[SOLVED] This seems like really poor performance for a raptor

bovinda

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Am I not doing it rite? Installed brand new 300 GB raptor today (model WD3000GLFS), and I'm trying it on HD Tune right now (trial version). My Samsung drives were getting read speeds of 60-80 mb/sec, while this was getting 3.1-3.6 mb/sec read. The write speeds are 0-1.5 mb/sec. What do I do?? What else can I try?
 

Gunbuster

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Sounds like it's stuck in PIO mode. Check the drive controller settings in the BIOS
 

bovinda

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Someone mentioned this elsewhere, too. I didn't see any options for this in my BIOS, on a quick glance, though...did I miss it?

After restarting my computer, the read speeds went up to 110-120 MB/sec on HD Tune, but the write speeds never seemed to get above 3-5 MB/sec. I also went into Device Manager and looked at the IDE channels, and none of them said PIO mode, they were all DMA of some kind. Any more ideas? I ended up RMA'ing the drive and sent it out today, but if it's something on my hardware end, I'll need to fix it when it gets back, so any suggestions are appreciated.
 

Fallengod

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Seriously doubt its the drive....probably just rma'd for no reason. Its gotta be mobo or controller or something.
 

bovinda

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Originally posted by: Fallengod
Seriously doubt its the drive....probably just rma'd for no reason. Its gotta be mobo or controller or something.

What else do I check, though? I ran a diagnostic on it with WD's diagnostic tools, and both the quick test and the extended test came out fine, which makes me think you're right. But I could not get it to write fast at all. I tried out a brand new Samsung 1 TB drive in the same spot, with the same cables plugged in to all the same places and everything, and it was fine. So what does that suggest? :(

What else should I check?

EDIT: I don't mean for this to sound snippy, if it did. I seriously mean, what else should I check? I really don't know. I have a hunch you might be right, but I didn't know what else to do, so any suggestions (and how-to's, or links to how-to) are greatly, greatly appreciated!
 

HumbleDan

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In Win XP you need to go to control panel -> system -> device manager -> and look for IDE controller -> click on either primary or secondary (depend on which channel your drive is) and right click and select property. -> Look at the tab at the top there should be advance setting, click advance setting and see if your drive is in PIO mode or not. If it is just change it to DMA and restart.

If still slow update your controller driver. If it still slow could be the hard disk.

 

bovinda

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Originally posted by: HumbleDan
In Win XP you need to go to control panel -> system -> device manager -> and look for IDE controller -> click on either primary or secondary (depend on which channel your drive is) and right click and select property. -> Look at the tab at the top there should be advance setting, click advance setting and see if your drive is in PIO mode or not. If it is just change it to DMA and restart.

If still slow update your controller driver. If it still slow could be the hard disk.

I'm using Vista 64, but when I'd gone in an checked all 4 RMA channels that showed up, they all said that they were in DMA mode of some kind - none of them had said PIO mode.

Which brings me to my next question, stupid though it may be. My mobo site lists a JMicron RAID/AHCI installation disk, an Intel RAID/AHCI Installation Disk, and a JMicron SATA driver. I assume that the one I would want to update would be the JMicron SATA driver? But the newest version there is from April of 2007. The others are more recent, but they sound like I would only use those if I were doing a RAID set up, right? I'm not sure what AHCI is.

So what would I further check in my BIOS, or what would the next step be? Say I get the drive back, same problem; do I go to my BIOS next?
 

Fallengod

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You should definitely check to make sure you got all the right and updated mobo drivers installed for everything as well. Especially stuff related to controllers.
 

bovinda

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Let me ask you about that...is it better to use the drivers on my mobo's site, even if they're dated? (For example, JMicron's SATA driver on their site from like April of last year.) Or is it better to go the manufacturer's site (like, JMicron) and get the newest driver? I feel like everything on Abit's site is dated.

Are there any other controllers than JMicron's SATA controller? In device manager, I don't see a JMicron controller anywhere, but I do Intel IDE controllers...but not sure where to find the drivers for those.
 

bovinda

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Originally posted by: bovinda
Let me ask you about that...is it better to use the drivers on my mobo's site, even if they're dated? (For example, JMicron's SATA driver on their site from like April of last year.) Or is it better to go the manufacturer's site (like, JMicron) and get the newest driver? I feel like everything on Abit's site is dated.

Are there any other controllers than JMicron's SATA controller? In device manager, I don't see a JMicron controller anywhere, but I do Intel IDE controllers...but not sure where to find the drivers for those.

Mini-bump...still would like to know about drivers and controllers.
 

HumbleDan

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Normally you would go to your mobo site for drivers. But you can try the manufacturer's site too if it is newer. For Intel have check http://downloadcenter.intel.com/ ?

So are you sure it's not a faulty hard drive ? Do you have any other hard drive you can try to see if the controller is faulty ?
 

bovinda

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Originally posted by: HumbleDan
Normally you would go to your mobo site for drivers. But you can try the manufacturer's site too if it is newer. For Intel have check http://downloadcenter.intel.com/ ?

So are you sure it's not a faulty hard drive ? Do you have any other hard drive you can try to see if the controller is faulty ?

So I wasn't sure, and I ended up RMAing it. To compare, though, I switched it with a brand new 1 TB Samsung drive (same cables, same everything, no driver updates) and formatted it - it was much, much faster, and HD Tune showed it's write times were normal. Is there something different about a Raptor that would make it not work under the same controller that another drive would work on?
 

HumbleDan

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Glad to hear it is not your controller. It was probably just a faulty hard drive. But PC components can be finicky. So you should really go with the model that work for the motherboard.
 

bovinda

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So it did indeed end up being the drive. I RMA'd it and the new one today works great, with write speeds around 120 MB/sec (as opposed to 5 MB/sec before). Thanks for the help everyone! :)
 

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Originally posted by: bovinda
So it did indeed end up being the drive. I RMA'd it and the new one today works great, with write speeds around 120 MB/sec (as opposed to 5 MB/sec before). Thanks for the help everyone! :)

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