Some idiot called the cops on me....

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TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: Chiropteran
Originally posted by: mooseracing
My sister jumped once when she was getting spanked and my dad got her on the leg and left a bruise. Child services were out the next day. they didn't want to believe my parents at all, hell now they would ask questions later and ship them off to jail.

If the spankings are so hard they are leaving bruises, that is abuse.

Yep. I have to draw the line when you actually cause contusions on children. If you spank them real hard and it leaves a red mark for a moment or two, that's one thing, but to actually bruise a child, that's a bit too far.

I greatly prefer non-corporal punishments and rewards, as it doesn't stifle development like resorting to violence does.

Tell me more about this stifling of development. I was spanked and slapped (and let me tell you deservedly so) every so often when I was little and I developed early and just fine. I have absolutely nothing against a slap here or there and spankings. Obviously no one should be leaving any bruises but some minor corporal punishment here and there .. eh.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: fishjie
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: fishjie
whoever called the cops on you is a dumb stupid hippy liberal who has spoiled and obnoxious kids.

Like you, Einstein?

i'm not spoiled nor am i obnoxious

i guess you must be one of those stupid hippy liberals who does not discipline their children. good job being a crappy parent.

i'm glad your 61st and 62nd post in the last 800 days have been these outstanding contributions.
 

Zenmervolt

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Oct 22, 2000
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Originally posted by: jonks
No offense, but we only have your side of the story. For all we know, you threw the kid in the car, rolled the windows down a little and told the little snot to "sweat the devil" out of her. If the cops showed up 20 minutes after you put the kid in the car and you were still there yelling at her, well, that's a long time to be "reprimanding."

Because walking away and leaving the child unattended in the car would have been a much better idea. :roll:

He wasn't "still yelling at her", he was letting her have her tantrum in a safe place that didn't interfere with other people's ability to enjoy the pool while staying nearby to make sure nothing happened to her.

ZV
 

Throckmorton

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Maybe the person thought you were going to leave your child in the car... You know a lot of kids die that way right? That makes it a reasonable concern.
 

AlienCraft

Lifer
Nov 23, 2002
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Welcome to the New World Order.
The State knows what is best for your child.
and you are expendable.



Your line forms to the right. It is a de- lousing shower. You will not need those clothes.
move along.....
 

slayer202

Lifer
Nov 27, 2005
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I don't think you did anything wrong unless you were rough about taking her to the car, idk
 

fishjie

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: fishjie
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: fishjie
whoever called the cops on you is a dumb stupid hippy liberal who has spoiled and obnoxious kids.

Like you, Einstein?

i'm not spoiled nor am i obnoxious

i guess you must be one of those stupid hippy liberals who does not discipline their children. good job being a crappy parent.

i'm glad your 61st and 62nd post in the last 800 days have been these outstanding contributions.

you're welcome
 

conehead433

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Dec 4, 2002
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I saw this BS and was reminded of a XFiles episode where some guy keeps getting this subliminal messages- 'Kill them, kill them all'. That's what should happen to those who don't think you should reprimand your children.
 

jonks

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Feb 7, 2005
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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: jonks
No offense, but we only have your side of the story. For all we know, you threw the kid in the car, rolled the windows down a little and told the little snot to "sweat the devil" out of her. If the cops showed up 20 minutes after you put the kid in the car and you were still there yelling at her, well, that's a long time to be "reprimanding."

Because walking away and leaving the child unattended in the car would have been a much better idea. :roll:

He wasn't "still yelling at her", he was letting her have her tantrum in a safe place that didn't interfere with other people's ability to enjoy the pool while staying nearby to make sure nothing happened to her.

Well I'm glad you were there to confirm his story. All I said was we're taking him at his word, and looking at the vitriol aimed at the tattler we're assuming it wasn't warranted.

What if someone posted the following:

I was at a pool this weekend and saw some guy go apeshit on his 3 year old. He hauled her out of the pool by her arm, carried her dangling by the arm to his car where he put her in the backseat and rolled down the windows a couple inches (it was 90 and sunny out) and told her to think about what she'd done. He then stood outside the car yelling at her through the window for 10 minutes. I would have said something about how the interior of the car could get into the 100s but the guy was standing there yelling at a 3 year old baking inside a car. Someone actually called the cops just to make sure the kid didn't die.

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Based solely on the OP it seems no police involvement was warranted, but people often aren't the best observers of their own behavior especially when frustrated, nor are they necessarily perfectly honest when posting in internet forums. So to wish death and destruction upon someone who honestly felt a 3 year old was in some danger, took a precaution by calling the police just to be safe, with the worst case scenario being nothing illegal was going on and the cops would take a peek and let the guy go, vs taking the risk that the kid dies and no one does anything or reports it to anyone when it could have been prevented, seems like going a little overboard to me.

When someone goes into a lawyers office and starts telling their story, the lawyer has to be skeptical and can't accept every word they say as the god's honest. People have a tendency to paint themselves in the best light, so take that into consideration before deciding who was in the right when you've only heard one person's version of the story.

Every story has 3 sides: mine, yours, and the truth.
 

Ruptga

Lifer
Aug 3, 2006
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Originally posted by: Garet Jax
Originally posted by: rh71
How was your child escorted to the car? Maybe they thought you used excessive force?

It was probably an old person with nothing else to do.

I was holding her wrapped up in a towel in my arm.

