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I bet those militias were a lot less pompous about their duties too. They did it because they were proud to defend their nation, not because they expected the rest of the country to look up to them and give them anything they want.

There is literally no argument you can make that justifies the "I am/was a solider, you should do this for me" attitude. It is extremely pathetic.
 
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Consider this:

People sleep peaceably in their beds at night
only because rough men stand ready to do
violence on their behalf.
George Orwell


I've been around a LOT of Marines in my life. I served 4 years myself. My son served 8, including 2 tours in Kuwait & Iraq.
Yes, some can be complete dickheads, but others are the finest human beings you'll ever meet.
When my son and his heavy helicopter squadron came home from Iraq after their first deployment, there were several who either had no homes to go to on that first Thanksgiving back, or had no money with which to make the trip.
We asked our son to extend the invitation for Thanksgiving dinner/weekend to any who wanted to get away from the barracks.
He ended up bringing 8 or 9 other Marines home with him. (we live about 400 miles from San Diego where they were stationed and they drove up in 3 cars.) Granted, we didn't have beds for most of them, but my offer to pay for a couple of hotel rooms went untaken. They said that if we didn't mind, they'd prefer to stay at our house.
They slept on couches, the floors, anywhere they could find enough room to stretch out. It was wall-to-wall Marines!
For dinner, my wife (and I) prepared a 25 lb turkey, 2 large hams, one large beef roast, 20 pounds of mashed potatos, nearly as many sweet potatos, a HUGE "glorified rice" salad, 3 or 4 "green bean caseroles", 3 pans of stuffing, 8 pies, including pumpkin, apple, coconut & banana cream, and blueberry, (to one guy's great surprise, "Goodness Mrs. Boomer, that there's an "upside-down pineapple cake! How'd you know that was my favorite thing in the world?" and more.
I had 2 cases of beer, several 1.75l jugs of assorted hard liquor, 3 or 4 cases of soda.

When the weekend was over, the food was totally wiped out, the pies were gone, and the soda was gone.
They drank less than a 6-pack of beer and NO hard liquor. (gotta say, I was stunned by this!)

These guys were as polite as any men I've ever met. Each was humbled by the fact that we were willing to take in men (boys to my wife & I) we didn't know, feed them, house them, and treat them like they were family.
My wife & I felt it was the least we could do for these guys after they spent 8 months in the desert.
These fellows were in the first waves into Kuwait & Iraq, so all the current infrastructure that supports our troops over there now, wasn't in place.
They didn't have internet access, or cell phones, very few opportunities for showers on regular intervals, and the food was often only MRE's for days or weeks at a time.
They were happy as hell to have home-cooked food for the first time in nearly a year.
As they left, each one hugged my wife and thanked us for allowing them to be part of the family for the weekend.
To our great surprise, the following week, we got a phone call from their squadron commander. He had heard about what we did and called to thank us personally. He remembered that we had sent "care packages," not only to our son, but to the entire squadron while they were deployed, and thanked us again for that.

So, after all this long rant, Marines are Marines, and like every other group you'll encounter, there are good ones and bad, nice ones and assholes, honest ones and crooks, but in the end, they're still Marines, ready to go to war to protect our freedom, where ever the threat may be.
(in spite of how much I'm against the current war, the troops are still fine young men & women, and are deserving of our support.)


Semper Fi.

My respect for BoomerD just hit the roof and exploded the chimney.

OP phails though. :thumbsdown:
 
Originally posted by: TehMac
My respect for BoomerD just hit the roof and exploded the chimney.

OP phails though. :thumbsdown:

I never said I disrespected the armed forces. I said they were rude. Completely different things . . .
 
The military is so desperate for people today, anyone can join the military and it practically takes a death to be kicked out now. The number of people they need in the military and the number volunteering are too far out of line, what is worst is that people in there now are mostly desperate to get out. 🙁 The military is really fucked now, because of the occupation of Iraq.
 
Originally posted by: Deeko
I bet those militias were a lot less pompous about their duties too. They did it because they were proud to defend their nation, not because they expected the rest of the country to look up to them and give them anything they want.

