(Some) Democrats apparently think a Clinton/Cheney ticket can win 2024?

[MichaelMay]

Left laughs off floated changes to 2024 ticket

Progressives are openly frustrated as the Biden administration flounders on issues across the board, but they are dismissing outright suggestions that previous party leaders — or, worse, Republican…

thehill.com

Is this for real? Who, exactly, is proposing this??? Please explain to me what coalition these 2 women can pull together to get 270 electoral votes?? Why the fuck are we even wasting virtual ink on this idea?

And people wonder why progressives can't have nice things....

While I think that Hillary, staunch liberal to the core and somewhat progressive, would have made one of the US's best presidents in history Liz Cheney is a staunch old school, very conservative republican.

It'd be like a Bernie Sanders/Ronald Reagan ticket, completely ridiculous.

 

[MichaelMay]

Liz might be OK.

But attached to that 'thing' there would be no chance at all.

Please be more careful in your choice of descriptive words.

Perknose
Forum Director

I have a feeling that you are the problem with American politics. You disregard policy and ideals and go with "she's not a pretty little thing and I'm an incel" instead. It's quite fucking pathetic how you hold beauty contests for women and popularity contests for the men in lieu of having democratic elections over there.

 

[DisarmedDespot]

It's clickbait. Stop giving it clicks.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Y'alls gonna make me vote orange, ain't ya?

Millions will if that's the ticket. Meeeellions.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Liz and Liz might win though.

 

[Jaskalas]

Oh boy.... Biden has a few setbacks that are not his fault and democrats are ready to toss him under the bus?

Sort of, those things would matter for appearances sake.
On that subject, also his age and difficulty speaking.

 

[brycejones]

Sort of, those things would matter for appearances sake.
On that subject, also his age and difficulty speaking.

You mean his stutter? That’s low

 

[feralkid]

Sinema/Greene '24 is about as likely.

 

[blackangst1]

I think the Dems need a strong performer in 2024. More and more all Biden is doing is spewing word salad, which is very confusing. Here's the latest:

Did Joe Biden really say that the 2022 election could be 'illegitimate'? (msn.com) [CNN]

 

[Fenixgoon]

I think the Dems need a strong performer in 2024. More and more all Biden is doing is spewing word salad, which is very confusing. Here's the latest:

Did Joe Biden really say that the 2022 election could be 'illegitimate'? (msn.com) [CNN]

Rtfa

What, then, can we conclude? A few things:
1) Biden never said the 2022 election would be illegitimate. His quote about an election "easily" being illegitimate is quite clearly him referring to the 2020 race.
2) Biden never really answers the question he was asked in any sort of definitive way.
3) Biden ties passage of federal voting rights legislation to the likely legitimacy of the 2022 election.
In short: Biden was vague and unclear at just the wrong moment. As the former president of the United States seeks to undermine faith in American elections, the current occupant of the White House needs to affirm free and fairness of the vote in the most blunt terms possible. Biden didn't come close to doing that on Wednesday.

 

[blackangst1]

Rtfa

Maybe you should? Its confusing as fuck.

Then Biden pivots to say that, no matter what, minority voters will show up to vote in 2022, which has zero to do with the original question about whether the election might be illegitimate.

Biden: "Oh, yeah, I think it easily could be -- be illegitimate. Imagine -- imagine if, in fact, Trump has succeeded in convincing Pence to not count the votes."
Reporter: "In regard to 2022, sir -- the midterm elections." ( Did he forget the question? comment mine)

The reporter interjects to make sure Biden knows the question isn't about the legitimacy of the 2020 election. Biden course corrects -- "Oh, 2022" -- then gives what is, at best, a confusing answer. He uses an odd phrasing -- "I'm not going to say it's going to be legit" -- and then directly links the legitimacy of the 2022 election to getting major voting reform legislation passed at the federal level. Legislation, it's worth noting, that has no chance of passing before the 2022 election.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

It really isn't that hard.

2020 'could have been illegitimate if Mikey had capitulated to Donny's whims'.


2022 'could be illegitimate if national reform doesn't fix the GOP's meddling'.