Some questions about TT Tsunami

DyslexicHobo

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I've been looking into buying the ThermalTake Tsunami, and read some reviews on it. They all seemed to say that it was a wonderful case and ranked it a 9-10/10. But I've been browsing the forum and it seems like everyone (but the people that own it) hates it. Is it really that bad of a case, or do people dislike it just because it's loud?

How does it compare in loudness to an Antec Sonata? I have that case now, it's super quiet, but I need something to compare the Tsunami's noise level to.
I love my Sonata, but it's just too heavy to carry to LAN parties, and I really want a case with a side window.
 

Waylay00

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Not everyone hates it.....It's just that some people here don't like the looks of many Thermaltake products (I agree that some are a little too flashy). It's a great case as I'm sure many others would tell you. There is a lot of fanboyism here, especially between case brands. With that said, it's a great case. The looks are in the eye of the beholder.
 

DyslexicHobo

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The CoolerMaster WaveMaster looks really nice, and seems like a great case. I really want a side window though.

Maybe I'll just end up getting the CoolerMaster, then putting my own side window in...
 

drpootums

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the Tsunami has better airflow though (compared to the wavemaster). The looks are awsome (paintjob A+++) and noise isnt really all that bad. I'm typing right now with it sitting 2 1/2 feet away from my head and it isnt bad at all. If you want it quieter, than dont buy the BFG 6800gt like i did (had the leadtek, but it went bad and newegg didnt have a replacement for it so BFG it was).

All in all, very nice!
 

DyslexicHobo

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Ok, well I've decided that if I do get a new case, I'm definitely getting the black Tsunami with side window. Thanks for the input.
 

slash196

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Good choice. There are a lot of haters out there, but the Tsunami is one of the prettiest cases out there. Tool-less installation can't hurt either :)
 

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I really don't like Thermaltake - from what I understand they're hit and miss - some people get a product from them that is outstanding, while others get the same product and put it to the same use, and it craps out on them. I just can't deal with unreliability.


Go with something by Cooler Master or Antec for better cases in the same price range, or if you can spare some more cabbage, look at Lian-Li or Silverstone Technology.
 

Ken90630

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I'm by no means an all-knowing expert on cases, but my personal opinion is that Thermaltake ought to be sued for shamelessly ripping off Cooler Master and their Wave Master design. Now, if they went and talked to CM before building and selling the Tsunami, and CM gave them their blessing or licensed part of their design to them, I'll retract what I just said.

I simply have nothing but contempt for companies that profit from other people's creativity or intellectual property by stealing ideas and then representing the resulting product as their own, with no credit to the people who truly had the creativity. Where is the "thanks to Cooler Master for the design inspiration for our Tsunami case" message on their Web site? I don't see one. So the result is a lot of people seeing the Tsunami and thinking, "Wow, what a cool design. Very creative/innovative ...," when in fact there was no creativity on Thermaltake's part -- it was CM's. Sort of like people buying certain pop music and thinking the puppet artist wrote the lyrics or actually felt the emotions they're singing, when in fact it was some songwriter the artist has probably never even met that composed the song. And the artist recorded it 'cuz their manager said they could have a hit with it. (Can you say, "N'Sync" or "Backstreet Boys"?) It's misrepresentation and it's dishonest & unethical.

My feelings about the Tsunami are echoed by that other case that's a ridiculous ripoff of Apple's G5 design. (Can't remember who makes that one -- is it Lian Li?) I guess it's easy to sleep at night if you don't have a shred of ethics or a conscience and all you care about is greed. Buy their products? Not me.

Okay, rant over. Flame away, adolescent Thermaltake fanboys!
 

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Originally posted by: DyslexicHobo
I've been looking into buying the ThermalTake Tsunami, and read some reviews on it. They all seemed to say that it was a wonderful case and ranked it a 9-10/10. But I've been browsing the forum and it seems like everyone (but the people that own it) hates it. Is it really that bad of a case, or do people dislike it just because it's loud?

How does it compare in loudness to an Antec Sonata? I have that case now, it's super quiet, but I need something to compare the Tsunami's noise level to.
I love my Sonata, but it's just too heavy to carry to LAN parties, and I really want a case with a side window.

