Someday the whole Religion/War issue might make sense

MongGrel

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Turkey sends Gaza aid after six-year rift with Israel ends

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-36698727


This is yet another example of how nothing is black and white, even though a lot of posters seems to think so.


And even after issues in Suadi Arabia over time, the new guy in Afghanistan is running his mouth also looking to dare a drone to moosh him.

This guy should just draw a big bulls eye on his forehead.

http://www.inquisitr.com/3270288/u-...tion-of-afghanistan-warns-new-taliban-leader/

Globalization marches one, get with the program I guess.

I'm still miffed the US has nukes in facilities in Turkey myself, when they hate Kurds and just eat popcorn at the border when Daesh were murdering them.
 
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Jaskalas

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Bush made a fine speech saying no safe harbor for terrorists... then he proceeded to let Pakistan continue to exist. Now Afghanistan is a lost cause, as we're not willing or not capable of doing what is necessary.

And frankly, Afghans should be in charge of their own affairs.
If they cause further terrorism or acts of war... we know where to find them.
September 11th has been paid for in blood, it's time to let go.
 

1prophet

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Bush made a fine speech saying no safe harbor for terrorists... then he proceeded to let Pakistan continue to exist. Now Afghanistan is a lost cause, as we're not willing or not capable of doing what is necessary.

And frankly, Afghans should be in charge of their own affairs.
If they cause further terrorism or acts of war... we know where to find them.
September 11th has been paid for in blood, it's time to let go.


A man reaps what a man sows,

Terrorists are not some battle axe that can be put away in storage until the next war, something many countries that help create them directly or indirectly to fight their proxy wars somehow fail to understand and then are caught scratching their heads (especially the globalist, pro-corporate, elite ivory tower types that believe they know what is best for the little people) when they suffer the impending blowback.

And among terrorists the religious ones are the worst because they believe in something that can't be reasoned against or questioned and have no problem turning their rage against even those that helped create them if they feel their manifest destiny is being questioned by their previous sympathizers/creators that have gone soft and weak on them.
 

agent00f

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Bush made a fine speech saying no safe harbor for terrorists... then he proceeded to let Pakistan continue to exist. Now Afghanistan is a lost cause, as we're not willing or not capable of doing what is necessary.

And frankly, Afghans should be in charge of their own affairs.
If they cause further terrorism or acts of war... we know where to find them.
September 11th has been paid for in blood, it's time to let go.

What most westerners don't know is that when the US asked Afghanistan to hand over Bin Laden, they refused without evidence of crimes he committed. And of course we responded by bombed them into oblivion.

So the Afghans were in fact the principled ones in that situation, as opposed to amoral mass murders.
 

mikeymikec

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Bush made a fine speech saying no safe harbor for terrorists... then he proceeded to let Pakistan continue to exist. Now Afghanistan is a lost cause, as we're not willing or not capable of doing what is necessary.

:eek:

Are you serious? Or just channelling your inner despot for shits and giggles?
 

Omar F1

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I'm unable to grasp what Turkey is about, who got her back, their true allies and their enemies - except for the Kurds.

Every camel in the Arabian deserts know for sure that ties were never broken between them & Israel. It's just more drama to fool the gullibility of the general population of arabs. (even to this day, many still thinks they might be our saviors, forgetting in return that arabs were enslaved by the turks in the not-too-far history)


Of course, when you bring Taliban on the table, don't forget who had backed them up and helped establish their reign of ignorance, drugs and terror.
But yea, that smart-ass brought me laugh when I read his ancient joke "Afghanistan would be peaceful once you'll leave".