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Moonbeam

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And those two accounts are alt accounts for somebody very high up on the food chain here. I've been convinced of that for quite some time now.

And if you go to the edge of the known world you will fall off the map and be eaten by dragons. You have a brain defect that when lacking information fills in the blanks with such paranoid thinking. There might be other reasons for the similarity in name but you never guess at the mundane.
 

dank69

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Moon----Beam

Lunar----Ray

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:rolleyes:

I mean, is he even trying? You're talking about "brain defects" with someone with a 6th grade understanding of Neurocognitive function, who creates alternate accounts to agree with himself.

Brain defects, indeed.
Clever, but I see through your misdirection. You joined the same month as Lunar Ray, therefore you are his second account.
 

Greenman

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Clever, but I see through your misdirection. You joined the same month as Lunar Ray, therefore you are his second account.

The reality is there is no reason why he couldn't have multiple accounts. You hang out at the kingdom of crap, so you're probably aware that WYD has several accounts here, even after revealing two or three of them. I would expect that most banned members have an alt (I know of three right off hand), and don't see any reason why some of the regular members wouldn't have multiple accounts.

The question is really, who cares? Other than the mods, nobody gives a shit how many accounts anyone has, the only time it matters is when they start interacting with each other, then it can get pretty weird. Flossie made that abundantly clear.
 
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My CBD is beyond repair...I can only hope that those who deem themselves to be less deluded will be gracious enough to have mercy on me.
 

D-Man

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I believe Lunar Ray and Moonbeam went to different schools together.
 

Moonbeam

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The reality is there is no reason why he couldn't have multiple accounts. You hang out at the kingdom of crap, so you're probably aware that WYD has several accounts here, even after revealing two or three of them. I would expect that most banned members have an alt (I know of three right off hand), and don't see any reason why some of the regular members wouldn't have multiple accounts.

The question is really, who cares? Other than the mods, nobody gives a shit how many accounts anyone has, the only time it matters is when they start interacting with each other, then it can get pretty weird. Flossie made that abundantly clear.

I can tell you one reason. It's not allowed. I think it't disrespectful not to follow the rules and a violation of trust. It's a sin to violate trust because it burdens the soul. This is an absolute.
 

Mai72

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Imagine an all Republican President, House and Senate. Add to that an all Republican Supreme Court. All of America's progress would be vaporized. We would go back about 200 years. Our country would be plagued with unemployment, foreign wars, and discrimination. Homophobia and poverty would be at an all time high. Our public education system would be in shambles. We would be in a police state. By law, a bible would have to be present in every home. Fox news would be the only news source left.

Does that sound like progress? :(
 
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Moonbeam

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My CBD is beyond repair...I can only hope that those who deem themselves to be less deluded will be gracious enough to have mercy on me.

There ain't no humility in that. In the first place it plays to the CBD victim mentality and secondly it's snarky. Third off it's defeatist. And it's insincere.

Truth will cost you everything you believe. You won't get it with cheap shots. But in a deep state of denial, one really can't take it seriously. Just imagine if you were defective and in denial. What else could you do but shine it on? You can't help being defective. Why would you deserve to be punished. I don't have the defect that causes those urges. The danger is from your own kind.
 

Greenman

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I can tell you one reason. It's not allowed. I think it't disrespectful not to follow the rules and a violation of trust. It's a sin to violate trust because it burdens the soul. This is an absolute.

I'd agree with that, it's proper behavior. But that begs the question, do you never break the rules? Do you always drive the speed limit? Have you never rolled slowly through a stop sign? Have you never seen a baby that looks like it was fished out of the river and told the beaming mother how beautiful he was? You've never had a drink and driven your car? You've never smoked weed or taken a prescription that had been given too you for a prior illness? All of those things are a volition of the rules or trust.