Its a good case with Great airflow. A lil on the loud side with stock TT fans but they are easily replaced with a fan of your choice. Very light (all aluminum) and a LOTTA room. Worth 99$ in my opinion.
 

LifeStealer

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Originally posted by: Ken90630
I'm by no means an all-knowing expert on cases, but my personal opinion is that Thermaltake ought to be sued for shamelessly ripping off Cooler Master and their Wave Master design. Now, if they went and talked to CM before building and selling the Tsunami, and CM gave them their blessing or licensed part of their design to them, I'll retract what I just said.

I simply have nothing but contempt for companies that profit from other people's creativity or intellectual property by stealing ideas and then representing the resulting product as their own, with no credit to the people who truly had the creativity. Where is the "thanks to Cooler Master for the design inspiration for our Tsunami case" message on their Web site? I don't see one. So the result is a lot of people seeing the Tsunami and thinking, "Wow, what a cool design. Very creative/innovative ...," when in fact there was no creativity on Thermaltake's part -- it was CM's. Sort of like people buying certain pop music and thinking the puppet artist wrote the lyrics or actually felt the emotions they're singing, when in fact it was some songwriter the artist has probably never even met that composed the song. And the artist recorded it 'cuz their manager said they could have a hit with it. (Can you say, "N'Sync" or "Backstreet Boys"?) It's misrepresentation and it's dishonest & unethical.

My feelings about the Tsunami are echoed by that other case that's a ridiculous ripoff of Apple's G5 design. (Can't remember who makes that one -- is it Lian Li?) I guess it's easy to sleep at night if you don't have a shred of ethics or a conscience and all you care about is greed. Buy their products? Not me.

Okay, rant over. Flame away, adolescent Thermaltake fanboys!


You're right Ken, someone should patent that 'ATX' design. I mean whats with all these different people building around it wanting my money? I want one option! Just one! I assume you run linux and don't use a mouse? Or lightbulbs? Hey how are you even on the internet?! Al Gore invented it! Pay the man!

*cough*

The only problem I have with the Tsunami and all Tt cases for that matter is no removable mobo tray. Of course they have lots of room to work around that but I would still like the tray.
 

Aries64

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The CoolerMaster WaveMaster looks really nice, and seems like a great case. I really want a side window though.
If you really like the WaveMaster YOU CAN get a couple of different side panels with plexiglass windows. You can get them direct from CoolerMaster or through other online retailers. They are probably less expensive if you don't buy direct from CoolerMaster.

Heres a link to the WaveMaster page on CoolerMaster's web site:

http://www.coolermaster.com/in...e=TAC-T01Wave%20Master

You can get the side panels in the "natural" silver colored brushed aluminum with a traditional square window with slightly tinted plexiglass or electric blue plexiglass. You can also get the side panel in black anodize with the tinted plexiglass window.

They also offer a side panel with the window in the shape of the "CoolerMaster" logo. With this window design "CoolerMaster is etched in the panel. Heres a link to the side panel page:

http://www.coolermaster.com/in...2&url_place=search

Click on numbers 6-10 to view the side panels.

Personally, I prefer clean lines myself, and dislike flashly, Star Wars-like cases. I own two silver WaveMasters' now, and just last night bought a silver Lian Li V1000. Awesome build-quality and design. Only thing I dislike about the case is it's lack of a Reset Switch. WTF! Like you NEVER want to do a Hard Reset? There is plenty of room under the Power Switch without cluttering-up the front panel. I might have to install one somewhere.

Anyway, from a cooling standpoint, IF YOU ARE GOING TO OVERCLOCK the WaveMaster is marginal. Its not terrible, but the the intake holes at th efront of the case for the (dual) 80mm fans are rather small. Also, the intake fans do not mount flat on the interior suface of the case, so there is ample "leakage" of the intake air (warm air within the case can be sucked-in by the fan instead of cool air from outside the case). There is only a single 80mm exhaust fan at the rear, but CoolerMaster provides a bracket to install an optional 80mm fan where the trapdoor mounted I/O panel on top is. I did this, but th emesh that the fan has to push the hot air through to expell it is rather fine, so this "blowhole" doesn't work as well as it could.

