PJABBER Stop talking with yourself, Moonbeam. You are freaking us out.
I'll have a conversation with you. How about that?
M: Well OK, but I may need to tell myself something along the way.
P: Kids almost all start off fine. They are dependent both before and after birth and they remain dependent for a very long time. To survive they have to bond and have the parents bond with them. Our survival as a species is dependent on how well such bonding goes and it seems to have evolved into a protracted period of parenting, maybe to excess when we see dependencies past puberty.
M: The price of a huge plastic brain that early on goes through a birth canal.
P: Most kids and parents are quite loving. There are always going to the exceptional sociopath/psychopath bad seeds. It is best to deal even with these kids with a nurturing approach. In the case of adults society must remove the miscreant parents from that responsibility as soon as the problems are discovered. The identification and response process is very difficult, however.
M: This is the common belief. But because we are blind to our self hate we teach it to our kids without realizing or meaning to. You can't know this if you haven't done the work it takes to know.
P: The society of kids is very animalistic. There are pecking orders and dominance games which I think are instinctual remnants of survival mechanisms. You are free to think these are societal or family produced, but I kind of get the impression the universality means it is a base human characteristic.
M: The mechanism of transmission of the sickness of self hate is language. Helen Keller, bless her heart, did not learn early how to be sick.
P: Early on it is the control mechanisms of family and school socialization which tame the somewhat savage beast, impose rules of ordered behavior and reinforce both positive and negative behaviors. Kids aren't completely blank slates but they are certainly picking up behavioral cues all the time.
M: We are manipulated by the threat of the withdrawal of love if we don't behave, with put downs that when we act as is natural, we are worthless.
We are trained moneys and savage failures to adjust to our cages. This is what we call civilization.
P: The societal requirement should be that academic environments be supportive of the learning process. In fact, with the dissolution of the unitary family (thanks libs!), they are many times substitute parents and they fail at this function.
M: We all fail because we all transmit our self hate. Again this will be invisible to you.
P: I would really like to see the justification for the purchase of short barrel combat shotguns by the DoE. Departmental security forces? Where are they deployed? DoE facilities in DC probably.
I don't see how they would be deployed in local school systems, security responsibilities there are done by locals.
M: I haven't the faintest idea. The weapon of choice for killing kids is put downs.