There is literally no argument you can make that justifies the "I am/was a solider, you should do this for me" attitude. It is extremely pathetic.

I wasn't justifying that attitude, my brother just got back from Iraq and if he got that attitude with me I would punch him in the gut. Real soldiers do serve their country, but the attitude conveyed by saying they serve citizens is implying like they owe US something. It's the same bs attitude taken to the other extreme.
 
Originally posted by: thepd7
Originally posted by: Deeko
I bet those militias were a lot less pompous about their duties too. They did it because they were proud to defend their nation, not because they expected the rest of the country to look up to them and give them anything they want.

There is literally no argument you can make that justifies the "I am/was a solider, you should do this for me" attitude. It is extremely pathetic.

I wasn't justifying that attitude, my brother just got back from Iraq and if he got that attitude with me I would punch him in the gut. Real soldiers do serve their country, but the attitude conveyed by saying they serve citizens is implying like they owe US something. It's the same bs attitude taken to the other extreme.

See....I think you're misinterpreting. No one here is saying YOU ARE SOLDIER, DO MY BIDDING. The problem is, certain current/former soldiers have a very elitist attitude, and the point is as was pointed out earlier - soliders exist to protect America, America doesn't exist to pay homage to its soliders.
 
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: thepd7
Originally posted by: Deeko
I bet those militias were a lot less pompous about their duties too. They did it because they were proud to defend their nation, not because they expected the rest of the country to look up to them and give them anything they want.

There is literally no argument you can make that justifies the "I am/was a solider, you should do this for me" attitude. It is extremely pathetic.

I wasn't justifying that attitude, my brother just got back from Iraq and if he got that attitude with me I would punch him in the gut. Real soldiers do serve their country, but the attitude conveyed by saying they serve citizens is implying like they owe US something. It's the same bs attitude taken to the other extreme.

See....I think you're misinterpreting. No one here is saying YOU ARE SOLDIER, DO MY BIDDING. The problem is, certain current/former soldiers have a very elitist attitude, and the point is as was pointed out earlier - soliders exist to protect America, America doesn't exist to pay homage to its soliders.

Yes that IS the attitude I got from this post:


Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: NightDarker
"Are you kidding me? I served so many blah blah years and you can't even help me? Ya'll need to get your stuff together down here!"

I have no problems with the marines in general, but I despise anyone that uses this in regular conversation. Awful mentality to have.

Our armed forces seem to have forgotten that they serve the "civvies", not the other way around.

IMO, you have no business being a soldier if you cannot remember this simple fact. Civilians are what you fight to protect. Civilians are whose tax dollars go to pay you. Civilians are the entire reason you exist.


And you are still generalizing all current/former soldiers. You might know 20 more former soldiers and just not know it becuase they DON'T flaunt it.

I mean, I don't say all ATers are (insert fun word here)s because Casiotech, Alkemyst, and Zap Brannigan are on here.
 
I'm not generalizing at all. I was the 2nd person to reply to this thread, did you miss that? Yea, it's ok, easy to ignore the obvious when it fits your point better. You should be a politician.
 
Originally posted by: Deeko
I'm not generalizing at all. I was the 2nd person to reply to this thread, did you miss that? Yea, it's ok, easy to ignore the obvious when it fits your point better. You should be a politician.

fair enough, I did miss the "certain" in this post when I read it the first time.


Originally posted by: Deeko

See....I think you're misinterpreting. No one here is saying YOU ARE SOLDIER, DO MY BIDDING. The problem is, certain current/former soldiers have a very elitist attitude, and the point is as was pointed out earlier - soliders exist to protect America, America doesn't exist to pay homage to its soliders.


Now stop PMing me love letters.
 
if I PM'ed you a love letter, it think you'd go into a coma for the next 6 months, son.

I was responding to your post, and even in your second quoted post that was supposed to incriminate me, I very clearly said "certain", meaning, there are those that have an issue with their attitude. Not all. But it was a valient effort. Here's a tip - in September, leave the backing of the Cowboys up to me in NFL threads. Thanks.
 