I don't believe anyone follows all the rules all the time, and in the grand scheme of sins, a second account on an internet forum if about 1% as bad as jay walking. The hassle of actually doing it is more punishment than the crime is worth. Which brings me back to my point, no one really cares, no one is harmed, and a pretty good argument could be made that Anand profits by those people with two accounts.
 

Moonbeam

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I'd agree with that, it's proper behavior. But that begs the question, do you never break the rules? Do you always drive the speed limit? Have you never rolled slowly through a stop sign? Have you never seen a baby that looks like it was fished out of the river and told the beaming mother how beautiful he was? You've never had a drink and driven your car? You've never smoked weed or taken a prescription that had been given too you for a prior illness? All of those things are a volition of the rules or trust.

I don't believe anyone follows all the rules all the time, and in the grand scheme of sins, a second account on an internet forum if about 1% as bad as jay walking. The hassle of actually doing it is more punishment than the crime is worth. Which brings me back to my point, no one really cares, no one is harmed, and a pretty good argument could be made that Anand profits by those people with two accounts.

I have a profound opportunity to espresso myself here, an opportunity for which I am also profoundly grateful. I honor that privilege via reciprocity, by honoring the rules. It is the offering of that opportunity that is the trust I honor. It isn't just anywhere that one has the opportunity to tell a party it't children are ugly sons of bitches, and, on top of that, suggest there may be a cure, that our standards of beauty are artificial, that conservatives are only ugly because they believe they are, that what was taken from them as children was the image they were created in. These are the most important words you will ever hear, you may not know that, but I do. I am happy, despite all the contempt my words may cause you to notice you actually always feel, because you do not remember.
 
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There ain't no humility in that. In the first place it plays to the CBD victim mentality and secondly it's snarky. Third off it's defeatist. And it's insincere.

Truth will cost you everything you believe. You won't get it with cheap shots. But in a deep state of denial, one really can't take it seriously. Just imagine if you were defective and in denial. What else could you do but shine it on? You can't help being defective. Why would you deserve to be punished. I don't have the defect that causes those urges. The danger is from your own kind.
I can assure you that my statement you quoted is relatively sincere. There was no attempt to be humble or to play the victim as you've imagined, as I'm fully aware that I have numerous shortcomings ("defects" if you will) that I'll never be able to change or overcome in this lifetime. However, I do admit that my statement was intended to be "snarky" as it was specifically directed to those among us who feel a need to assert their superiority over others. I merely suggested a way for these folks to exhibit this "superiority" in a genuine way that's simple enough for a defective brain to understand. What you call a "cheap shot" is the crux of this matter in my less than humble opinion.
 

Greenman

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I have a profound opportunity to espresso myself here, an opportunity for which I am also profoundly grateful. I honor that privilege via reciprocity, by honoring the rules. It is the offering of that opportunity that is the trust I honor. It isn't just anywhere that one has the opportunity to tell a party it't children are ugly sons of bitches, and, on top of that, suggest there may be a cure, that our standards of beauty are artificial, that conservatives are only ugly because they believe they are, that what was taken from them as children was the image they were created in. These are the most important words you will ever hear, you may not know that, but I do. I am happy, despite all the contempt my words may cause you to notice you actually always feel, because you do not remember.

Not much of an answer. It sounds as though trolling is a big part of your life and you don't want to give it up. I can understand that to a certain extant. Though reading is much more rewarding.
 

Moonbeam

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I can assure you that my statement you quoted is relatively sincere. There was no attempt to be humble or to play the victim as you've imagined, as I'm fully aware that I have numerous shortcomings ("defects" if you will) that I'll never be able to change or overcome in this lifetime. However, I do admit that my statement was intended to be "snarky" as it was specifically directed to those among us who feel a need to assert their superiority over others. I merely suggested a way for these folks to exhibit this "superiority" in a genuine way that's simple enough for a defective brain to understand. What you call a "cheap shot" is the crux of this matter in my less than humble opinion.