When my system is heated-up (after gaming for several hours) and the (four) 80mm fans are alll going they make a fair amount of noise. Not really load, but loud enough. I would hate to have this next to my bed if I were trying to sleep.

Take a close look at the Tsunami before you buy too. While it appears to have better cooling than the WaveMaster, there are better cases for cooling. Depending on what your budget (if any) is, you may want to look at the Lian Li V1000, V1100, or V1200. All are available in silver or black. The V1000 is $183.00 in Silver or $189.00 in Black at Monarch Computer.

http://www.monarchcomputer.com...mp;Product_Code=100073

Hope this helps.
 

DyslexicHobo

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Wow I've got a really tough decision now...

I have about $160, and some stuff that I can sell if I want a little extra cash. I like the Tsunami, and I've decided that I like it more than the WaveMaster. I love the paintjob, plus it's cheaper. I really need to conserve all the money I have until I get my job back in the summer.

Right now the only decision I have is whether to buy the Tsunami now, or wait until summer when I can go all out on a really nice Lian Li. Thanks for the help everyone. I think I might just flip a coin to decide or something.
 

Waylay00

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Originally posted by: Ken90630
I'm by no means an all-knowing expert on cases, but my personal opinion is that Thermaltake ought to be sued for shamelessly ripping off Cooler Master and their Wave Master design. Now, if they went and talked to CM before building and selling the Tsunami, and CM gave them their blessing or licensed part of their design to them, I'll retract what I just said.

I simply have nothing but contempt for companies that profit from other people's creativity or intellectual property by stealing ideas and then representing the resulting product as their own, with no credit to the people who truly had the creativity. Where is the "thanks to Cooler Master for the design inspiration for our Tsunami case" message on their Web site? I don't see one. So the result is a lot of people seeing the Tsunami and thinking, "Wow, what a cool design. Very creative/innovative ...," when in fact there was no creativity on Thermaltake's part -- it was CM's. Sort of like people buying certain pop music and thinking the puppet artist wrote the lyrics or actually felt the emotions they're singing, when in fact it was some songwriter the artist has probably never even met that composed the song. And the artist recorded it 'cuz their manager said they could have a hit with it. (Can you say, "N'Sync" or "Backstreet Boys"?) It's misrepresentation and it's dishonest & unethical.

My feelings about the Tsunami are echoed by that other case that's a ridiculous ripoff of Apple's G5 design. (Can't remember who makes that one -- is it Lian Li?) I guess it's easy to sleep at night if you don't have a shred of ethics or a conscience and all you care about is greed. Buy their products? Not me.

Okay, rant over. Flame away, adolescent Thermaltake fanboys!

You can say that about anything! How come no one rants about Kingwin and how their case (KT-424) looks exactly like a PC-65? Or how Chieftec copied Antec? How can you say that about the TT Tsunami? I agree that the wavy front panels are kind of like the Wavemaster but come on, it doesn't look that much like it. There are many cases with wavy front panels. Hey, Raidmax made a case that looks like Alienware's case, but I don't see anybody b**ching about that? Come on man, give me a break.
 

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antec superlanboy > tt's tsunami

my friend has the tsunami...they are very similar cases but little things about his just turned me off compared to my antec. The hard drive bay is turned a different direction that makes getting them in/out more troublesome, the X side window is a little audacious...I like the usb/headphone inputs on the front of my antec but they sit on top of the tsunami and other little things all over.

With that said, i do like that the tsunami has an aluminum front door as opposed to the plastic on my antec...but that just makes it heavier.
 

LifeStealer

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I believe thats the first time I've heard someone prefer plastic over aluminum. Take them off and weigh them I'd like to see wich one is heavier but I know the aluminum is more durable.

Personally though, I think the superlanboy is hideous. Antec needs to bring out some new cases :(
 

drpootums

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Originally posted by: Ken90630
I'm by no means an all-knowing expert on cases, but my personal opinion is that Thermaltake ought to be sued for shamelessly ripping off Cooler Master and their Wave Master design. Now, if they went and talked to CM before building and selling the Tsunami, and CM gave them their blessing or licensed part of their design to them, I'll retract what I just said.