Originally posted by: rasczak
Originally posted by: CasioTech
well, the things is, the marines are all incompetent muscle heads with a napolean/adonis complex.

just like the MDPD.

Just when I thought you couldn't say anything more stupid than

Originally posted by: CasioTech
when you get hit by lighting, wouldn't you explode? that article is bs.

Jesus man, I thought Zane was the resident dolt, but you sir are very close to taking the cake.

As for the OP's comment, I rarely come across a Marine who was a jerk as you might say. Most have been fairly nice and polite with the occasional ass who thinks the world owes him a blow job.

lol. I had no idea.

Back on topic though, I have met several marines and they all seem to be nice guys.

I can make a generalization about all forum members too based off of me:
All forum members are own lambos and baseball teams and date Pamela Anderson and Carmon Electra at the same time.

or also by observing Casio I could generalize all forum members are idiots.
 
I killed a Marine tonight using only a plastic spork and my bare hands. Lean, mean killing machine my ass! I met him in West Hollywood, and I'm selling his organs on Craig's List.

He seemed like a pretty nice guy.
 
Originally posted by: thepd7
Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: NightDarker
"Are you kidding me? I served so many blah blah years and you can't even help me? Ya'll need to get your stuff together down here!"

I have no problems with the marines in general, but I despise anyone that uses this in regular conversation. Awful mentality to have.

Our armed forces seem to have forgotten that they serve the "civvies", not the other way around.

IMO, you have no business being a soldier if you cannot remember this simple fact. Civilians are what you fight to protect. Civilians are whose tax dollars go to pay you. Civilians are the entire reason you exist.

Wow you couldn't be more wrong. Armed forces serve our country not our citizens. There is a difference. Civilians are not the reason the armed forces exists, liberty is.

QFT. Well said. /thread
 
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: Steve
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Seriously though, if you are an asshole going into the Marine Corps, you'll be an asshole still. If you aren't, chances are that you won't be. Simple as that.

I'm glad you posted in this thread. You went to boot camp out in San Diego, you came back and you were still your fun-loving, enjoyable self.

See? Here's living proof...went in an asshole, came out...Dainbramaged! 😀

Consider this:

People sleep peaceably in their beds at night
only because rough men stand ready to do
violence on their behalf.
George Orwell


I've been around a LOT of Marines in my life. I served 4 years myself. My son served 8, including 2 tours in Kuwait & Iraq.
Yes, some can be complete dickheads, but others are the finest human beings you'll ever meet.
When my son and his heavy helicopter squadron came home from Iraq after their first deployment, there were several who either had no homes to go to on that first Thanksgiving back, or had no money with which to make the trip.
We asked our son to extend the invitation for Thanksgiving dinner/weekend to any who wanted to get away from the barracks.
He ended up bringing 8 or 9 other Marines home with him. (we live about 400 miles from San Diego where they were stationed and they drove up in 3 cars.) Granted, we didn't have beds for most of them, but my offer to pay for a couple of hotel rooms went untaken. They said that if we didn't mind, they'd prefer to stay at our house.
They slept on couches, the floors, anywhere they could find enough room to stretch out. It was wall-to-wall Marines!
For dinner, my wife (and I) prepared a 25 lb turkey, 2 large hams, one large beef roast, 20 pounds of mashed potatos, nearly as many sweet potatos, a HUGE "glorified rice" salad, 3 or 4 "green bean caseroles", 3 pans of stuffing, 8 pies, including pumpkin, apple, coconut & banana cream, and blueberry, (to one guy's great surprise, "Goodness Mrs. Boomer, that there's an "upside-down pineapple cake! How'd you know that was my favorite thing in the world?" and more.
I had 2 cases of beer, several 1.75l jugs of assorted hard liquor, 3 or 4 cases of soda.

When the weekend was over, the food was totally wiped out, the pies were gone, and the soda was gone.
They drank less than a 6-pack of beer and NO hard liquor. (gotta say, I was stunned by this!)

