilant and know the truth of it.

No, there is not an 'epidemic' of shootings by trans people

The claim that trans people are disproportionately responsible for mass violence in America comes up every few months.
It has never been true, Jensen said.
...
Jensen’s research has identified more than 1,000 mass casualty plots − when the perpetrator clearly intended to kill or injure as many people as possible − since the start of 2023. “You can count on less than one hand how many of those were perpetrated by a transgender individual,” he said.
 
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fskimospy

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My IRL MAGA are frothing at the mouth with this one.
When I came across data to debunk their hate filled propaganda, I knew it needed to be shared.
MAGA Nazis will not care about the actual numbers, but that just makes it all the more important that we remain vigilant and know the truth of it.

No, there is not an 'epidemic' of shootings by trans people

The claim that trans people are disproportionately responsible for mass violence in America comes up every few months.
It has never been true, Jensen said.
...
Jensen’s research has identified more than 1,000 mass casualty plots − when the perpetrator clearly intended to kill or injure as many people as possible − since the start of 2023. “You can count on less than one hand how many of those were perpetrated by a transgender individual,” he said.
No one wants to hear it and conservatives immediately go into persecution syndrome mode if you say the truth but if your concern is mass shootings like this the number one law enforcement target should be right wing men.
 

ivwshane

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No one wants to hear it and conservatives immediately go into persecution syndrome mode if you say the truth but if your concern is mass shootings like this the number one law enforcement target should be right wing men.

Speaking of…I have a friend who’s brother in law is in the FBI who was monitoring White nationalist groups and their division was closed down and they were told to go after Muslim/Middle East terrorists. He said they were looking for people who hadn’t been seen in a while (basically a wild goose chase). Meanwhile, white nationalism continues to be a real issue.
 
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fskimospy

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Speaking of…I have a friend who’s brother in law is in the FBI who was monitoring White nationalist groups and their division was closed down and they were told to go after Muslim/Middle East terrorists. He said they were looking for people who hadn’t been seen in a while (basically a wild goose chase). Meanwhile, white nationalism continues to be a real issue.
Since 9/11 far more Americans have been killed in terrorist attacks by far right individuals than by Islamic extremists or any other terrorist ideology.

Again, conservatives freak out when you tell them this because they are simply unable to handle this emotionally.
 

Paratus

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Since 9/11 far more Americans have been killed in terrorist attacks by far right individuals than by Islamic extremists or any other terrorist ideology.

Again, conservatives freak out when you tell them this because they are simply unable to handle this emotionally.
But look, if we have the government violate the rights of LGBTQ and immigrant folks long and hard enough then some of them will radicalize and react violently.

Then they can say, “See! They were dangerous all along! We are justified and need to violate their rights even harder!”
 

pmv

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My IRL MAGA are frothing at the mouth with this one.
When I came across data to debunk their hate filled propaganda, I knew it needed to be shared.
MAGA Nazis will not care about the actual numbers, but that just makes it all the more important that we remain vigilant and know the truth of it.

No, there is not an 'epidemic' of shootings by trans people

The claim that trans people are disproportionately responsible for mass violence in America comes up every few months.
It has never been true, Jensen said.
...
Jensen’s research has identified more than 1,000 mass casualty plots − when the perpetrator clearly intended to kill or injure as many people as possible − since the start of 2023. “You can count on less than one hand how many of those were perpetrated by a transgender individual,” he said.


Seems to me, that just as with the perennial debate about who are the worst drivers - men or women, young or old? Where the correct answer is 'anyone in control of a motorised vehicle', i.e. all motorists, they're all liable to kill. Likewise, the group responsible for mass shootings are "people with guns".

No-one has ever staged a terror attack by cycling or running as fast as they could into a large crowd. Nor carried out a spree killing by means of running around the streets or a school and punching a lot of people.
 
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hal2kilo

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No one wants to hear it and conservatives immediately go into persecution syndrome mode if you say the truth but if your concern is mass shootings like this the number one law enforcement target should be right wing men.
Cons love to hear about crime. Ever pass by Fox, 75% chance that's the subject. I base this on the claim that Fox is popular because they show what people really want to see.
 
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Muse

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This was a brains on fire person, quite the exception. I'm basing this on TV reporting I saw a couple days after it happened. Hate and murder were pretty much all that this person had on their mind. It was fortunate that the church had managed to insure that doors were locked once services began. That's a message to the vulnerable in America right now. The place is "armed to the teeth."

 
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Muse

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Cons love to hear about crime. Ever pass by Fox, 75% chance that's the subject. I base this on the claim that Fox is popular because they show what people really want to see.

True of the Daily Mail also.
Puts in mind a quote:

"All news is bad news, all advertising is good news."

I'm still not sure what to make of that.

Edit: A search's result has in-part, this,

Impact of the statement
The phrase suggests that an informed consumer of media should be aware of the inherent bias in each form:
  • News can create a pessimistic or alarmist worldview if consumed without critical perspective, as it disproportionately features negative occurrences.
  • Advertising, by exclusively presenting a positive reality, can create unrealistic desires or a misleading sense of perfection.

The distinction between the two is vital for the health of both the media industry and a well-informed society. Transparency is key, as blurring the line can undermine the public's trust in journalism.
 
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HomerJS

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Just to accentuate the point Trump doesn't care about crime or care about you.

He has said little or nothing about this mass shooting yet he's back on the Chicago trip yet again.

Doesn't talk about cop killed at CDC HQ
Doesn't talk about mass shootings including at this church school.
Doesn't talk about needed gun regulations

However, you can't get him to shut up if he can put a brown face on any crime.