Avoid knives that call themselves "Japanese chef knife," or say they're made with "Japanese steel." Those are almost always a dead giveaway for a Chinese company trying to pass its goods off as Japanese in origin.
The first one you listed is difficult to find, but I strongly suspect it's Chinese made.
The second one, however, is easy to find as Chinese:
Dishware; Jugs; Bottle openers, electric and non-electric; Cooking pots; Cutting boards for the kitchen; Hand-operated salt mills; Kitchen utensil crocks; Pressure cookers, non-electric; Tea services in the nature of tableware; Wine glasses
trademarks.justia.com
There are some very good quality Japanese cutlery brands that won't break the bank.
Tojiro
Mac
Shun (classic is the best entry-level stuff)