These guys were as polite as any men I've ever met. Each was humbled by the fact that we were willing to take in men (boys to my wife & I) we didn't know, feed them, house them, and treat them like they were family.
My wife & I felt it was the least we could do for these guys after they spent 8 months in the desert.
These fellows were in the first waves into Kuwait & Iraq, so all the current infrastructure that supports our troops over there now, wasn't in place.
They didn't have internet access, or cell phones, very few opportunities for showers on regular intervals, and the food was often only MRE's for days or weeks at a time.
They were happy as hell to have home-cooked food for the first time in nearly a year.
As they left, each one hugged my wife and thanked us for allowing them to be part of the family for the weekend.
To our great surprise, the following week, we got a phone call from their squadron commander. He had heard about what we did and called to thank us personally. He remembered that we had sent "care packages," not only to our son, but to the entire squadron while they were deployed, and thanked us again for that.

So, after all this long rant, Marines are Marines, and like every other group you'll encounter, there are good ones and bad, nice ones and assholes, honest ones and crooks, but in the end, they're still Marines, ready to go to war to protect our freedom, where ever the threat may be.
(in spite of how much I'm against the current war, the troops are still fine young men & women, and are deserving of our support.)


Semper Fi.

**tear** BoomerD, you have just earned my utmost respect.
 
i think what you have seen is much more the exception than it is the rule. And your buddy that just got out of his basic training I can assume he is a young 18-something that just got brainwashed for 13 weeks. Right now he thinks the USMC is life and nothing else matters.

I have been in the military for 8 years now and I rarely run into a rude servicemember. One thing to keep in mind as well is most servicemembers are extremely assertive and direct. That is how we are trained and its how the job gets done. This could possibly be misinterpreted as being rude I suppose if someone were to take it the wrong way.
 
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: Steve
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Seriously though, if you are an asshole going into the Marine Corps, you'll be an asshole still. If you aren't, chances are that you won't be. Simple as that.

I'm glad you posted in this thread. You went to boot camp out in San Diego, you came back and you were still your fun-loving, enjoyable self.

See? Here's living proof...went in an asshole, came out...Dainbramaged! 😀

Consider this:

People sleep peaceably in their beds at night
only because rough men stand ready to do
violence on their behalf.
George Orwell


I've been around a LOT of Marines in my life. I served 4 years myself. My son served 8, including 2 tours in Kuwait & Iraq.
Yes, some can be complete dickheads, but others are the finest human beings you'll ever meet.
When my son and his heavy helicopter squadron came home from Iraq after their first deployment, there were several who either had no homes to go to on that first Thanksgiving back, or had no money with which to make the trip.
We asked our son to extend the invitation for Thanksgiving dinner/weekend to any who wanted to get away from the barracks.
He ended up bringing 8 or 9 other Marines home with him. (we live about 400 miles from San Diego where they were stationed and they drove up in 3 cars.) Granted, we didn't have beds for most of them, but my offer to pay for a couple of hotel rooms went untaken. They said that if we didn't mind, they'd prefer to stay at our house.
They slept on couches, the floors, anywhere they could find enough room to stretch out. It was wall-to-wall Marines!
For dinner, my wife (and I) prepared a 25 lb turkey, 2 large hams, one large beef roast, 20 pounds of mashed potatos, nearly as many sweet potatos, a HUGE "glorified rice" salad, 3 or 4 "green bean caseroles", 3 pans of stuffing, 8 pies, including pumpkin, apple, coconut & banana cream, and blueberry, (to one guy's great surprise, "Goodness Mrs. Boomer, that there's an "upside-down pineapple cake! How'd you know that was my favorite thing in the world?" and more.
I had 2 cases of beer, several 1.75l jugs of assorted hard liquor, 3 or 4 cases of soda.

When the weekend was over, the food was totally wiped out, the pies were gone, and the soda was gone.
They drank less than a 6-pack of beer and NO hard liquor. (gotta say, I was stunned by this!)

