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[smack Down]

C++ should die because standards body refuses to define any standard libaries.

 

[purbeast0]

eeeh crap. I cant install unless I get on SP2. Last time I tried to install SP2 it caused me to have to reformat my whole computer so I'm very hesitant to do so 🙁

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: purbeast0
eeeh crap. I cant install unless I get on SP2. Last time I tried to install SP2 it caused me to have to reformat my whole computer so I'm very hesitant to do so 🙁

I'm uninstalling Visual Studio 2005 Beta. I fired it up today, and the beta expired. No use keeping it on so I decided to uninstall. It's been uninstalling for 3 hours now... 🙁

 

[Descartes]

I will always love C and C++ as I have fond memories of both languages, but in working with C++ developers that only know C++ I can quite readily see that it's a dying breed. There will continue to be demand in embedded, gaming, and other performance-demanding sectors; however, I believe them to be all but completely gone in the business.

Platforms like .NET and Java allow the developer to think at a higher level of abstraction. This facilitates a greater ability to think in terms of the "softer" issues of software, namely communication and requirements derivation. The knowledge divide between the business and development is shrinking, and I believe it's in this space where tremendous value can be added by talented development. Unfortunately, most C++ developers are below this threshold and thus contribute mainly to technical rather than business value.

Also, the C Users Journal stopped printing. That's a decent indicator by itself.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: Rayden

Originally posted by: xtknight
C is still great for programming small apps (console though).

C++ I don't care for that much (though I don't care for any managed languages, it is just complicated bloat IMO (puts on flame suit)). I guess if you're going to code in C# you may as well code in VB.NET as it won't be much if any slower since both run on MSIL, is that not right?

I think you have little idea what managed code is. C++ is not managed. Managed means there is a garbage collector that takes care of memory stuff for you. Last I checked one still had to use malloc in C++. C++ is just C with objects.


And in response to the OP. I hope C++ is going the way of the dodo. I hate coding in it. So many nitpicky things one has to worry about that just gets in the way of me writing beautiful algorithms.

Actually C++ became a managed language at Visual Studio 2002.net
you can still write unmanaged code for use with MFC 7... but C++ is definately managed.
If you write managed c++ code, it also runs on the MSIL, however unmanaged code will still run natively.

 

[drinkmorejava]

C++ FTW, java is the devil. Maybe if they come out with a non-bytecode version I'll hate it less.