Solve this mystery... why does the Dept. of Education need shotguns?

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Now if they'd just distribute those weapons to the individual schools, and use them to shotgun-whip (can't really say pistol-whip here) problem students, we might actually see an improvement to our education system.
 

PJABBER

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Hmmm. 14" barrels and ghost rings. Guess they are looking forward to close in action. Clearing classrooms?

HSH
 
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Moonbeam

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Hmmm. 14" barrels and ghost rings. Guess they are looking forward to close in action. Clearing classrooms?

HSH

I thought that could be done just by teaching

Stop being a jerk, Moonbeam. Children were born with a love and will to learn. It us who destroy them and that love. This endless slander of the young because they tell us how badly we failed them only makes correcting the problem worse.

But one thing you do make clear and it is that we have this suppressed desire to blow them away rather than see it's us that are destroying them in other ways.
 

PJABBER

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Stop being a jerk, Moonbeam. Children were born with a love and will to learn. It us who destroy them and that love. This endless slander of the young because they tell us how badly we failed them only makes correcting the problem worse.

But one thing you do make clear and it is that we have this suppressed desire to blow them away rather than see it's us that are destroying them in other ways.

Stop talking with yourself, Moonbeam. You are freaking us out.

I'll have a conversation with you. How about that?

Kids almost all start off fine. They are dependent both before and after birth and they remain dependent for a very long time. To survive they have to bond and have the parents bond with them. Our survival as a species is dependent on how well such bonding goes and it seems to have evolved into a protracted period of parenting, maybe to excess when we see dependencies past puberty.

Most kids and parents are quite loving. There are always going to the exceptional sociopath/psychopath bad seeds. It is best to deal even with these kids with a nurturing approach. In the case of adults society must remove the miscreant parents from that responsibility as soon as the problems are discovered. The identification and response process is very difficult, however.

The society of kids is very animalistic. There are pecking orders and dominance games which I think are instinctual remnants of survival mechanisms. You are free to think these are societal or family produced, but I kind of get the impression the universality means it is a base human characteristic.

Early on it is the control mechanisms of family and school socialization which tame the somewhat savage beast, impose rules of ordered behavior and reinforce both positive and negative behaviors. Kids aren't completely blank slates but they are certainly picking up behavioral cues all the time.

The societal requirement should be that academic environments be supportive of the learning process. In fact, with the dissolution of the unitary family (thanks libs!), they are many times substitute parents and they fail at this function.

I would really like to see the justification for the purchase of short barrel combat shotguns by the DoE. Departmental security forces? Where are they deployed? DoE facilities in DC probably.

I don't see how they would be deployed in local school systems, security responsibilities there are done by locals.