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Some good gaming sites?

What are some good sites with forums that have alot of ppl for discussing games for consoles and PC? IGN was popular but since they started that IGNinsider BS I am putting that site to rest since I can't get into the forums anymore. I ain't paying the fees as they are better mags for the same $$$ IMO. I know about gamespot but thats about it.
 
I wish gamespot had a simpler less-graphical version of their website for 56kers :/ back in the day when there were less broadband users gamespot was the sh*t, and still is I guess but I don't go there since it takes me 3 minutes to load each page. But if ur broadband then here's another vote for gamespot
 


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<< Well there's a website www.gamecapitol.com that is still under construction, but I think it will be good soon. >>

not a shameless self-promition...
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sorry...I just don't know any good ways to promote a website, so that seemed like a good idea.
 
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