I could see why a pansy would think that's harsh, but you're fine, seriously ;)
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: fishjie
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: fishjie
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: fishjie
whoever called the cops on you is a dumb stupid hippy liberal who has spoiled and obnoxious kids.

Like you, Einstein?

i'm not spoiled nor am i obnoxious

i guess you must be one of those stupid hippy liberals who does not discipline their children. good job being a crappy parent.

i'm glad your 61st and 62nd post in the last 800 days have been these outstanding contributions.

you're welcome

^^^ Typical pacifist peacenik hippy response! :p

 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Jun 19, 2004
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LOL, wait til yer kid calls the cops on you!

When my oldest was a teenager, she fell asleep on the couch. Normally, she sleeps like a rock. I got up to check the kennels in the attached garage because our 5 Great Pyrs were making a racket. Evidently, my daughter saw a shadowy figure moving through the living room and out to the garage. Upon hearing the dogs go silent, in her half asleep state she thought the evil shadowy figure had done something awful to 5 dogs, ranging from 135 lbs. to 180 lbs, and called the police.

I returned to bed and had just gotten back to sleep, when I awoke to a knock on my bedroom door! The police apparently thought either A: I was a burglar in my own house or B: I was abusing my kids. I told them after the night's events, I was seriously considering starting to abuse my daughter but, they didn't think it amusing. Ah well, it's hard to be amusing at 3 am! After 45 minutes of explaining, I wasn't going to abuse my idiot teenage daughter, I finally got them to leave and let me go back to sleep. Perchance to dream...of new ways to make my daughter's life hell.

She's a good kid and it only took 30 years to get her there!
 

Garet Jax

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Originally posted by: jonks
Every story has 3 sides: mine, yours, and the truth.

I wholeheartedly agree - in fact that is my saying.

Two things to say about this:

1) I really want to know her/his side of the story so I can figure out what they think I did that warranted calling the cops. I already know what the cop thinks is the truth.
2) I posted this more to get it off my chest than to get a bunch of people telling me I did nothing wrong. I know I am a great dad because it is an effort everyday to do the right things. Disappointing and upsetting my children is among the hardest things I ever do, but I constantly remind the older one that I am her dad first and her friend second.
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Let it go before it drives you insane. :p

Nothing bothers me more than being accused of a wrongdoing when there was no wrongdoing whatsoever. You just have to forget it because nothing is going to change what happened.
 

OdiN

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Mar 1, 2000
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Spare the rod, spoil the child.

I think you were a little lax in the punishment department.
 

Oceandevi

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Originally posted by: Baked
You NEVER, EVER, EVER "reprimand" your children in the public. Do it at home in the basement where nobody can see or hear you. You're lucky the bitch that snitched on you didn't call child protective services.

Thats why I dug my own punishment pit under the house. Not quite a basement, but who needs dry floors and light when your in trouble?
 

evident

Lifer
Apr 5, 2005
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Originally posted by: dreadpiratedoug
Originally posted by: Garet Jax
My family was swimming at a pool at our local athletic club. My 3 year old was making a scene (which she tends to do when she doesn't get what she wants). I warned her to stop screaming and crying or she and I would go to the car and wait for her mom and sister (5 year old was taking lessons)

I counted to 3 and she didn't stop so I got out of the pool, wrapped her in a towel and went to our car. I put all 4 windows down and secured her in the car seat. I waited by the trunk of the car. I was visibly frustrated and raised my voice at her, but I did not do anything that warranted calling the cops.

Well after waiting for about 20 minutes, a cop shows up and approaches me. He said he had been called to investigate "a child being reprimanded". He gave me no more details nor any specific reason for the concern. By this point my wife and older daughter had returned to the car.

He checked out both children without physically touching them, asked for ID and asked some questions. He also used his radio (presumably to check for outstanding warranats on me). The whole process took about 20 minutes.

I have no idea what this person saw that concerned them and I have no idea why they felt they needed to call police. My wife and I talked about it at length and the only thing we came up with was they might have thought I left the windows up (to punish her). I literally didn't sleep that night as I was soul-searching trying to see if I stepped over the line.

The thing that pisses me off is that one encounter with a police officer can totally change someone's life whether or not they are guilty. I was lucky in that the officer seemed to be reasonable and didn't assume I was guilty of anything. I think it helped that he had children himself. I shudder to think what could have happened if the police officer took a disliking to me or wanted to prove something.

That's a bunch of bullshit ... I was spanked/popped on the head as a child for various things, and if I was a brat to my dad or step-mom, I got a hand up the backside of my head. Period - I learned pretty quickly. Fuckin pussifying of america ...

:thumbsup:

My parents are very old school. they would make me kneel in the corner after whipping my ass w/ a bamboo stick. i was a punk kid sometimes, but i learned!
 

Bignate603

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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I can completely understand, my father had the cops show up once but it was my SISTER that called them.

Basically my sister who was an angsty teenager at the time told him that she was going to run away. He said oh no you aren't and grabbed her ankle (he had been sitting on the floor working on something) and held on so she couldn't leave. She freaked out and claimed that this was child abuse and that she was going to call the cops, so he had my mother bring her the phone and call.

The cops showed up to find my sister sitting in a chair in our front room with my dad sitting on the ground still holding on to her ankle. They almost cracked up, but then had to explain to my sister that he wasn't hurting her and that he was within his rights (and actually within his legal duty) to physically prevent her from running away as long it was in a non-harmful way.