Some facts about typical racists...

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veryape

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Depends on your definition of racism really. Some think I am racist because I believe affirmative action is racism against white people. Many blacks disagree with me but its really in the eye of the beholder.

To give one race preferential treatment over another constitutes racism in my book.
 

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<< To give one race preferential treatment over another constitutes racism in my book. >>



there's no justification for reverse descrimination
 

Russ

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veryape,

That is not racism, that is an opinion. The correct one.

Russ, NCNE
 

pen^2

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lets for once try not to turn this tread into another affirmative action bashing one. personally i think SOMETHING had to be done in order to correct racial inequality that persists in the field of education. granted, it may not be the best solution, i strongly disagree the motive of AA constitiutes a 'reverse racism'.
 

Shalmanese

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umm.. Im chines, Im prejudiced against chinese people, Does that count as racism?

prolly not since Im also prjudiced against Australia, The US, japan, HK, Tibet, North AND South Korea, Russia, Britan, France, Italy, Germany, Spain, The Christmas Islands, Mexico, All of africa, most of south america, definatly all the pacific island, india and pakistan....

In fact, I think the only county Im not prjudiced against is Tahejeckstan(sp?) cos its got a mount Communism Which I think is pretty cool :)
 

veryape

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And I don't believe anything needed to be done as far as starting AA goes. Grades get you into school and good work ethics and work history will get you a good job no matter what color you are.

Racism works both ways and nobody is truly treated equally, so just work hard and you will be rewarded. I certainly get no free rides being a white male. I have worked for what I have.

Think about it,can you imagine the outcry if there was a *gasp* &quot;white college fund&quot;.
 

pen^2

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geez, some folks live in a fantasy world. how near sighted one could get?
btw, what party of affirmative action has to do with typical racists? neffers should move along, not me
 

Midnight Rambler

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<< *They're ignorant to the fact that inbreeding causes hereditary defects. >>

Conversely, homologation of the human race will eventually lead to many race-specific &quot;defects&quot; becoming universal. Genetics does not discriminate either way ...
 

DesignDawg

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People,

&quot;Human&quot; and &quot;Homo Sapiens&quot; are NOT RACES. REPEAT. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE &quot;HUMAN RACE.&quot; And NO ONE is of the race &quot;Homo Sapiens Sapiens.&quot; We are all of the:

Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Subphylum: Vertebrata
Class: Mammalia
Subclass: Theria
Infraclass: Eutheria
Order: Primates
Suborder: Anthropoidea
Superfamily: Hominoidea
Family: Hominidae
Genus: Homo
Species: sapiens

To clarify, the DEFINITION of race is:

race1 (rs)
n.

1. A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.
2. A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race.
3. A genealogical line; a lineage. Human beings considered as a group.
Biology.
4. A population of organisms differing from others of the same species in the frequency of hereditary traits; a subspecies.
5. A breed or strain, as of domestic animals.
6. A distinguishing or characteristic quality, such as the flavor of a wine.

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There's no point in saying &quot;There are no races.&quot; Obviously, there are. Why some people refuse to accept it despite its established meaning defies all logic. I guess it's all just romantic bullsh!t. THERE ARE DIFFERENT RACES. Do we have to notice them? Yes, if we can see. Do we have to care? No.


Ricky
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kumanchu

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azn pryde!?!???..

/me runs like hell.
/me is just kidding
/me is not racist, just proud of being who he is
/me has a st00pid /bad /tastless sense of humor. don't hold it agains't him.

 

TravisBickle

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racism n 1. the belief that races have distinctive cultural characteristics determined by hereditary factors and that this endows some races with an intrinsic superiority over others
penguin
racism n1a. a belief that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.

