what do you guys think of solid state hard drives instead of these hard drives with moving parts that break down faster and arent as fast. solid state like those usb drives as a hard drive would be awesome. just need to make a standard so you can connect it direct to the mobo. i think thats the future of hard drives as soon as we can pack more gigabytes into a smaller space. i know it woud be really hard to get the big capacity such as 300gb, but maybe 70gb for a OS drive and use the other type of hard drive for other types. Think it sounds good, or problems with it?
solid state hard drives?
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The main problem right now with solid state hard drives is just the price. They are extremely expensive, but like you said, no moving parts, and they are a good bit faster. They already exist in case you didn't know, but I saw one that was like 40gb for $12,000..eventualy as technology advances, they will become common place, and affordable.
too expansive, take an example would be the Gigabyte i-ram. currently they're still using ram as storage, it's not reliable but it's good enough for an OS.
well, hard drives are a lot more reliable if you take a closer look, they are still growing faster. we all know that nomatter if it's a solid state or moving parts, it still have their life spin limit.
well, hard drives are a lot more reliable if you take a closer look, they are still growing faster. we all know that nomatter if it's a solid state or moving parts, it still have their life spin limit.
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Another problem with solid state is that memory chips wear out after a few million transfers.
While it may sound like a lot, you'd actually reach that goal pretty quickly if you used the solid state disk as your OS disk.
If they fix that problem, then the technology could hit the general public. Until then... I wouldn't count on it.
While it may sound like a lot, you'd actually reach that goal pretty quickly if you used the solid state disk as your OS disk.
If they fix that problem, then the technology could hit the general public. Until then... I wouldn't count on it.
Unless they come out with a technology using our current RAM, like the Gigabyte iRam. he only problem with the iRam is that it holds around 4GB Max. Imagine if they came out with a solution that could use 32GB. But then again, that would probably be around $5000-$10000 by the time you end up purchasing all the RAM needed for that configuration.
There are a couple companies out there that make solid state storage, and they are not limited to a write capacity like USB thumb drives. The units are extremly expensive, and are only meant to be used in the server world with large databases that have 300+ accesses constantly. Imaging using one of those in your basement for a NAS
People have been thinking SS hard drives are the future for over a decade, and we are no closer now to that than we were back then. Solid state drives as we think of them today, will likely never be mainstream, because by the time they become practical (which I doubt they ever will, certainly not for mass storage) something better will probably have surfaced to replace the standard winchester design of today.
Also keep in mind that there are a whole slew of different types of solid state drives with different characteristics and performance levels. Those USB thumb drives, for example, would make awful hard drive replacements, as their performance level is well below that of a standard SATA hard drive.
Also keep in mind that there are a whole slew of different types of solid state drives with different characteristics and performance levels. Those USB thumb drives, for example, would make awful hard drive replacements, as their performance level is well below that of a standard SATA hard drive.
I remember reading up on technologies such as IBM's MRAM and what not; but most of it, while exciting, just isn't going to be ready any time soon - and by ready I mean to bump current HDDs as LCDs have for CRTs. Heck, I think we'll have an alternative/replacement for LCDs before we have realistic alternatives to our harddrives.
We seem to be about to be offered a mix of the two though. As in, a normal hard drive, with a reasonably sized chunk of flash memory acting as a sort of buffer. Not just like a 16mb buffer, as we have now, but a much bigger slab of flash memory to store most used files etc for quick loading and so on.
Can't remember where I read about them though , hybrid drives, hmm, I'm sure Google will know.
Can't remember where I read about them though , hybrid drives, hmm, I'm sure Google will know.
i guess we wont be using this technology for a long time. it would have been really nice though. everything you do on the computer would be so much faster now that your transfer speed is ridiculous. i guess its just a good dream for now, the raptor will just have to do for now.
pfft. compare the SS technology 10 years ago to the SS technology of today then get back w/ us about how nothing's changed. I'm not saying your overall thesis is necessarily wrong but to say nothing's changed is very wrong.
There have been some manufacturers coming out with about 1-2 gig of solid state storage using RAM. May not seem like much but if you could use that as a buffer some programs would run a lot faster. It might be possible to approach the speed of Cache Memory whith PCI-E and a small solid state device.
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solid state looks like it can develop to be a breakthrough technology (as used in computer hard drives). Samsung has a 32gb memory chip in development... price? ~$8000...
in any case, though, solid state is here to stay... and possibly there to break new ground.
in any case, though, solid state is here to stay... and possibly there to break new ground.
DDR Drive is paper launch.. plus you can't move it to another PC if needed, since you need to disconnect the power and there isn't onboard battery...
Samsungs Solid state are shipping already.. 32 gb was around 1k not 8000
Samsungs Solid state are shipping already.. 32 gb was around 1k not 8000
I didn't say nothing has changed, I said it is no closer to being practical than it was back then. If we were still using 3600RPM 500MB hard drives today, then SS would be well on its way to being mainstream. SS technology has certainly improved, but so has the technology of the hard drives it's been rumoured to replace. Though solid state drives have dropped considerably in price, I bet you standard hard drives have dropped more over the same period of time when comparing price per MB. When a sub $500 32+GB nonvolatile ram drive using a standard HD interface becomes available let me know, and we can revisit the SS drives are no more practical now than they were back then comment.
Samsung unveils 32GB Flash hard drive, March 22, 2006
"Based on the company's own 50nm architecture and 3D transistor structure, the drive uses 16 2GB chips and is promised for production later this year."
How is Samsung shipping a product that hasn't gone into production yet?
Samsung also reportedly has been shipping a 16GB version since last September. Anyone seen one of those? If this new 32GB version is as ubiquitous as the 16GB drive, we should all be getting them free in our mailboxes soon like AOL CD's.
Here's a glowing article on those Samsung drives and SSD drives in gerneral:
Loser: Too Little, Too Soon -Samsung's solid-state disks will be puny, pricey, and impractical
Here's a glowing article on those Samsung drives and SSD drives in gerneral:
Loser: Too Little, Too Soon -Samsung's solid-state disks will be puny, pricey, and impractical
a guy at work has a 16gb model and loves it. I think it's pretty cool too - look, I can't afford one either.. but what's w/ you and the SS hate? you're being really defensive for no reason
yea SS is expensive but you pay a premium price for a premium product. its not a new concept. eventually in time, the price will go down. SS would make an awesome OS hard drive. and thats what i would like to see. because ill use a hard drive for all my other crap.
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