Some good things from the Republican controlled house... getting rid of the czars

[PokerGuy]

As we saw with the deficit spending and dumb laws, Obummer saw W's ideas and said "I'll see your dumb idea and raise you!".

 

[boomerang]

You are aware that none of those have actually become law right ?

The post was solely for affect. The point being that the Republican controlled House is doing everything in it's power to abide by the wishes of those that elected them. It's a refreshing change.

Our dear leader will veto any and all that get to his desk, of that I am certain.

Children and adults. The kids want everything and the adults know there's no money for it. The continuing struggle.

 

[Darwin333]

You would think that our elected leaders would at the very least be smart enough to not call them Czars.

 

[dainthomas]

Probably this too, democrats probably didn't care. Wouldn't surprise me.
First guy to use czrs was FDR, the guy who basically burned the constitution.

That would be Lincoln.

 

[matt0611]

That would be Lincoln.

Used czars or burned the constitution?

I agree with the second.

You would think that our elected leaders would at the very least be smart enough to not call them Czars.

This, can we at least agree not to call them czars?

 

[HomerJS]

Pick your poison. Czars or bringing in oil company execs to write energy policy

 

[trenchfoot]

Pick your poison. Czars or bringing in oil company execs to write energy policy

Seems like the latter is already in place, and the tipping point has already been permanantly tipped in the oil execs favor as Obama has apparently given up on another of his campaign promises to rein in their influence on the Hill.....another one of his compromises to get where he needs to go for middle America and the poor?

 

[MidasKnight]

:thumbsup:

Yup, this. No more fucking Czars.

I hate that fucking name too.

Get rid of them all.

 

[Fear No Evil]

WTG Shrub:thumbsdown:

Started a czar trend that is not good for the US, along with the huge deficit spending, stupid wars, etc, etc. FU GWB. Sunk the US for 20+ years, a new record. Reagan was only able to F us for 10-12 years.

Obama is so far stupid enough to continue the trend established.

Obama is stupid enough to follow a WHOLE LOT of what Bush did. Either Bush is one of the smartest President's ever or Obama is one of the stupidest.

 

[IBMer]

Obama is stupid enough to follow a WHOLE LOT of what Bush did. Either Bush is one of the smartest President's ever or Obama is one of the stupidest.

I clearly remember all the Shadow Governement cries from the right during Bushes administration. Oh wait that never happened.

 

[Thump553]

Correct me if I'm wrong please: I always thought these positions were either patronage positions or fall guy positions to be used at the discretion of the president.

You are correct. And the modern use of "czars" including the term (FDR would have never used the term czar in a favorable light, nor would any President during the cold war) really began with Reagan and the first drug czar.

Presidents have always had unofficial advisors, so-called kitchen cabinets. Frankly this proposal is all about a struggle of power between the executive and legislative branch-the legislators want to extend their power overseeing appointments. Frankly given the extremely sorry history of legislative oversight in the last two decades (if not more) with inaction, pocket vetoes, Attorney General nominees rejected because of non-green card nannies, etc. I don't think giving those clowns more power is any solution.

Cliffs: political powergrab disguised as reform