These guys were as polite as any men I've ever met. Each was humbled by the fact that we were willing to take in men (boys to my wife & I) we didn't know, feed them, house them, and treat them like they were family.
My wife & I felt it was the least we could do for these guys after they spent 8 months in the desert.
These fellows were in the first waves into Kuwait & Iraq, so all the current infrastructure that supports our troops over there now, wasn't in place.
They didn't have internet access, or cell phones, very few opportunities for showers on regular intervals, and the food was often only MRE's for days or weeks at a time.
They were happy as hell to have home-cooked food for the first time in nearly a year.
As they left, each one hugged my wife and thanked us for allowing them to be part of the family for the weekend.
To our great surprise, the following week, we got a phone call from their squadron commander. He had heard about what we did and called to thank us personally. He remembered that we had sent "care packages," not only to our son, but to the entire squadron while they were deployed, and thanked us again for that.

So, after all this long rant, Marines are Marines, and like every other group you'll encounter, there are good ones and bad, nice ones and assholes, honest ones and crooks, but in the end, they're still Marines, ready to go to war to protect our freedom, where ever the threat may be.
(in spite of how much I'm against the current war, the troops are still fine young men & women, and are deserving of our support.)


Semper Fi.

Damn Boomer, alot of what you post I disagree with, but you rock 🙂 :beer: :thumbsup:
 
i know most real soldiers have a decent attitude, but many of those stateside think they are John Rambo and shit.
 
Originally posted by: alkemyst
i know most real soldiers have a decent attitude, but many of those stateside think they are John Rambo and shit.

Maybe that's because some of them ARE John Rambo-types, and you just don't know it...😉
 
Originally posted by: BoomerD
We asked our son to extend the invitation for Thanksgiving dinner/weekend to any who wanted to get away from the barracks.
<edited to save space>
Semper Fi.

:thumbsup: Great thing you did there, sir. Thanks.
 
Originally posted by: Blunc
Originally posted by: NightDarker
You know, I've always held a lot of respect for those in any armed forces. I'm glad that people find their bliss in that career. But, I have a beef.

(snip)

Are you fucking kidding me? Give me a break. Just because you joined the marines, or any armed forces, doesn't make you any better than anyone else. I've met several people in the armed forces who are just as retarded as any civilian. Its a miracle they even made it through boot camp. He's training to do some special operations crap, but has to be in infantry first. I'm glad he's doing it, and hope he has fun. I still have respect for everyone in the military, but give me a break, don't have a God complex and be so condescending and rude.

"semper fi" and all that jazz...

if it wasn't for the Marines and other US armed forces you might be whining in german now instead of having the freedom to whine about your experience with soldiers in the USA.

IMHO serving or having served your country as a soldier just might make you a little better than a civilian that has not.

maybe the active and retired soldiers have a beef with whiney civilians that don't have their stuff together.

You are no better just because you have "served your country"

Hell, if that was the case, anyone who has donated their time to help the homeless or volunteer at a free clinic etc etc are better than the rest because they have served their country too. The millitary is NOT the only way you can serve your country

I'm not saying the armed forces dont deserve respect, I have a pretty long history of millitary service in my family (including a WW2 vet), but that doesnt make them any "better"
 
Originally posted by: NightDarker
Originally posted by: TehMac
My respect for BoomerD just hit the roof and exploded the chimney.

OP phails though. :thumbsdown:

I never said I disrespected the armed forces. I said they were rude. Completely different things . . .

...Care to reread that sentence and see where the phail is?
 
Originally posted by: ICRS
The military is so desperate for people today, anyone can join the military and it practically takes a death to be kicked out now. The number of people they need in the military and the number volunteering are too far out of line, what is worst is that people in there now are mostly desperate to get out. 🙁

You talk to a lot of servicemen, I take it?
 
BoomerD is teh win!

That's awesome of you and your wife.

I was in Saudi Arabia during the first Gulf war and a family of U.S. ex-pats opened up their home to some of the nearby Paratroops during Thanksgiving. Not only was the food and the green grass absolutely scrumptious, but they saved us from food poisoning that had occurred on our compound.

Watching my buddies running to a fetid latrine made with 55 gallon drums did make me recall the phrase, "A happy paratrooper is a paratrooper that sees another paratrooper just a little more miserable than he is."
 
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