Some Hispanic Americans (LEGALS) hope law deters ILLEGAL immigration

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http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/04/30/arizona.hispanics.immigration/index.html

Sue Schwartz says she's been called a racist so many times she doesn't mind the label anymore. If wanting immigrants to enter the country legally, like her great-grandparents from Mexico, and obey the laws of the land makes her racist, then so be it, she says firmly.

So she wants everyone to enter the US legally and now she is a racist? I thought racists are only for whiteys. She is hispanic <gasping in shock>.

"If I entered another country illegally I'd go to jail, yet they're demanding better treatment than their government would give us," she says.

Amen. So far, not a single Pro ILLEGAL immigrant crowd can name one, just one, country on earth that will let anyone enter without permission. Enter a country ILLEGALLY is a crime. Period.

"We as Americans have the right to defend this country's laws. There's nothing racist about protecting the country," she says.
Payan, originally from Puerto Rico, hopes the law will deter future illegal immigration.
"I hope it stops trespassers and lets people know the law is the law and you cross that border illegally, it's a crime," she says.

Couldn't say better myself. A nation is within its right to control its border and enforce its laws and rules.

Want to live in the US and be a citizen? Follow the law. Enough is enough.
 
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xj0hnx

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That's pretty much the meat of it. The pro-illegal crowd wishes they could turn their lawlessness into racism, but it isn't working.
 

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Zogby Poll Finds Wide Support for Enforcement:

In contrast to the leadership of many ethnic advocacy groups, most members of minority groups think immigration is too high.

Hispanics: 56 percent said it is too high; 7 percent said too low; 14 percent just right.
Asian-Americans: 57 percent said immigration is too high; 5 percent said too low; 18 percent just right.

African-Americans: 68 percent said it is too high; 4 percent said too low; 14 percent just right.


Most members of minority groups do not feel that illegal immigration is caused by limits on

as many ethnic advocacy groups argue; instead, members feel it's due to a lack of enforcement.

Hispanics: Just 20 percent said illegal immigration was caused by not letting in enough legal immigrants; 61 percent said inadequate enforcement.

Asian-Americans: 19 percent said not enough legal immigration; 69 percent said inadequate enforcement.

African-Americans: 16 percent said not enough legal immigration; 70 percent said inadequate enforcement.


Most members of minority groups feel that there are plenty of Americans available to fill unskilled jobs.

Hispanics: 15 percent said legal immigration should be increased to fill unskilled jobs; 65 percent said there are plenty of Americans available to do unskilled jobs, employers just need to pay more.

Asian-Americans: 19 percent said increase immigration; 65 percent said plenty of Americans are available

African-Americans: 6 percent said increase immigration; 81 percent said plenty of Americans are available.

When asked to choose between enforcement that would cause illegal immigrants in the country to go home or offering them a pathway to with conditions, most members of minority groups choose enforcement.

Hispanics: 52 percent support enforcement to encourage illegals to go home; 34 percent support conditional legalization.

Asian-Americans: 57 percent support enforcement; 29 percent support conditional legalization.

African-Americans: 50 percent support enforcement; 30 percent support conditional legalization.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/minority-advocates-constituents-differ-immigration/
 

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I can't tell you how many times I've been called a racist for being against illegal immigration. - Naturalized US Citizen....
 

IGBT

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the Clan with a Tan la Raza says if you disagree with them ya are a racist no matter what color you are.
 
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Here are three videos of a Mexican-American activist who opposes illegal immigration:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/434773...l_immigration/

http://vimeo.com/9860984

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMYJvj0bEb4

Here's a (not completely accurate) quote from the first video:

A month and a half ago I was standing with Robin at a rally in Laguna Beach. I'm standing there and there's a man across the street. There's illegal aliens besides all the anarchists and the communists. And they start shouting and Robin starts saying something to them and I'm standing there listening. And finally Robin says to me, "What are they saying, Lupe?" And I kept looking and tears were coming out of my eyes and I said, "Robin, he's describing how he's gonna rape you if he gets a hold of you." That's what it's come to in our nation. When they can come across the street, call across the street to a woman, an American woman and tell her he's going to rape her, how they could walk up to policemen and shoot them point blank...
 
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blackangst1

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Not to mention dontspeakforme.org...

You Don't Speak for Me formed when Col. Al Rodriguez became fed up watching media coverage of the mass protests of April. "Their leaders were saying it was a march for immigrant rights and a Latino/Hispanic movement," says Rodriguez. "I thought to myself, 'Hey, those are illegal aliens, not immigrants!'" Col. Rodriguez began speaking out to others saying, "I'm of Hispanic ancestry and those people are acting like they speak for me. Well, you don't speak for me!"

Damn racists!
 

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Despite a vocal minority it really does appear that illegal immigration is something most Americans dislike. The Democrats need to stop pandering to the fringe that is for amnesty.
 

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Despite a vocal minority it really does appear that illegal immigration is something most Americans dislike. The Democrats need to stop pandering to the fringe that is for amnesty.

Love it or hate it, minorities rule for the dems. Fringe groups are their voting base. Realistically speaking, if they don't pander to those minorities, they wouldn't ever win another election.
 

OrByte

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It should be enough to say that not all people that support laws meant to deter illegal immigration are racists..

but that all racists support laws meant to deter illegal immigration.

Does that make sense? :)
 

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It should be enough to say that not all people that support laws meant to deter illegal immigration are racists..

but that all racists support laws meant to deter illegal immigration.

Does that make sense? :)

In thinly veiled attempt to assert that this law is somehow racist maybe it would make sense if you are looking to play the race card.
 

OrByte

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In thinly veiled attempt to assert that this law is somehow racist maybe it would make sense if you are looking to play the race card.

I can agree with that.

But putting the law aside...I was just looking at the rationale (or irrationale) of it all.
 

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There are 200+ countries in world, and USA borders with only few of them ... people from all countries shall have same fair chance to get in USA.

The legal immigration program helped millions of war victims around the world, it would have helped even more if there were no illegal immigrants. Hell, hundreds of thousands of people might be dead if they didn't migrate legally to USA.
 

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There are 200+ countries in world, and USA borders with only few of them ... people from all countries shall have same fair chance to get in USA.

The legal immigration program helped millions of war victims around the world, it would have helped even more if there were no illegal immigrants. Hell, hundreds of thousands of people might be dead if they didn't migrate legally to USA.


if your an environmentalist, your happy with an occasional culling of the herd. As long as it isn't one of yours.
 

Svnla

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I can't tell you how many times I've been called a racist for being against illegal immigration. - Naturalized US Citizen....

Same here, I am NOT white and I am a legal US immigrant and citizen. It took a lot of time and effort to be here legally. I can't stand ILLEGALS and most, if not all, legals are feeling the same way.
 

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Just a bump to make sure the people who say people against illegal immigration are racist get a chance to see this thread.
 

thegimp03

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I find it sad that opponents of illegal immigration are being labeled as racists. It's called protecting our borders.