I simply have nothing but contempt for companies that profit from other people's creativity or intellectual property by stealing ideas and then representing the resulting product as their own, with no credit to the people who truly had the creativity. Where is the "thanks to Cooler Master for the design inspiration for our Tsunami case" message on their Web site? I don't see one. So the result is a lot of people seeing the Tsunami and thinking, "Wow, what a cool design. Very creative/innovative ...," when in fact there was no creativity on Thermaltake's part -- it was CM's. Sort of like people buying certain pop music and thinking the puppet artist wrote the lyrics or actually felt the emotions they're singing, when in fact it was some songwriter the artist has probably never even met that composed the song. And the artist recorded it 'cuz their manager said they could have a hit with it. (Can you say, "N'Sync" or "Backstreet Boys"?) It's misrepresentation and it's dishonest & unethical.

My feelings about the Tsunami are echoed by that other case that's a ridiculous ripoff of Apple's G5 design. (Can't remember who makes that one -- is it Lian Li?) I guess it's easy to sleep at night if you don't have a shred of ethics or a conscience and all you care about is greed. Buy their products? Not me.

Okay, rant over. Flame away, adolescent Thermaltake fanboys!

Personally, i think the TT Tsunami is a lot nicer looking than the Wavemaster. I've seen both close up and the Tsunami is more than "a cheap ripoff of the Wavemaster" IMO, the paintjob, stock window, nice airflow, and LED fan (not too bright, just fine lighting IMO) are great bonuses at more than $40 cheaper (if u decide to go with a window for the WM) price than the WM.

Personally, i'm glad i went with this, and i'm not going to lose sleep thinking that the company that made my case got their inspireation from another company. Did they patent the design? Is it "illegal" for TT to make something that looks similar? If they tried to copy it, then they did it while making many improvements over the origional.
 

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the coolermaster side panels are available thru newegg for 25-30 $, both clear and blue tint
 

rise

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gotta add, i love my cooler master praetorian brushed aluminum
 

Ken90630

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You're right Ken, someone should patent that 'ATX' design. I mean whats with all these different people building around it wanting my money? I want one option! Just one! I assume you run linux and don't use a mouse? Or lightbulbs? Hey how are you even on the internet?! Al Gore invented it! Pay the man!
I knew someone would say this, and it didn't take long. C'mon ... some of you guys are so predictable! :D Surely you can think of a better defense than that, my friend. The point I was trying to make was that the TT Tsunami is not just another "ATX design" case -- it's a blatantly obvious ripoff of CM's Wave Master design -- period. If you're gonna tell me that TT had this case design on the drawing board, with plans to produce it, before the Wave Master hit the market, I'll say you're delusional. C'mon, you know what happened: They saw the WaveMaster and said, "Oooooh, people are buying a ton of these, it looks way cool, so let's rip off the design and sell it as our own creation. We'll change it up just enough to avoid litigation, and so we can claim that "it's not 100% identical" and offer a ridiculous denial that people like LifeStealer will accept, and cha-ching! The money will flow in, we won't have to acknowledge any inspiration whatsoever from the CM design, and we won't share a dime of the profits with Cooler Master and the people who really came up with the design."

Yeah, you should feel real good about giving these people your money. They deserve to be rewarded for their laughably transparent dishonesty. :roll: If you were the person that designed the Wave Master, I guarantee you would have a different opinion about someone stealing your ideas & creativity & not giving you a dime. This reminds me of Vanilla Ice stealing the distinctive bass line, note for note, from Queen's "Under Pressure" to use for his "Ice Ice Baby" drivel, then simply adding one note to it and ADAMANTLY claiming HE wrote the whole song. What a lying idiot. (Hmmm ... maybe he went to work for Thermaltake?) :laugh:

The issue here is the very distinctive look of the WaveMaster. It has a very unique design for a computer case. So, obviously, does most of Apple's equipment. There are zillions of "ATX design" cases out there and NONE of them looks laughably similar to the distinctive WaveMaster -- except one! Yet, strangely :shocked:, they are ALL still "ATX designs." Hmmm ... how can that possibly be? Surely an ATX is an ATX, right? News flash: ATX is a design specification, not a style. It's the ripoff of the WaveMaster's style that I object to, and that has nothing to do with case specifications. Ditto that Lian Li blatant ripoff of the G5 (that, incidentally, many people besides me noticed and complained about too).

