**Solved - AVG bug** Firefox continues to stream video...even after closing down.

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Ketchup

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... Edit #2: Even happens in a virtual machine (XP copy of my work laptop on this same PC). I don't know what to make of it.

Is the VM version running with saved profile (from Mozbackup or something of that sort) or a completely clean installation (with only manual updates)?
 

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I turned off hardware assist in Firefox. No difference.

As for Netlimiter, it points to Firefox when Firefox is stuck in the background streaming and to Chrome when Chrome is stuck in the background streaming. Neither are shown as an open application or process in Task Manager. Netlimiter shows them (grayed out even like they are finishing up). There are usually many processes shown under each but only a few are still streaming (depending on how many videos were shut down before finishing).

I don't know what the hell is happening but will keep on chugging along trying to figure out why.

Try disabling hardware acceleration in Flash Player itself via control panel, and skim through the Nvidia Control Panel settings for anything as well.
 

Engineer

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Try disabling hardware acceleration in Flash Player itself via control panel, and skim through the Nvidia Control Panel settings for anything as well.

Didn't know that I could do that. Will look at it when I get home.

As for the laptop, it might have been installed (Firefox) after I made the image. Not really sure as the image is several years old. It does have the latest FF on it. I have an older image with an older version of FF on it. I might fire it up just to check.

By the way, I just check the laptop where the image was taken from and it doesn't (from what I can tell) do this. FF shuts down and no streaming in the background. This one has an older Nvidia Quatro (spelling?) video adapter whereas my home as a 460 Nvidia card (older but not as old as the laptop).

More testing tonight.

:(

Edit: Just figured out how to turn off hardware acceleration for Flash and still have the streaming in the background.

*sigh*
 
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Engineer

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I'll be damned. I think I just found it. I turned off AVG and the problem did not reoccur.

Now to do more testing and maybe change anti-virus if necessary.

Edit: Just turned AVG on again and started the videos, ending them right after starting. Looked and was pegged out on downloading, even after closing FF. Turned off AVG while still pegged out and downloading stopped.

Tried the videos again with AVG off from the start and problem didn't happen again.

Edit: Information on AVG getting both FF and Chrome to do the same thing: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/997796

Looks like AVG knows and is passing it on to the developers: http://community.avg.com/windows_products?id=906b00000000LEsAAM
 
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John Connor

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AVG sucks. Try Panda cloud. Some have complained of false positives but I haven't seen any. I have it on two computers.
 

ImpulsE69

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Very odd. Glad you found it. AVG used to be great, but went severely downhill 2-3 years ago.
 

Ketchup

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I'll be damned. I think I just found it. I turned off AVG and the problem did not reoccur.

Now to do more testing and maybe change anti-virus if necessary.

Edit: Just turned AVG on again and started the videos, ending them right after starting. Looked and was pegged out on downloading, even after closing FF. Turned off AVG while still pegged out and downloading stopped.

Tried the videos again with AVG off from the start and problem didn't happen again.

Edit: Information on AVG getting both FF and Chrome to do the same thing: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/997796

Looks like AVG knows and is passing it on to the developers: http://community.avg.com/windows_products?id=906b00000000LEsAAM

Good job. I have seen Norton do things like (but not exactly) this. I have always said if you practice safe browsing habits, MSE is fine, and antivirus is not worth the slowdown in a virtual machine environment.
 

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Good job. I have seen Norton do things like (but not exactly) this. I have always said if you practice safe browsing habits, MSE is fine, and antivirus is not worth the slowdown in a virtual machine environment.

I don't trust my kids, their friends or anyone else in my house enough to turn off AV. Have spent days (literally) rebuilding my daughter's PC (trying to save iTunes library and other stuff) after running her's with no AV protection. At this point in time, I'll keep using an AV and see how things go.

I'm trying Bitdefender free right now.
 

Ketchup

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I don't trust my kids, their friends or anyone else in my house enough to turn off AV. Have spent days (literally) rebuilding my daughter's PC (trying to save iTunes library and other stuff) after running her's with no AV protection. At this point in time, I'll keep using an AV and see how things go.

I'm trying Bitdefender free right now.

Gotcha, mine are still pretty young, and my oldest (11) spends most of his computer time on his tablet, but I know my day will come!

Edit: You might want to try a trial of the latest version of NIS. A have a guy I do computer work for who insists on using it. It actually doesn't run too bad (once I got him off his ancient desktop) and it gives you control over quite a few things.
 
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John Connor

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Bitdefender free is good too. I use to use it, but when I tried Panda Cloud my boot times went way up.
 

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It says right there on the add-ons manager. Extensions are stuff like adbock plus, plugins are stuff like flash.

How can people still mix those two together? Jeez...
 

Engineer

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It says right there on the add-ons manager. Extensions are stuff like adbock plus, plugins are stuff like flash.

How can people still mix those two together? Jeez...

Because some of us are posting from memory and not in front of the PC when posting. Jeez...... :rolleyes:

If that is the only contribution that you can add to the thread, then stay the hell out of it.
 

Engineer

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Update: Versions of AVG ending in 4662 (not released yet that I can find) or higher will correct this issue.
 

Buddy2

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Very very good Engineer!
I had the same problem a few weeks ago that I have now solved thanks to you.
I'll wait for some time that AVG fixes this bug, otherwise I will change antivirus.
Again, thank you.
 

sm625

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How do guys make it so the screen doesn't go to standby when playing html5 videos? This has kept me from switching to html5 with youtube.

In 2012 I wrote a script that checks for audio output in addition to mouse/kb activity before putting the computer to sleep. I use this script on all my machines, and set the normal windows sleep/display off to large values, like 2 hours.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33417315&postcount=6

That thread has all the information you need to install, compile, and change the sleep time. It is currently set to 10 minutes.
 
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Engineer

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Very very good Engineer!
I had the same problem a few weeks ago that I have now solved thanks to you.
I'll wait for some time that AVG fixes this bug, otherwise I will change antivirus.
Again, thank you.

You're welcome. I've since moved to Avast Free edition but have been following this. So far, I've seen no new release from AVG. I think this is quite a bad bug, especially in homes that have download caps. Not sure why AVG hasn't updated this bug yet.
 

Mem

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You're welcome. I've since moved to Avast Free edition but have been following this. So far, I've seen no new release from AVG. I think this is quite a bad bug, especially in homes that have download caps. Not sure why AVG hasn't updated this bug yet.


Might be awhile before they update,latest official version of AVG 2014 Free is 2014.0.4592 which I've on one of my PCs.
 

Engineer

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Might be awhile before they update,latest official version of AVG 2014 Free is 2014.0.4592 which I've on one of my PCs.

There is an update (posted in one of the threads that I posted above) that has a link to a BETA version that has the fix (need to register). There is no official full blown release yet though.