I always got the impression that racism was a general overall feeling of superiority but often led to aggressive behaviour. the puzzle I have with the overall superiority is that I can't really even say cats are superior to dogs, because they each have their own niches. maybe a dog could eat a cat but that's not really the point is it? each of these races succeeds according to their own adaptations. I have sat next to someone who when he hears boxing is on the TV he says &quot;the black one will win&quot; even if he doesn't know who's fighting, or even if he knows both are black. (ha bloody ha) well all I can say is that if I have a superior intellect, it did me no good whatsoever and I'd rather be earning $$$ for bashing chumps LOL
 

pen^2

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<< *They're ignorant to the fact that inbreeding causes hereditary defects >>


hmm... last time i checked 99.5% of koreans are not mixed at ALL. does that make us some degenerate race? :(:Q:confused:
 

Prodigy^

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I don't think it's entirely true that we're all racist, but it depends on how you define the word. I am not racist in my opinion because I don't truly believe that any race (or skin color or whatever) is inferior to me, a white guy. I could never swear that I thought so.

However, many people are probably always a bit scared or surprised when they encounter people from other cultures, especially black people who have a history for having suffered from racism. Like, you're careful what you say, etc., and that stuff when you're around them.

I also agree with red's last comment....trust me, skin color IS an objective if you want to make a career, no matter where you live. And don't tell me anything about our 'modern society'.....there's a lot of asshole out there.
 

imhotepmp

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<< I believe the same thing.While it might end up having all the trappings of reverse racism it's not motivated by racism against White Males. On the contrary, it is brought about because of racism by White Males. When the day comes when all are treated as equals and people are hired and promoted based soley on their abilities then there will no longer need to be programs like AA. Unfortunately the times hasn't arrived. Does that mean I wouldn't be pissed if I was denied a job or a Promotion based on the fact that I wasn't a certain race? Hell no, you bet I would be pissed. But deep down I know the problem isn't AA, the problem is racism against those that AA is trying to help. >>



very well said Red Dawn. Some people have the idea that society today treats everyone equal. But this is far from the case. I agree that AA is 'reverse racism, but in this point in time it's still necessary in some levels. I personally think they should base AA on economic background, rather than 'racial' background. The process of getting into college depends heavily on the SAT. Which is imho heavily biased against upper income kids. People who are economically disadvantaged dont have acccess to the same resources that others do. This obviously puts them at a....... disadvantage(duh!) when it comes to taking standardized tests.

I apoligize for getting off topic, I was taking a break from studying.....

imhotep(MP)
 

Missus

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They only thing that I can truly say that I hate enough to be considered racist are slugs.... I think the earth should be purged of them....

Grab the salt dear... I think they are heading for the hydranga!!

;)
 

Thorn

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Racism? Well, yeah, I have to admit that I don't like snakes too much... I'm not to fond of spiders either. But really, that's about it. Oh yeah, I almost forgot, I don't really like big angry dogs (got mauled a bit by one as a small child).


Now if you're referring to people, you're way off base. How can there be racism when we're all one race? (cool, nice rhyme!) :) As far as ethnic groups are concerned, I guess they all have their good and bad points... and all of them have their fair share if idiots and a$$holes. So you can say that I'm prejudiced against ignorant pud-wankers, regardless of color, creed, or nationality.
 

UG

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DesignDawg,

Quite correct about race vs. species. Thanks for the clarification. I ment species in attempting to make the point that the difference between races is inconsequential when considered on the genetic level where we all are overwhelmingly identical.

 

veryape

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Nobody claimed that Affirmative Action was started or even motivated to be an organization hellbent on racism against the white man. That is only what it is or has become,although I really do not see how they could not see it coming. How can starting an organization specifically targeted at helping one race of human and only that particular race not be considered racist itself? Thats just foolish and is inherently racist,and is just asking to be challenged.

I am not racist by any definition of the term but I will not sit back and listen to the pissing and moaning for equality that goes on yet only serves to perpetuate the very thing they are complaining about.

If a neighborhood is crimeridden,and 99%black people reside there,of course 99% of people pulled over will be black,yet we are wasting taxpayers money to prove racial profiling is just a term. Where I live about 80% of the people pulled over are white. Anyone want to hazard a guess why? Right,its 80% populated by white people. Its not racial profiling,its just plain old profiling.

