Somebody forgot to tell Joe this wasn't a town hall

[Patranus]

LOL - So if we have to cover everyone to bring down health care costs, but we are not covering 10 million people because they are illegals but only 10 million people don't have health insurance not by their choice and are legal residence, how exactly are we going to bring down costs by mandating insurance?

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Craig234
My position: I don't say it's always inappropriate to do this. In an extreme situation - the President is doing something very harmful and dishonest - I can see it being justified.

But this guy was not only wrong on the issue not justifying it, he was even wrong on the issue.

If Bush gave a speech and said 20 things the Democrats thought were wrong (and they were correct), we don't need them yelling 'you lie' 20 times - or probably even once.

It's really for something very serious to the nation when the political process is failing and disruption of the civility of the process is called for. I can think of very few examples.

It's not justified to simply express disagreement.

Ironically, though, the guy helped make Obama's point - just as he said there are people spreading this myth - a statement often used less than honestly to set up a straw man - this Congressman proved that there actually are such people spreading this myth about illegals getting this benefit, and the news coverage made Obama's point much more publicized than his speech did.

Ha, so it is OK to act in this manner if it is about something you personally percieve as being "wrong" or rather an "extreme" situation...who makes the determination if on the fly the sitting prez is being harmful or dishonest...does it have to be both or simply one or the other....

From your perspective Obama is "the man" wheras as far as I am concerned he is full of S when it comes to healthcare and what he proposes is both deceptive and harmful...so then this guy was in the "right" for what he did.

Whatever, I am not looking for a response, just funny to see your reply above, what a joke.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: Engineer
This has done nothing but help Obama and the Dems on this issue.

*sigh*

This has done *nothing* to change *anything*. Yesterday morning those who love Obamacare did not like Wilson, and those who do not like Obamacare like Wilson. Today those who love Obamacare hate Wilson, and those who do not like Obamacare love Wilson.

Wow, the political landscape has been forever altered in the Democrat's favor :roll:

What Wilson's outburst HAS done lead moderates and clear-thinking conservatives to question the inflammatory rhetoric of the far-right.

Now, when we hear "death panel!" or "government takeover!" or the like, it can be dismissed with, "Oh, another Joe Wilson moment."

Wilson has brought discredit on the tactics of the right, and the change in perception is bound to help Obama's health care initiative.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: Engineer
This has done nothing but help Obama and the Dems on this issue.

*sigh*

This has done *nothing* to change *anything*. Yesterday morning those who love Obamacare did not like Wilson, and those who do not like Obamacare like Wilson. Today those who love Obamacare hate Wilson, and those who do not like Obamacare love Wilson.

Wow, the political landscape has been forever altered in the Democrat's favor :roll:

What Wilson's outburst HAS done lead moderates and clear-thinking conservatives to question the inflammatory rhetoric of the far-right.

Now, when we hear "death panel!" or "government takeover!" or the like, it can be dismissed with, "Oh, another Joe Wilson moment."

Wilson has brought discredit on the tactics of the right, and the change in perception is bound to help Obama's health care initiative.

Lol...moderates and clear-thinking conservatives will not change their opinion one iota based on Joe Wilson's faux pas. Get real.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Just another fine republican pol spawned by the South Carolina electorate ....

Wilson may not even be in the Top 5:

Mark Sanford
André Bauer
Jim Demint
Lee Atwater
Bob Jones


edit: Honorable mention: Jesse Helms ---> born in NC along the SC border

 

[DealMonkey]

Awwww, poor Joe is a "victim" who needs campaign contributions stat. See:

Joe Wilson: 'I will not be muzzled'

South Carolina Rep. Joe Wilson released a fiery fundraising appeal late Thursday, calling himself a target of the left and vowing to push forward in his battle against President Obama?s health care reform effort.

??I will not be muzzled. I will speak up loudly against this risky plan,? Wilson says in the video appeal on his campaign Web site.

Wilson says. ?They want to silence anyone who speaks out against it. They made it clear they want to defeat me and pass the plan.?

?I need your help now,? Wilson pleads, directing viewers to his campaign Web site.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/s...025.html#ixzz0QoRVozRG

No one's trying to stop you from speaking out on healthcare, Joe, we just want you to shut up and show some decency when the grown-ups are speaking and trying to find actual solutions to our problems.

:laugh:

 

[nutxo]

It would have been funnier if he had thrown a shoe. :beer:

 

[spidey07]

Apparently his district is loving him for what he did and the campaign donations are flowing in like hotcakes.

 

[DealMonkey]

Yeah, he's made $200K, but his opponent has brought in over $750K.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITI...fundraising/index.html

D'oh! Poor, poor, stupid Joe.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Yeah, he's made $200K, but his opponent has brought in over $750K.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITI...fundraising/index.html

D'oh! Poor, poor, stupid Joe.