And I'm not even gonna dignify that laughable Al Gore assertion with a response. :D

You can say that about anything! How come no one rants about Kingwin and how their case (KT-424) looks exactly like a PC-65? Or how Chieftec copied Antec? How can you say that about the TT Tsunami? I agree that the wavy front panels are kind of like the Wavemaster but come on, it doesn't look that much like it.
No, you can't "say that about anything." I don't say the Toyota Camry is a ripoff of a Porsche 911. I don't say a Dodge RAM truck is a ripoff of a Toyota Tundra. Why? They're all vehicles, but they didn't rip off EXACT designs & styling from a competitor, make a minor change or two, & then present their vehicle as their own design. As for your Kingwin, PC-65, Chieftec and Antec remarks, you may be right there. If these companies did just produce a shameless copy (for all intents & purposes) of a competitor, why shouldn't their feet be held to the fire? Shouldn't they be scorned? I think they should. (Unless, of course, they have licensing agreements with each other.) As for your remark that, "the wavy front panels are kind of like the Wavemaster, but ... it doesn't look that much like it." Uh, I don't know what to say there. "Kind of like the Wavemaster"? Pleeeeze! TT wasn't going to produce the Tsunami before they saw the WaveMaster -- they decided to produce the Tsunami AFTER seeing the WaveMaster and deciding to rip off its design. They even copied the top-mounted port and spring loaded cover -- but, oh, aren't they clever? Instead of a perfectly square cover like the WaveMaster's, they curved its shape a little. Well, that's good enough -- it's TOTALLY different and the idea was completely their own! How clever. How ingenious. Give ME a break! If you believe the folks at TT had no intention whatsoever of making a case that looked like a WaveMaster, I've got some beachfront property in Iraq I'd like to sell you. (If TT hasn't sold you some already. :D )

There are many cases with wavy front panels.
I challenge you to name 5 of the "many." (Excluding the WaveMaster, Tsunami, or anything by Apple.)

I don't mean any offense to you guys. Obviously you can buy whatever equipment you want. I just wanted to encourage some thought about who we all support. After all, the companies that get the most support (via our dollars and positive word of mouth) will be the ones that survive and thrive best in the marketplace. And they're the ones we'll get our future equipment from. I personally would rather see the honest, ethical, and truly creative companies thrive & survive more than the ripoff artists. They're the ones that have the quality personnel that are gonna give us the best equipment and the best service (and keep the industry healthy). Everytime you give your money to a ripoff artist, you're encouraging their behavior. But to each his own, I guess. :) (And yeah, I know it's a big world and there's room for lots of companies. Pleeeeze .... don't even go there ....)

Okay, I've had my little rant and I'm done with this topic. Happy New Year!

:D
 

LifeStealer

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Originally posted by: Ken90630
You're right Ken, someone should patent that 'ATX' design. I mean whats with all these different people building around it wanting my money? I want one option! Just one! I assume you run linux and don't use a mouse? Or lightbulbs? Hey how are you even on the internet?! Al Gore invented it! Pay the man!
I knew someone would say this, and it didn't take long. C'mon ... some of you guys are so predictable! :D Surely you can think of a better defense than that, my friend. The point I was trying to make was that the TT Tsunami is not just another "ATX design" case -- it's a blatantly obvious ripoff of CM's Wave Master design -- period. If you're gonna tell me that TT had this case design on the drawing board, with plans to produce it, before the Wave Master hit the market, I'll say you're delusional. C'mon, you know what happened: They saw the WaveMaster and said, "Oooooh, people are buying a ton of these, it looks way cool, so let's rip off the design and sell it as our own creation. We'll change it up just enough to avoid litigation, and so we can claim that "it's not 100% identical" and offer a ridiculous denial that people like LifeStealer will accept, and cha-ching! The money will flow in, we won't have to acknowledge any inspiration whatsoever from the CM design, and we won't share a dime of the profits with Cooler Master and the people who really came up with the design."

