Soldier Gets 110-Years For Rape & Murder Of 14-Year Old Iraqi Girl

[Kwaipie]

What a horrible stigma to place on his fellow soldiers over there doing a very difficult task. This guy didn't learn this behavior in Iraq, maybe our glorious military commanders can do a bit more evaluating before letting these men get put into the toughest situation in their lives. The military justice system has failed in this case.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: Kwaipie
What a horrible stigma to place on his fellow soldiers over there doing a very difficult task. This guy didn't learn this behavior in Iraq, maybe our glorious military commanders can do a bit more evaluating before letting these men get put into the toughest situation in their lives. The military justice system has failed in this case.

Well of course the military doesn't teach the troops to murder and rape little kids and their families, but the military does teach troops to dehumanize the population so they'll be more effective in the battlefield.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: laFiera
I'm sure a few of these military rapists will be coming back to usa, and will surely make outstanding police officers in a neighborhood near you

More idiotic "I hate police" bullshit. Is this seriously something people believe on here?

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: laFiera
I'm sure a few of these military rapists will be coming back to usa, and will surely make outstanding police officers in a neighborhood near you

More idiotic "I hate police" bullshit. Is this seriously something people believe on here?

In San Diego in the late 60's and early 70's there were dozens of Marines that had returned from Vietnam that took jobs with the San Diego Police Force.
There were hundreds od incidents where these Ex-Military-now cops just plain beat the holy shit of anyone that they stopped who had long hair.
The whole problem was exposed when they beat - and left for dead - some old people, who when they recovered remembered the badge numbers.
Jimmie Rodgers who sang 'Honeycomb' met a similar fate - beat to a pulp on the roadside and left in his car, he recovered as well.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: laFiera
I'm sure a few of these military rapists will be coming back to usa, and will surely make outstanding police officers in a neighborhood near you

More idiotic "I hate police" bullshit. Is this seriously something people believe on here?

In San Diego in the late 60's and early 70's there were dozens of Marines that had returned from Vietnam that took jobs with the San Diego Police Force.
There were hundreds od incidents where these Ex-Military-now cops just plain beat the holy shit of anyone that they stopped who had long hair.
The whole problem was exposed when they beat - and left for dead - some old people, who when they recovered remembered the badge numbers.
Jimmie Rodgers who sang 'Honeycomb' met a similar fate - beat to a pulp on the roadside and left in his car, he recovered as well.

Ok im convinced. You win. If 50 years ago some police officers (likely suffering from PTSD after 'Nam) did some bad things, then I believe that today all police officers are bad people.

Thanks for setting me straight!

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: johnnobts
the murder thing i actually glanced over, yeah, 10 years is way too lenient. death by lethal injection on that one. though ironically, the girl may have been stoned to death by her family anyway, what with the barbaric muslim practice of honor killing.

that's shariya, and it is law only in Saudi Arabia...not Iraq

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
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Anybody else a little bit appalled that someone who participated in the rape and murder of a 14 year old girl and her family will be eligible for parole after 10 years?

I'm not sure what to make of this?

He did NOT participate in the crime other than standing "guard" and he gets 110 yrs. Somebody else in that group got only 5 yrs. Who could have done less than him?

It's not even clear if he knew what the others planned.

I'm more concerbed about the senatnces of ythose who actually participated in the rape and murders.

Fern

 

[SilthDraeth]

This guy didn't do the raping. Though he is guilty of being there and not doing anything. I guess he could of killed his fellow soldiers, thus saving the girl and her family...or got himself killed by them well trying to save the girl and her family.

Who knows, but it says he didn't actually do any of the raping or killing, he was just there, and did nothing to stop it.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: SilthDraeth
This guy didn't do the raping. Though he is guilty of being there and not doing anything. I guess he could of killed his fellow soldiers, thus saving the girl and her family...or got himself killed by them well trying to save the girl and her family.

Who knows, but it says he didn't actually do any of the raping or killing, he was just there, and did nothing to stop it.

He, along with his fellow troops, planned the rape and murder. He accompanied them to the scene of the crime, stood lookout, watched as the brutal crimes occurred, and was complicit in the cover-up.

In any state of the union, he's guilty of rape and murder.

 

[SilthDraeth]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: SilthDraeth
This guy didn't do the raping. Though he is guilty of being there and not doing anything. I guess he could of killed his fellow soldiers, thus saving the girl and her family...or got himself killed by them well trying to save the girl and her family.

Who knows, but it says he didn't actually do any of the raping or killing, he was just there, and did nothing to stop it.

He, along with his fellow troops, planned the rape and murder. He accompanied them to the scene of the crime, stood lookout, watched as the brutal crimes occurred, and was complicit in the cover-up.

In any state of the union, he's guilty of rape and murder.

Perhaps. But then this is the military that covers up just about everything.

 

[manowar821]

What a waste of space and tax dollars, these rapists are. Why don't we just take them out back and shoot them in the head like they did to the family? Make them strip beforehand too, just to make it fair.

I have no sympathy for rapists or former rapists. Parole? F-ING WOW.

This isn't exclusive to the military, though. The entire US judicial system is out of whack. There are people caught with weed that get more than 10 years, even if they were keeping it for themselves.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: SilthDraeth
This guy didn't do the raping. Though he is guilty of being there and not doing anything. I guess he could of killed his fellow soldiers, thus saving the girl and her family...or got himself killed by them well trying to save the girl and her family.

Who knows, but it says he didn't actually do any of the raping or killing, he was just there, and did nothing to stop it.

He, along with his fellow troops, planned the rape and murder.

There's evidence above that he did not plan the rape or murder. Planning? He is said above to not even have been aware of it. Being aware of plans != actually planning anyway.

IMO, if he's as innocent as he claims, he was in one heck of a bad situation.

I suppose it possible he thought he was going on a legitimate mission. While not in the military (maybe someone who is can comment), I suspect that you do not just leave the base/camp with your weapons and in a group without any questions whatsoever. Likely they did lie about the purpose of their mission to at least some people.

So if he wasn't "in on it" what's he gonna do? Single-handedly stop the others? That's unlikely. Turn them in the next day? That's prolly just as "deadly"

Given his rather passive role, I do not see why he has the stiffest penalty. Perhaps military prosecuters do NOT like it when you proclaim your innocense?

Fern

 

[SilthDraeth]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: SilthDraeth
This guy didn't do the raping. Though he is guilty of being there and not doing anything. I guess he could of killed his fellow soldiers, thus saving the girl and her family...or got himself killed by them well trying to save the girl and her family.

Who knows, but it says he didn't actually do any of the raping or killing, he was just there, and did nothing to stop it.

He, along with his fellow troops, planned the rape and murder.

There's evidence above that he did not plan the rape or murder. Planning? He is said above to not even have been aware of it. Being aware of plans != actually planning anyway.

IMO, if he's as innocent as he claims, he was in one heck of a bad situation.

I suppose it possible he thought he was going on a legitimate mission. While not in the military (maybe someone who is can comment), I suspect that you do not just leave the base/camp with your weapons and in a group without any questions whatsoever. Likely they did lie about the purpose of their mission to at least some people.

So if he wasn't "in on it" what's he gonna do? Single-handedly stop the others? That's unlikely. Turn them in the next day? That's prolly just as "deadly"

Given his rather passive role, I do not see why he has the stiffest penalty. Perhaps military prosecuters do NOT like it when you proclaim your innocense?

Fern

That is what I read, and what I based my thoughts on. But who really knows?

 

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