Somebody give this cop a medal for killing another ruthless pitbull.

[BUTCH1]

Any breed of dog is going to react to someone yelling at it and making sudden movements, but I see the owner as partially responsible here as he should not have let his dog out of the house knowing that most cops have a tendency to shoot any dog (specially a pit) that jumps around and acts excited. Very sad story indeed.

 

[BoberFett]

Fuck pigs, they're all shit.

 

[KeithTalent]

You enjoy scaring people.

Wow

In Ontario pitbulls are banned and it's a good thing.
Those dogs are unpredictable and can be very dangerous.

As for the video, the owner should have left the dog in the house. You don't let a gangerous dog on the loose.

I don't understand why people get these type of dogs in the first place.

I almost got one a short while back because it was a super nice, lovable dog that had been abandoned by its previous owner and needed a new home.

No way they should be banned. Fuck this stupid Province.

KT

 

[darkewaffle]

I agree that pits aren't any more (or less, admittedly) dangerous. It's more about the upbringing.

The guy who shot the dog is a fucking moron. Plain and simple - I'd never entrust a badge much less a gun to him. If anyone harmed one of my pets I'd be hard pressed to not retaliate.

 

[z1ggy]

If the police came to my door, I wouldn't open it unless they had a warrant to come in. I have a dog and even if it was barking in another room, they'd probably go out of their way to shoot it because it was a "threat" to them still.

Guy should have put his dog in a closed room, away from the piggies. Clearly the dog was friendly, as the first officer was able to pet it, with out fearing for his life. But, since dog lives are of no value, there's nothing to see here. /s

 

[DigDog]

from kickassfacts.com

once known as "nanny dogs", pitbulls were renowned for their love and care of children

Wow

In Ontario pitbulls are banned and it's a good thing.
FACT!!!Those dogs are unpredictable and can be very dangerous. FACT!!!
FACT!!! OMG SO MUCH FACT!!!

 

[LevelSea]

Damn, it was a service dog too.

Burberry was also a registered service dog: He helped Anderson with anxiety and depression, and even visited children diagnosed with Down syndrome and autism.

 

[SMOGZINN]

I agree that pits aren't any more (or less, admittedly) dangerous. It's more about the upbringing.

In the US 62% of all fatal dog bites are caused by pit bulls while they only make up about 6% of all dogs owned. The statistics could not be any more clear. No matter what the reason is Pit Bulls are clearly more dangerous than any other breed by a very large margin.

The guy who shot the dog is a fucking moron. Plain and simple - I'd never entrust a badge much less a gun to him. If anyone harmed one of my pets I'd be hard pressed to not retaliate.

This I think we can all agree on.

 

[moonbogg]

The cop felt justified because he's a cop, has a dangerous job and doesn't feel obligated to deal with dogs jumping on him. He believes that if the owner cared about his dog, he would have prevented the dog from jumping around the officers. I'd have to agree. If I had a dog and allowed it to jump on an officer, even in a playful way, I'd fully expect my dog to get shot, probably right in the head.

 

[JamesV]

from kickassfacts.com

once known as "nanny dogs", pitbulls were renowned for their love and care of children

That's pretty cool, never heard of that.

I watched a doc about pit bulls called Beyond the Myth and how police came and TOOK them out of people's houses in Denver (I think) to be euthanized.

I didn't bother checking the facts presented in the film, but they said Labradors and other dogs have far more bite and attack incidents than pit bulls, yet cops aren't yanking those dogs out of people's houses.

Check out that doc if you like dogs, it was really good.

 

[SMOGZINN]

That's pretty cool, never heard of that.

I watched a doc about pit bulls called Beyond the Myth and how police came and TOOK them out of people's houses in Denver (I think) to be euthanized.

I didn't bother checking the facts presented in the film, but they said Labradors and other dogs have far more bite and attack incidents than pit bulls, yet cops aren't yanking those dogs out of people's houses.

Check out that doc if you like dogs, it was really good.

The facts of that film were wrong. In a recent study of dog bites in Houston, Tx it was found that of the 1540 total reported bites during the period of January 1, 2014 to September 24, 2014, pit bulls led with 518, double the number of the next topmost biting breed, German shepherds with 253 biting incidents. Remember this is all bites, not just fatal, and with Pit Bulls only measuring 6% of all dogs owned.

Personally, I think we should outlaw the breed. But more importantly I think that we should enact laws that make owners of dogs more directly responsible for dog bites.

 

[JM Aggie08]

Lots of bravery in this thread.

 

[StrangerGuy]

In the US 62% of all fatal dog bites are caused by pit bulls while they only make up about 6% of all dogs owned. The statistics could not be any more clear. No matter what the reason is Pit Bulls are clearly more dangerous than any other breed by a very large margin.

This I think we can all agree on.

Why are you so breedist about dogs? *sarcasm*

I'm all for stronger laws against owners with shitty behaved dogs. Whines will be heard, appeal to emotions will be made, but hey like those irresponsible parents who make babies they cannot properly support, nobody forced you to be an owner, so.

 

[slightlyhuman]

picture broke my heart.

facts are facts regarding pit bulls but that cop should not have a gun nor badge, piece of shit.

 

[z1ggy]

I love how this thread is turning into how certain breads should be outlawed, when this dog didn't even do anything wrong. Oh no! Killer dog on the loose, walking toward people!! Ahhh!!!! Beware !!!

This is exactly the stupid knee jerk reaction that got AR-15's and other guns de-facto banned from many states here in the US. Oh yes, something is scary, we must outlaw it! That'll make the problems go away.