Yeah, you should feel real good about giving these people your money. They deserve to be rewarded for their laughably transparent dishonesty. :roll: If you were the person that designed the Wave Master, I guarantee you would have a different opinion about someone stealing your ideas & creativity & not giving you a dime. This reminds me of Vanilla Ice stealing the distinctive bass line, note for note, from Queen's "Under Pressure" to use for his "Ice Ice Baby" drivel, then simply adding one note to it and ADAMANTLY claiming HE wrote the whole song. What a lying idiot. (Hmmm ... maybe he went to work for Thermaltake?) :laugh:

The issue here is the very distinctive look of the WaveMaster. It has a very unique design for a computer case. So, obviously, does most of Apple's equipment. There are zillions of "ATX design" cases out there and NONE of them looks laughably similar to the distinctive WaveMaster -- except one! Yet, strangely :shocked:, they are ALL still "ATX designs." Hmmm ... how can that possibly be? Surely an ATX is an ATX, right? News flash: ATX is a design specification, not a style. It's the ripoff of the WaveMaster's style that I object to, and that has nothing to do with case specifications. Ditto that Lian Li blatant ripoff of the G5 (that, incidentally, many people besides me noticed and complained about too).

And I'm not even gonna dignify that laughable Al Gore assertion with a response. :D

You can say that about anything! How come no one rants about Kingwin and how their case (KT-424) looks exactly like a PC-65? Or how Chieftec copied Antec? How can you say that about the TT Tsunami? I agree that the wavy front panels are kind of like the Wavemaster but come on, it doesn't look that much like it.
No, you can't "say that about anything." I don't say the Toyota Camry is a ripoff of a Porsche 911. I don't say a Dodge RAM truck is a ripoff of a Toyota Tundra. Why? They're all vehicles, but they didn't rip off EXACT designs & styling from a competitor, make a minor change or two, & then present their vehicle as their own design. As for your Kingwin, PC-65, Chieftec and Antec remarks, you may be right there. If these companies did just produce a shameless copy (for all intents & purposes) of a competitor, why shouldn't their feet be held to the fire? Shouldn't they be scorned? I think they should. (Unless, of course, they have licensing agreements with each other.) As for your remark that, "the wavy front panels are kind of like the Wavemaster, but ... it doesn't look that much like it." Uh, I don't know what to say there. "Kind of like the Wavemaster"? Pleeeeze! TT wasn't going to produce the Tsunami before they saw the WaveMaster -- they decided to produce the Tsunami AFTER seeing the WaveMaster and deciding to rip off its design. They even copied the top-mounted port and spring loaded cover -- but, oh, aren't they clever? Instead of a perfectly square cover like the WaveMaster's, they curved its shape a little. Well, that's good enough -- it's TOTALLY different and the idea was completely their own! How clever. How ingenious. Give ME a break! If you believe the folks at TT had no intention whatsoever of making a case that looked like a WaveMaster, I've got some beachfront property in Iraq I'd like to sell you. (If TT hasn't sold you some already. :D )

There are many cases with wavy front panels.
I challenge you to name 5 of the "many." (Excluding the WaveMaster, Tsunami, or anything by Apple.)

I don't mean any offense to you guys. Obviously you can buy whatever equipment you want. I just wanted to encourage some thought about who we all support. After all, the companies that get the most support (via our dollars and positive word of mouth) will be the ones that survive and thrive best in the marketplace. And they're the ones we'll get our future equipment from. I personally would rather see the honest, ethical, and truly creative companies thrive & survive more than the ripoff artists. They're the ones that have the quality personnel that are gonna give us the best equipment and the best service (and keep the industry healthy). Everytime you give your money to a ripoff artist, you're encouraging their behavior. But to each his own, I guess. :) (And yeah, I know it's a big world and there's room for lots of companies. Pleeeeze .... don't even go there ....)

Okay, I've had my little rant and I'm done with this topic. Happy New Year!

:D


Wonder who copied who for this one o_O
http://www.newegg.com/app/view...=11-163-029&DEPA=1

Ken its a box. I don't understand how that little wave makes such a huge difference. Inside the tsunami is a better case compared to the wavemaster. Have you ever owned a thermaltake case? The tsunami does look like the wavemaster, I don't have a problem with it. I don't really like either one. At least it resembles something that looks good as opposed to the super lan boy. Why do people buy that? Its horrible looking. Why people why? While we're on the subject of ugly cases, the Tt shark is ugly too. If you don't want people ripping off cases then make ugly ones! Thats the solution!

