Software Testers Wanted

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: Capp00
Beta Testing

*I need someone who has a decent pc based network to test this out. I have 5 pc's at home but that isn't enough to really put it to the test.
*I want someone that is willing to update me on usability and any bugs that may be found.
*I want someone that can provide positive feedback about recommendations/suggestions (i.e. not "Your program sucks")

By Beta testing this, I will allow the tester to use the program for free until the end of the year.

Part of the grief you're getting is that this is a commercial enterprise rather than open-source. You're asking people to volunteer their time for free, to help you make money.

Once they volunteer time, you're not even giving them a permanent license, only free use during the beta period where the product doesn't work reliably.

Companies act as unpaid beta testers for Microsoft only because they already are planning to buy or already have an ongoing license for the product, and if not a 1.0 they already use the prior version.

I was posting to see if anybody out there, that actually had a job with a few networked computers, would be able to use this software. If so, then I would allow them to test it for me and use it for free. I don't want anybody to test it just for the sheer fact of testing it. That wouldn't do me any good. I am offering for a working environment.

Makes sense, but that wasn't in the original post and we're a cynical bunch here.

 

[Capp00]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Part of the grief you're getting is that this is a commercial enterprise rather than open-source. You're asking people to volunteer their time for free, to help you make money.

Once they volunteer time, you're not even giving them a permanent license, only free use during the beta period where the product doesn't work reliably.

Companies act as unpaid beta testers for Microsoft only because they already are planning to buy or already have an ongoing license for the product, and if not a 1.0 they already use the prior version.

Well, I aplogize, I'm expand my business. I run the company by myself and did all the programming for the software myself. My pockets are not deep so that is why I am asking for "Volunteers" The beta testing is only going on through the end of september, so they would have 3 months (not long i know) of a free license. Plus, I was going to give them the free upgrade to the full release to use, not just the beta version.

[/quote] Makes sense, but that wasn't in the original post and we're a cynical bunch here.[/quote]


So i've noticed

I just thought someone out there that works in an office environment mind find this useful, and would want to use it for free.

 

[daniel49]

On the posative side , your up to 14 posts now

 

[razor2025]

Right.. 3 months worth of liscence if things are rosy. I think if you can't afford to hire beta-tester, you should sweeten your liscencing deal for the testers. If you give out sweeter rewards, they will be more willing people offering their service. 3 months of liscence is simply.. meh. Besides, if your product is well designed, it wouldn't hurt giving testers a long-term liscence(1-2 years). It'll be good source of advertisement through word-of-mouth, and if your tester base was small, it shouldn't saturate your potential market.

 

[Capp00]

Originally posted by: razor2025
Right.. 3 months worth of liscence if things are rosy. I think if you can't afford to hire beta-tester, you should sweeten your liscencing deal for the testers. If you give out sweeter rewards, they will be more willing people offering their service. 3 months of liscence is simply.. meh. Besides, if your product is well designed, it wouldn't hurt giving testers a long-term liscence(1-2 years). It'll be good source of advertisement through word-of-mouth, and if your tester base was small, it shouldn't saturate your potential market.

Well, I am willing to do that if people will stop being so bitchy about me swinging bags of cash towards them just to catch their interest. I have done 6 months worth of testing myself before I even mentioned someone else. I am just wanting to get someone who doesn't know how it is programmed to try it, because I can use it and abuse it all day long without it crashing.

As I stated, I might be willing to give a longer license, if I can get some cooperation.

 

[nweaver]

Sorry, I am a professional test (yes, I am a test engineer) and ppl pay lots of money for testing engagements. 8500 for 4 days of wireless certification testing, $230 consulting on testing methodologies and practices, designs, etc.

I am not asking you to pay me, I don't have time to test, and your post count has nothing to do with this. What I am saying is that having an end use say "It's broken when I hit yes" is much different then a detailed bug report stating "in this setup with these options we see this failure. It is also seen in setups 3, 5, and 9, and looks to be related to bug 2387 found last week. here is a debug dump and detailed documentation on the enviroment"

of course, most of my stuff is done pre beta (except for the wirless stuff, it's gotta be release level, as the specific driver rev is part of the cert)

Sorry if I miffed you, I didn't intend that, I was just pointing out that for true testing (stability, bugs, load) you need a professional to do the work.

 

[warcrow]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

Originally posted by: Capp00
Beta Testing

*I need someone who has a decent pc based network to test this out. I have 5 pc's at home but that isn't enough to really put it to the test.
*I want someone that is willing to update me on usability and any bugs that may be found.
*I want someone that can provide positive feedback about recommendations/suggestions (i.e. not "Your program sucks")

By Beta testing this, I will allow the tester to use the program for free until the end of the year.

Part of the grief you're getting is that this is a commercial enterprise rather than open-source. You're asking people to volunteer their time for free, to help you make money.

Once they volunteer time, you're not even giving them a permanent license, only free use during the beta period where the product doesn't work reliably.

Companies act as unpaid beta testers for Microsoft only because they already are planning to buy or already have an ongoing license for the product, and if not a 1.0 they already use the prior version.

I was posting to see if anybody out there, that actually had a job with a few networked computers, would be able to use this software. If so, then I would allow them to test it for me and use it for free. I don't want anybody to test it just for the sheer fact of testing it. That wouldn't do me any good. I am offering for a working environment.

Makes sense, but that wasn't in the original post and we're a cynical bunch here.

Well said Dave (as usual).

Look, Capp00, if you just would have come forward and said:

"Well, I aplogize, I'm expand my business. I run the company by myself and did all the programming for the software myself. My pockets are not deep so that is why I am asking for "Volunteers" The beta testing is only going on through the end of september, so they would have 3 months (not long i know) of a free license. Plus, I was going to give them the free upgrade to the full release to use, not just the beta version."

...I think our reaction would have been different. Yes, we're a tough crowd, but keep in mind you're also not the first person to come in here and ask this. We're just particular here in this forum.

 

[Capp00]

Well I do apologize for all the miscommunications.

If anybody is actually interested, please contact me and I'll work with them any way I can.

Thank You everyone

 

[Capp00]

Originally posted by: nweaver
Sorry, I am a professional test (yes, I am a test engineer) and ppl pay lots of money for testing engagements. 8500 for 4 days of wireless certification testing, $230 consulting on testing methodologies and practices, designs, etc.

I am not asking you to pay me, I don't have time to test, and your post count has nothing to do with this. What I am saying is that having an end use say "It's broken when I hit yes" is much different then a detailed bug report stating "in this setup with these options we see this failure. It is also seen in setups 3, 5, and 9, and looks to be related to bug 2387 found last week. here is a debug dump and detailed documentation on the enviroment"

of course, most of my stuff is done pre beta (except for the wirless stuff, it's gotta be release level, as the specific driver rev is part of the cert)

Sorry if I miffed you, I didn't intend that, I was just pointing out that for true testing (stability, bugs, load) you need a professional to do the work.

Thank you for your input. Fortunately, my program doesn't require that kind of testing. It doesn't have those kinds of errors because there is no setup involved. So, yes the kind of bug reporting I need is "It's broken when I hit yes" as you stated
I am working on 2 other projects as well that I may need that kind of professional testing because of how involved it is.

Thank you again