My point since I first began to post here is that truth is always a third way, that liberal and conservative thinking are two common strategies employed to survive childhood conditioning, one involving identification with the oppressor and one that more sympathizes with the victim. The former is filled with guilt and self contempt and denial because he or she has deeply betrayed his or her true self, and the other is blinded by sympathy for the victim to the rage and dangerous acting out victims manifest when tyranny is lifted.

A third state of consciousness can arise, I suggest, when one obtains a state of awareness and transcendence of the childhood conditioning. He or shee who remembers ones childhood traumatic events can heal that pain via the experience of grief.

Now since the way we were conditioned was via being put down and forced to experience pain, made to feel like the worst in the world, it is obvious why people are defensive, competative, and obsessed with not being made to feel inferior and why also they see, feel, project, that going on everywhere.

Now just imagine if one could be free of such self hate, what that might mean.

I think such a person would be free of the need to compete. He or she might derive a sense of happiness and joy in being, have no need to put others down, would recognize instantly the symptoms of the disease he or she had left behind, and wish for others the same feeling of grace. He or she might also know something about the path one needs to travel to get there.

So when you go to the doctor, you don't say the doctor was there to show off the fact he was healthy and you were sick because you went there knowing you were sick. But what if the disease was invisible to the person who has it?
 

Moonbeam

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Not much of an answer. It sounds as though trolling is a big part of your life and you don't want to give it up. I can understand that to a certain extant. Though reading is much more rewarding.

The accusation that I am here to troll caused me to stop posting here some years back. I was gone never to come back. You get two questions, one of which I will answer. After, I don't remember now, maybe a year, somebody I like a lot asked me to come back. Who that was, of course, I won't tell you. When you collect as many ticks and fleas as I do, you don't wish them on anybody else.
 

Greenman

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The accusation that I am here to troll caused me to stop posting here some years back. I was gone never to come back. You get two questions, one of which I will answer. After, I don't remember now, maybe a year, somebody I like a lot asked me to come back. Who that was, of course, I won't tell you. When you collect as many ticks and fleas as I do, you don't wish them on anybody else.

Who are you trying to fool Moonie? Of course you're a troll. The entire cooties thing is all about trolling. The point is to annoy people then be obtuse or angry when you're called out on it. Don't pee on my leg then tell me it's raining.
You collect ticks and fleas because you lay down with dogs, what result did you expect? When you actively demean and belittle people they will respond, and those responses aren't going to be pleasant.
You're not stupid moonie, but you're badly misguided if believe that you're really enlightening anyone.
 

Moonbeam

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Who are you trying to fool Moonie? Of course you're a troll. The entire cooties thing is all about trolling. The point is to annoy people then be obtuse or angry when you're called out on it. Don't pee on my leg then tell me it's raining.
You collect ticks and fleas because you lay down with dogs, what result did you expect? When you actively demean and belittle people they will respond, and those responses aren't going to be pleasant.
You're not stupid moonie, but you're badly misguided if believe that you're really enlightening anyone.

I only offer you the truth as I see it. What you do with it has no effect on me. I already suffered. The fleas and ticks are of no matter to me. You feel belittled and demeaned and that comes from you, not me. You will only continue like that because you don't want to see it. So be it.
 

Greenman

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Imagine an all Republican President, House and Senate. Add to that an all Republican Supreme Court. All of America's progress would be vaporized. We would go back about 200 years. Our country would be plagued with unemployment, foreign wars, and discrimination. Homophobia and poverty would be at an all time high. Our public education system would be in shambles. We would be in a police state. By law, a bible would have to be present in every home. Fox news would be the only news source left.

Does that sound like progress? :(

Wild ass speculation presented as fact. This belongs on Facebook.
 

Greenman

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I only offer you the truth as I see it. What you do with it has no effect on me. I already suffered. The fleas and ticks are of no matter to me. You feel belittled and demeaned and that comes from you, not me. You will only continue like that because you don't want to see it. So be it.

I'll accept that.
I suppose this concludes our dialog for now. Thanks for participating.