Oh and the Al Gore line was funny.
 

Ken90630

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Wonder who copied who for this one o_O
Good question. The WaveMaster has been out for a couple years now, so I guess it depens on when this case came out. Maybe Silverstone saw the WM or the Tsunami and said, "Hmmm ...." :) Who knows who saw what case first and .... Heck, I don't know. The nerve of some of these companies just rubs me the wrong way, 'cuz if I was making products, I wouldn't even think of putting out a product that looks startingly similar to a particular competitor's product and then calling it my own. The debate, of course, is how similar it looks and whether or not their intent can be discerned with a high degree of accuracy. That, of course, is prolly not really provable, so .... No biggie. The world keeps turning. :D

Ken its a box. I don't understand how that little wave makes such a huge difference. Inside the tsunami is a better case compared to the wavemaster. Have you ever owned a thermaltake case? The tsunami does look like the wavemaster, I don't have a problem with it. I don't really like either one. At least it resembles something that looks good as opposed to the super lan boy. Why do people buy that? Its horrible looking. Why people why? While we're on the subject of ugly cases, the Tt shark is ugly too. If you don't want people ripping off cases then make ugly ones! Thats the solution!

It's not actually the wave that makes a difference, 'cuz that's not the issue in my mind. The merits (or lack thereof) of the individual cases themselves are not really the issue to me. The whole issue, and point of my original post, was Thermaltake's intent in creating the Tsunami. Their intent, in my opinion, was to ripoff CM's Wave Master design and present it as their own (albeit with just enough of a change, probably, to avoid litigation). The similarities are not a coincidence -- they're intentional, they're not acknowledged, and that's what I object to. I'm not mad at the case -- I'm mad at TT! Inside, the Tsunami may be a better case. I don't know, 'cuz I don't own a Tsunami (nor have I ever seen one in person). And no, I've never owned a TT case, nor will I ever, for the reasons I outlined in my previous post. I don't like their reputation in general, as a company, and to be honest, most of their cases are the most God-awfully ugly things I've ever seen. People call 'em "Thermaltacky" for a reason! :D But, looks are subjective and that's just my opinion. (And the Tsunami is probably the best looking case they've ever made. How ironic is it that that occurs with a case essentially designed by someone else? Ha ha.)

Truth be told, I personally find about 95% of the computer cases on the market to be ugly, unimaginative, and often poorly constructed. And just whose idea was it, back in the day, to make cases and optical drives in beige?! BEIGE?!!! Could there be a more boring, lifeless, uninspiring color? Good grief. "Beige boxes" indeed. It would not be that hard to make a 'perfect' case (not hard for a case manufacturer), yet no one has really done it. The Antec Sonata has many attributes, as does the Wave Master, and there are maybe a handful or two of other decent cases out there, but all seem to have weaknesses that could easily be corrected. Yeah, it would add to the price, but they could at least make a "deluxe" model for people who want (and can afford) a "perfect" case (or close to it anyway).

And yeah, the idea that Al Gore "invented the Internet" is pretty comical. BTW, did you know I invented computers? :laugh:
 

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I think if anyone should feel anything against the Tsunami it should be the modding community. All case companies get ideas from the modding community. They are the people fueling new case designs. They're the people that got companies like cooler master off the ground. Its because of them we aren't using beige cases now.

I like my Tt v1000, with a few mods to the front its a nice case (Just need to figure out what to do with the side intake fan holder). Its built around the chenming like most cases during that time frame, but its a well build, well painted, well thought out case and I love it. I'll admit Tt does better in the heatsink and fan controll area (Although I do have a Tt PSU in a backup pc that is solid as a rock) but they also put time into their cases too, thats what I pay for. Frankly if Tt did rip off cooler master then I'm glad they did it, I think cooler master charges way to much for their cases and needs some competition. Lian-li though, I've never really cared for that industrialized look high priced market but looks like they've done some apple buying.

As long as Tt keeps making a high quality case I'll keep buying them. But I will say that this kind of competition keeps things fresh. The wavemaster has been out for a while now and hopefully this has cooler master on their toes designing an even better case.