I do realize that racism exists to an extent but it happens to every race not just blacks. Slavery is long since over yet it is treated like it is still going on today. Why does everything have to be a racial issue. Can it not just be that sometimes people may not be qualified for a school or job and are therefore denied access?

Enough is enough. I can't even walk through the south side of the city I live in because I fear being jumped or stabbed or even shot because i'm white,now that is racism,yet nothing is being done about that. Black people need to stop complaining about racism and get on with their lives. It will always exist to some extent and no amount of education will curtail that fact. People are people,there are good and bad people and always will be.

I'm sure I will be flamed for these comments but I can't stand it anymore. I feel like the victim. Blacks,hispanics and any other minority has muchn more opportunity at a free ride then I do,not that I want a free ride,just an equall shot at government resources which i'm not given.

Racism is being perpetuated by the very people who are complaining of it. Please don't get all jerked at my statements. It really is not directed at anyone,just my opinions and observations.

I know everyone says &quot;I even have some black friends&quot; but my best friend does happen to be black and agrees with most of my views!
EVERYONE should be treated equally,not just one race.
 

FettsBabe

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Most people aren't racist. Most people use to many stereotypes. Probably due to school kids grouping everyone. Its like we never grow out of it...preps, lowlife, redneck, outcast, etc.
 

imhotepmp

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bare with me people, I'm not as articulate as some, but I try. :)


<< If a neighborhood is crimeridden,and 99%black people reside there,of course 99% of people pulled over will be black,yet we are wasting taxpayers money to prove racial profiling is just a term >>



This racial profiling thing youre referring isnt taking place in black neigborhoods obviously. Its going on in the so called upscale 'white' neighborhoods. If half the people being pulled over are black, and the neighborhood is 90% white, tell me how that is not racial profiling? An unproportional amount of blacks are being pulled over.You're statement is way off base.





<< I am not racist by any definition of the term but I will not sit back and listen to the pissing and moaning for equality that goes on yet only serves to perpetuate the very thing they are complaining about. >>



I agree and as I said before, it is a reverse racism. However, is it better than the alternative? What would be the state of minorities for not affirmative action? They would be even a smaller minority in every aspect of the american workforce, from business to the sciences than they already are. Why? Not because they're not capable, because they would not be given the opportunity.



<< Black people need to stop complaining about racism and get on with their lives. It will always exist to some extent and no amount of education will curtail that fact. >>



Who's complaining? Do I complain when people insist that Im a basketball player simply because Im black even though Im only 5'7&quot;! No, youre always going to have people who believe these sterotypes. I've accepted the fact that some people are ignorant no matter what skin color they are. You wouldnt believe how manyu times I've heard the term great person(. You would think that only the older people would be bigots, but I've seen 15 year olds spit racist dereogatory terms out there mouth. Statements like Black people need to stop complaining about racism and get on with their lives. is similar to the basketball assumption, and deserves the same response......


btw I am one of those minorites who have being given an opportunity simply because I'm a minority who was an over-achiever for my group, according to the people making ht epolices that is. Im in a research program which allows undergraduate to do scientific research. Do I feel i got a free ride? Hell no, I've had to work my a$$ off just as much an anyone else. These programs were setup to get more minorities into the sciences, an area in which they are underrepresented greatly.

I want to address some more of youre comments, but I have a midterm to take.

 

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*Would I want to work for someone who hated my race?

-no, I believe in being a good worker and a benefit to my employer. I try not to work for someone I don't feel is somewhat worthy.

*What do I think of affirmative action?

-I don't really think about it much, but I believe that everyone should have equal opportunity. Educations should not be for sale. I don't care what race you are, poverty is what hinders us most. Apprenticeships are less wasteful.

*What I think our (US)government should do?

-I think it should be born again by honorable people. No government lasts forever. I think we may see a collapse within our lifetime with possibly a redistribution of the poverty.

*Is there a solution to racism?

-Well, our goverment could arrange our marriages so we would have to blend. If we're all mutts, it would make racism very difficult.