Software licensing question

[MrDudeMan]

You need to work in mass:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_average_Massachusetts_tollbooth_salary#page3

Geez. That is ridiculous.

 

[Leros]

When I was in college we had a few machines with a software package installed that cost $1million a year per user. It was some sort of ECE cad suite.

 

[Ns1]

You need to work in mass:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_average_Massachusetts_tollbooth_salary#page3

WTF

 

[lxskllr]

You need to work in mass:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_average_Massachusetts_tollbooth_salary#page3

I was trying to find a way to spin that so it makes sense(insurance, and other benefits included in total), but that still comes in way high.

 

[sdifox]

The government agency had to show you the contract because you are the licencee...or they can pay for that dismantlying fee since they failed to disclose it to your organization.

 

[Sho'Nuff]

I was trying to find a way to spin that so it makes sense(insurance, and other benefits included in total), but that still comes in way high.

Toll booth collectors union is strong in Mass.

There were reports in 2010 of some toll booth operators raking in 100k. Utter bullshit - especially because the whole system can and should be automated.

 

[Leopardos]

is it Bloomberg Terminal?

 

[edro]

Oracle

 

[Squisher]

They're billing us for the uninstall team @ $5k per man-day!
When we gave them notice of contract termination, that's what they sent in the "costs of termination" document.

The problem is our legal department can't do anything about it, because they don't have a copy of the contract! Basically, this is a typical government clusterfail. The contract with the vendor was made by a government department; effectively, this department bought the software for us, but we had to pay for it. However, we were not allowed to see the contract as it was "commercially confidential". The original department has now been disbanded, so another department has taken it over; but again, subject to the same confidentiality clause. Similarly, we have no negotiating power with the vendor as their contract isn't with us.

That is classic government bureaucracy/departmentalization at it finest.

 

[Mixolydian]

OP isn't going to tell us, is he?

 

[SunnyD]

OP isn't going to tell us, is he?

Given it's a government contract/contractor and he's already cited confidentiality issues in other aspects (licensing terms across departments), I thought the answer was fairly obvious.

Regardless, the old company is your typical government contractor/vendor leech. I'd not let them onto the site until the day of termination and tell them they they are more then welcome to AUDIT AT THEIR EXPENSE your systems to ensure that removal has been in compliance, since you don't seem to have access to the licensing terms. Or they can provide your legal department a copy of the original licensing terms for your company to ensure that the vendor are in compliance with the terms. Let them pick.

Odds are regardless that they will still make up bullshit service fees after the fact since they will no longer be raking in this cash cow of theirs and they're totally butthurt about it, which is why they are acting like douchebags in the first place. After all, you've taken their continuing revenue, plus you've cut their exit stream consulting revenue at the knees thanks to the new company helping export the data. They're trying to recoup something.

Note: IANAL, and this is a government contract. You really, absolutely need to get your legal department to grow some balls. You either need a copy of that contract or, well, you need a copy of that contract.

 

[mvbighead]

Wow, that is some truly, crazy, stuff.

Most of the stuff we deal with is purchased software, and you pay for support. Once you stop paying for support, you stop getting upgrades.

To me, if you've paid to use it till Y date, you should not have to remove it 14 days prior to Y. Removal starts once Y has expired, use stops once Y has expired.

Not a lawyer, but that just sounds like some pretty petty BS. If you buy an annual bus ticket, and don't renew, you still get to use up to the point it expires. This sounds like some pretty crazy shit.