It's stupid to say pitbulls specifically need to be banned because of a 50% bite to 6% ownership rate. That says nothing about who actually owns the dog, which is much more important when it comes to dog behavior. Sure, 50% bites, 6% ownership... and how many % of that 6% are shitty owners who don't instill discipline in their pets? If you can't own a dog who could be more prone to being aggressive.... Then don't buy it. You should not ban a person's right to do something, just because you're afraid.

 

[dr150]

Pit bulls are an anomaly when assessing if they're attacking or being friendly.

They don't aggressively bark like a Doberman to know intent.

Pit Bulls trained to attack charge like a linebacker, are quiet in the charge and then give you that famous bone crushing clamp bite that doesn't let go. Alternatively, the charge could also be a friendly "Hello", but it may be too late if you guess wrong.

And if you're in the hood, you know gangstas always train their Pits to attack. Since I own an investment property in the hood, every Pit I encounter is of the dangerous variety.

It's difficult to blame a cop on such a beat. I'm sure they get dog training at the Academy to deal with such scenarios. Given that situation, you can't 100% blame a cop protecting his life. A Pit can be friendly to one cop, then attack the other. It can happen.

 

[SMOGZINN]

I love how this thread is turning into how certain breads should be outlawed, when this dog didn't even do anything wrong. Oh no! Killer dog on the loose, walking toward people!! Ahhh!!!! Beware !!!

This is exactly the stupid knee jerk reaction that got AR-15's and other guns de-facto banned from many states here in the US. Oh yes, something is scary, we must outlaw it! That'll make the problems go away.

It's stupid to say pitbulls specifically need to be banned because of a 50% bite to 6% ownership rate. That says nothing about who actually owns the dog, which is much more important when it comes to dog behavior. Sure, 50% bites, 6% ownership... and how many % of that 6% are shitty owners who don't instill discipline in their pets? If you can't own a dog who could be more prone to being aggressive.... Then don't buy it. You should not ban a person's right to do something, just because you're afraid.

I'll accept that argument if you will accept my argument that owners of dogs that bite should then be charged with assault with a deadly weapon no matter why the dog bit, with the option of manslaughter for fatal bites.

 

[K1052]

It's difficult to blame a cop on such a beat.

Pacific Beach is not the ghetto, by any means.

 

[JM Aggie08]

God, that was heartbreaking to read.

 

[darkewaffle]

In the US 62% of all fatal dog bites are caused by pit bulls while they only make up about 6% of all dogs owned. The statistics could not be any more clear. No matter what the reason is Pit Bulls are clearly more dangerous than any other breed by a very large margin.

I think that's painting with a pretty broad brush. You can quite easily find similar homicide statistics saying things like "The offending rate for blacks (34.4 per 100,000) was almost 8 times higher than the rate for whites (4.5 per 100,000)" but I don't think you could draw such a conclusion from such flat figures. There are a lot more factors in play - I would personally say that (in both cases, actually) that the problem is more socioeconomic than race or species related.

A cursory search didn't find any meaningful results about where dog bites occur (eg: urban vs rural) but I think you would need to identify where they occur and the distribution of breeds in those areas to start to get an accurate 'vector'.

Further while they only make up about 6% owned, that same source also indicates pit bull mixes/breeds make up nearly 40% of the shelter inventory at any given time - which I think is a potentially interesting indicator of how much more poorly those breeds are treated and cared for in their actual homes relative to other breeds.

One other interesting note is that that same report also states

They [rottweilers] seem to show up disproportionately often in the mauling, killing, and maiming statistics
simply because they are both quite popular and very powerful, capable of doing a great
deal of damage in cases where bites by other breeds might be relatively harmless.

Rottweilers, which contribute a not insignificant number of bites (about 1/6 of the pit bull total) while being making up 2.76% of the of dog population are cited as being 'quite popular' as a mitigating factor. Whereas while pitbulls are over twice as common. I see what they're saying, but I also would say it's somewhat slanted.

 

[darkewaffle]

I'll accept that argument if you will accept my argument that owners of dogs that bite should then be charged with assault with a deadly weapon no matter why the dog bit, with the option of manslaughter for fatal bites.

I'm down with that. Can we do the same thing by making shitty parents punishable for shitty kids? Cause that could be sweet.

 

[SMOGZINN]

I'm down with that. Can we do the same thing by making shitty parents punishable for shitty kids? Cause that could be sweet.

They already are.

 

[cronos]

I hate dogs, especially the ones who keep coming at me while I was clearly trying to get away from them (i.e. all of them). All pets, really. Nope, I'm not interested in playing with you, animal. Go away! (although they rarely ever did).

If I was that cop (I was getting away, dog kept coming, and I had a weapon), I would have done the exact same thing. But there's a reason I'm not a cop (and wouldn't want to be one) and don't carry a weapon, so things like this don't happen.

If that cop is that scared of dogs, he shouldn't be a cop. He should be fired, and thankful it wasn't a human being that he killed.

 

[Number1]

I almost got one a short while back because it was a super nice, lovable dog that had been abandoned by its previous owner and needed a new home.

No way they should be banned. Fuck this stupid Province.

KT

You're lucky you did not adopt it, it could have killed you or a friend or the neighbour's kid.
Those dogs can not be trusted.

Thank god we have provinces like Ontario to protect the population against people like you.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Looks to me like the dog trotted quickly over and started jumping on him. I mean, it's certainly normal happy dog behavior but I can somewhat understand how the cop came to his decision to shoot, especially given the stigma of the breed and the nature of the call implies a certain caliber of person and dog owner (since they hadn't determined it was the wrong house yet).

Allowing your dog to run out to greet by jumping on someone is pretty rude and poor training in general, but especially with cops, at this point, everyone should know to secure their dog first, lest it gets shot.

Still it fucking sucks and it's pretty clear police depts aren't adequately training officers on interacting with pets.