Software to copy IPODS

imported_KuJaX

Platinum Member
May 29, 2004
2,428
0
0
Hey guys,

I have a 40 gig Ipod here with quite a few songs on it. ;) My brother has recently purchased a 40 gig Ipod, and wanted me to just copy over everything. Does anyone know a specific piece of software that would do this best? Or what is the best way of doing this? Thanks to anyone whom can help!

 

igowerf

Diamond Member
Jun 27, 2000
7,697
1
76
I don't think you can get songs off an ipod unless you store them as regular data.
 

dbk

Lifer
Apr 23, 2004
17,685
10
81
Does iTunes detect two iPods? If it does, couldn't you just drag and copy? Otherwise, I'd say copy it from your iPod to your HD then from there to your brother's iPod.
 

imported_KuJaX

Platinum Member
May 29, 2004
2,428
0
0
is it at all possible to just open up the IPOD in explorer, copy the entire thing, to my harddrive. Then plug in my brothers IPOD in, and copy the contents from my hard-drive into his IPOD?
 

Gurck

Banned
Mar 16, 2004
12,963
1
0
Originally posted by: KuJaX
is it at all possible to just open up the IPOD in explorer, copy the entire thing, to my harddrive. Then plug in my brothers IPOD in, and copy the contents from my hard-drive into his IPOD?

No, due to copy protection features. This would be possible with two iRivers though...
 

kamper

Diamond Member
Mar 18, 2003
5,513
0
0
It used to be possible to do with iTunes through a plugin (read here). So if you have an older copy of iTunes you might be able to do it.

Gurck, could you expand on the copy protection features? I figured it would be worth it for him to try a simple file copy but, there's something standing in the way of that?
 

Gurck

Banned
Mar 16, 2004
12,963
1
0
Originally posted by: kamper
It used to be possible to do with iTunes through a plugin (read here). So if you have an older copy of iTunes you might be able to do it.

Gurck, could you expand on the copy protection features? I figured it would be worth it for him to try a simple file copy but, there's something standing in the way of that?

Basically, you can think of iPods as having two different directories - one for whatever you want to put on it, in regular file formats, and one for music which can only be accessed by iTunes and unsupported third-party software such as ephpod. Each directory's size is variable, though combined they can of course hold only what the particular iPod model's capacity is. Files in the regular file directory can be freely manipulated, copied, moved, etc., but if you put music files there the iPod will not play them. Music files in the music directory (which the iPod will play) are under tighter restrictions, and trying to copy them has often resulted in people having their entire iPod drive deleted. I'm not sure what the exact rules are for this (nor do I care, as I'd never buy an iPod after doing my homework on them). Don't get me wrong - I'm all for the ideal of copy protection - however in practice it just seems to hurt legitimate consumers while pirates laugh, easily get around it, and continue to do their thing.

I have two PCs. Suppose I put a lossless CD which I own onto my digital player, using my main rig. I then decide I'd rather have it in mp3, but my main rig is now busy encoding a DVD, or is off and I don't want to bother booting it up, or is in the middle of a repair or cleaning, etc... so I plug my player into my HTPC to encode it to mp3, delete the lossless, and put the mp3 version on it. With an iRiver or iAudio, I can do this no problem. With an iPod, 1) I can't do that and 2) I'm running the risk of having everything on my iPod, both music and files, deleted thanks to copy protection. Trying to manipulate music which I own. This is why I'm against what copy protection, in practice, does - it takes away your freedom.

This is just one reason of many why the iPod is a bad choice, but it's beyond the scope of this thread to comment more in depth on that.
 

kamper

Diamond Member
Mar 18, 2003
5,513
0
0
But if the iPod is mounted as an external drive, independently of iTunes, then how is it going to stop you from copying the files from any part of the drive? I guess I don't understand external drives that well, but I thought file system manipulation was still handled entirely by the host computer.
 

imported_KuJaX

Platinum Member
May 29, 2004
2,428
0
0
hrmm i am confused as well. I can get a version of itunes from oldversion.com but I cannot find that plugin. any help?
 

Gurck

Banned
Mar 16, 2004
12,963
1
0
Originally posted by: kamper
But if the iPod is mounted as an external drive, independently of iTunes, then how is it going to stop you from copying the files from any part of the drive? I guess I don't understand external drives that well, but I thought file system manipulation was still handled entirely by the host computer.

Not sure exactly how it does it, probably some sort of encryption when iTunes puts music onto the iPod, ie. perhaps you could move the files, but they wouldn't be mp3s, they'd be some format unknown to windows, linux, and osx - and not simply renamed either.