I heard this patriot on the radio yesterday. An overwhelming majority of calls to his office are supporting him.

:music:
GO JOE! A real American hero. Fighting to save the day!
GO JOE!

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Yeah, he's made $200K, but his opponent has brought in over $750K.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITI...fundraising/index.html

D'oh! Poor, poor, stupid Joe.

I heard this patriot on the radio yesterday. An overwhelming majority of calls to his office are supporting him.

:music:
GO JOE! A real American hero. Fighting to save the day!
GO JOE!

Figures you'd choose a douchebag like Joe to be your hero.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Figures you'd choose a douchebag like Joe to be your hero.

Lighten up. It was a reference to the GI JOE cartoon/song.

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Figures you'd choose a douchebag like Joe to be your hero.

Lighten up. It was a reference to the GI JOE cartoon/song.

Odd thing is, they're both about the same when it comes to being in touch with reality ...

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: spideyMcGowen

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Yeah, he's made $200K, but his opponent has brought in over $750K.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITI...fundraising/index.html

D'oh! Poor, poor, stupid Joe.

I heard this patriot on the radio yesterday. !

Uh the definition of Patriot isn't loud mouthed asswipe.

 

[Schmide]

Originally posted by: Pens1566

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Figures you'd choose a douchebag like Joe to be your hero.

Lighten up. It was a reference to the GI JOE cartoon/song.

Odd thing is, they're both about the same when it comes to being in touch with reality ...

Yeah but GI Joe has to deal with Cobra.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Schmide


Yeah but GI Joe has to deal with Cobra.

You may be on to something. Cobra has an O, B and A. in it, the majority of it letters.

O, B and A. O-ba-ma!!! Obama is really Cobra!

YO JOE!

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Schmide


Yeah but GI Joe has to deal with Cobra.

You may be on to something. Cobra has an O, B and A. in it, the majority of it letters.

O, B and A. O-ba-ma!!! Obama is really Cobra!

YO JOE!

I like where this is going:

GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: Budmantom
All Joe was doing was interject a little bit of truth..... Obama and the Dem's and the Republicans will have none of it.

Negative.

He is wrong and he behaved like an ignorant oaf.

I agree Obama is wrong and he always acts like an ignorant oaf.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Schmide


Yeah but GI Joe has to deal with Cobra.

You may be on to something. Cobra has an O, B and A. in it, the majority of it letters.

O, B and A. O-ba-ma!!! Obama is really Cobra!

YO JOE!

You should e-mail that to Glenn Beck.

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Budmantom
All Joe was doing was interject a little bit of truth..... Obama and the Dem's and the Republicans will have none of it.

Really, would you kindly tell me what truth he interjected that was not obvious, dealt with and that actually opposed anything what so ever?

Thanks.

He said that Obama was lying.

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Awwww, poor Joe is a "victim" who needs campaign contributions stat. See:

Joe Wilson: 'I will not be muzzled'

South Carolina Rep. Joe Wilson released a fiery fundraising appeal late Thursday, calling himself a target of the left and vowing to push forward in his battle against President Obama?s health care reform effort.

??I will not be muzzled. I will speak up loudly against this risky plan,? Wilson says in the video appeal on his campaign Web site.

Wilson says. ?They want to silence anyone who speaks out against it. They made it clear they want to defeat me and pass the plan.?

?I need your help now,? Wilson pleads, directing viewers to his campaign Web site.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/s...025.html#ixzz0QoRVozRG

No one's trying to stop you from speaking out on healthcare, Joe, we just want you to shut up and show some decency when the grown-ups are speaking and trying to find actual solutions to our problems.

:laugh:

actually...I hope he speaks out some more. I hope he says everything he wants to say in front of any camera he can gain access to.

 

[Schmide]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Schmide


Yeah but GI Joe has to deal with Cobra.

You may be on to something. Cobra has an O, B and A. in it, the majority of it letters.

O, B and A. O-ba-ma!!! Obama is really Cobra!

YO JOE!

Dude Cobra is the health insurance you get when you change jobs. No anagrams needed.

 

[Jiggz]

Basically, Joe Wilson is like the little lad who said the emperor doesn't have any clothes. That's all there is to it! It's an inappropriate and dumb comment by the little lad but it was also the real truth! So Joe didn't do too bad after all!

 

[cwjerome]

Joe definitely broke with traditional decorum, but with the US going British with UHC maybe he went into Parliament mode...pretty soon congressmen will be going around saying cheerio and rubbish.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Jiggz
Basically, Joe Wilson is like the little lad who said the emperor doesn't have any clothes. That's all there is to it! It's an inappropriate and dumb comment by the little lad but it was also the real truth! So Joe didn't do too bad after all!

But no. It was Joe who was lying. It's been shown over and over in this thread and others. Feel free to ignore reality, but please stop inflicting your ignorance on the rest of us.