SoftBank’s Son Pledges $50B investment in U.S. After Trump Meeting

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I do find it funny that, as usual, Trump slaps his name on something someone else accomplished and his faithful lap it up and fawn all over him.
 

fskimospy

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What a stretch, why not just comment on your way to fix the supposed min wage problem instead of deflecting to a non apples to apples logic comparison.
No solution from you unless it's someone else pay for what you feel is necessary..

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It's an exact comparison. You think when someone advocates for a collective policy that instead they should fulfill that policy personally. I think that's a dumb idea, as shown by the military example.

So the answer to the 'problem' is to raise it collectively. Individual action on that front is a stupid idea.
 

agent00f

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What a stretch, why not just comment on your way to fix the supposed min wage problem instead of deflecting to a non apples to apples logic comparison.
No solution from you unless it's someone else pay for what you feel is necessary..

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If charity worked you wouldn't have to pay taxes.

I know you think you're smart and understand the previous sentence, but it'll look real embarrassing if turns out you don't, so really take the time to ruminate over it until you're feeling a lot smarter for having done so.
 

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It's an exact comparison. You think when someone advocates for a collective policy that instead they should fulfill that policy personally. I think that's a dumb idea, as shown by the military example.

So the answer to the 'problem' is to raise it collectively. Individual action on that front is a stupid idea.
I said get a group of you min wage/living wagers together and you can pitch in collectively to bring a solution to your so called min wage problem. There seems to be a lot of you out there. You can't save all of them, but hey one min wager saved at a time sounds pretty noble to me. Why not do something to further your cause than to cry for the rest of us who know better to be forced into your cause. Did the save the whales, rainforest and african children groups sir around and wait for the government to force it down everyone's throats? No, they actually did something. Why not go to Hollywood, who always likes to force their worthless opinions and have them sponsor something like "save the burger flipper"...etc...

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fskimospy

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I said get a group of you min wage/living wagers together and you can pitch in collectively to bring a solution to your so called min wage problem. There seems to be a lot of you out there. You can't save all of them, but hey one min wager saved at a time sounds pretty noble to me. Why not do something to further your cause than to cry for the rest of us who know better to be forced into your cause. Did the save the whales, rainforest and african children groups sir around and wait for the government to force it down everyone's throats? No, they actually did something. Why not go to Hollywood, who always likes to force their worthless opinions and have them sponsor something like "save the burger flipper"...etc...

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Okay so if you thought the Iraq war was a good idea then it should be you and a group of your friends invading. There were certainly plenty of Iraq war supporters.

See how this idea is still dumb?
 

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Okay so if you thought the Iraq war was a good idea then it should be you and a group of your friends invading. There were certainly plenty of Iraq war supporters.

See how this idea is still dumb?
So, at the time we were told weapons of mass destruction were in iraq, and they might be able to be used on us or allies. So let's see, being gassed or nuked, which i have no control over is the same as me being the fries guy and having total control over what type of work ethic i have so i can be promoted out of min wage.


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Softbank throws the Donald a PR bone? Of course.

I doubt that Trump or the meeting altered their plans at all.
Are you telling me you don't believe that this entire deal was hammered out from conception to close in 45 minutes?
 
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So, at the time we were told weapons of mass destruction were in iraq, and they might be able to be used on us or allies. So let's see, being gassed or nuked, which i have no control over is the same as me being the fries guy and having total control over what type of work ethic i have so i can be promoted out of min wage.


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Better yet, since we ate taking min wage. Why not link me some examples of that min wage worker who showed up to work on time every day, did everything his boss asked him to. Trained for his position and the next above him. Behaved at work as an example for others around him. Performed his job like he already had the position above him, you know the one that is NOT min wage. Why not discuss how employers DONT promote the best people they can. Why not link how employers are not in it for profit, but in it to hold down that better than average worker at all costs. Why would they want to promote that person to a position of more responsibility.
Instead, let's cite a war. Something the individual person has little to no control over. Let's NOT discuss individual responsibility. Which was the point of the post i made in the 1st place. You still have not realized that yet. Maybe your the fries guy?

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I'm not trying to say this is bad news, just keep the perspective that Sprints purchase of T-Mobile was denied. Soft Bank wants to expand its operations.
 
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I'm not trying to say this is bad news, just keep the perspective that Sprints purchase of T-Mobile was denied. Soft Bank wants to expand its operations.
well that and the "news" was announced months ago when SoftBank announced a total $100 Billion plan in conjunction with Saudi Arabia. This is directly in line with what they said back then.
 

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So, at the time we were told weapons of mass destruction were in iraq, and they might be able to be used on us or allies. So let's see, being gassed or nuked, which i have no control over is the same as me being the fries guy and having total control over what type of work ethic i have so i can be promoted out of min wage.

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What does any of this have to do with my point? If you thought it was a good idea for the US to do as a whole, according to your logic you should have just gone over there and invaded them personally instead of getting a bunch of people who didn't agree like me to do it for you.
 

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What does any of this have to do with my point? If you thought it was a good idea for the US to do as a whole, according to your logic you should have just gone over there and invaded them personally instead of getting a bunch of people who didn't agree like me to do it for you.
Once again stay on topic. Your comparing a war, something an individual has almost no ability to change individually, with the min wage, which every individual has the ability to change INDIVIDUALLY......
You're the one who compared the iraq war with minimum wage, not me. I am simply pointing out how ridiculous your comparison is.

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Once again stay on topic. Your comparing a war, something an individual has almost no ability to change individually, with the min wage, which every individual has the ability to change INDIVIDUALLY......
You're the one who compared the iraq war with minimum wage, not me. I am simply pointing out how ridiculous your comparison is.

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An individual has no ability to change the national minimum wage just like an individual has no ability to conquer a country by himself. You say you can change it for one person, maybe more? Sure. You can also kill one Iraqi soldier, maybe more, bringing Iraq ever so slightly closer to liberation.

The comparison is intentionally ridiculous to show you how silly what you're saying is. Public policy is PUBLIC for a reason, that reason being these issues can't be solved by one person alone. You want to ignore my example because it shows how bad your point is.
 

takiat

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An individual has no ability to change the national minimum wage just like an individual has no ability to conquer a country by himself. You say you can change it for one person, maybe more? Sure. You can also kill one Iraqi soldier, maybe more, bringing Iraq ever so slightly closer to liberation.

The comparison is intentionally ridiculous to show you how silly what you're saying is. Public policy is PUBLIC for a reason, that reason being these issues can't be solved by one person alone. You want to ignore my example because it shows how bad your point is.
An individual has no ability to change the minimum wage? Yes they do. The correct response is an individual has no ability to change "someone else's" minimum wage. Personal responsibility is the reward and punishment for both sides of itself.
I would argue if you are a person of responsibility, then the min wage has no effect on you. Since you have moved up and are not making min wage anymore.
Besides, if you are working for min wage, you assuredly qualify for government programs like food stamps.
Sorry, no big screen tvs for you but my taxes pay for you to eat at least.

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An individual has no ability to change the minimum wage? Yes they do. The correct response is an individual has no ability to change "someone else's" minimum wage. Personal responsibility is the reward and punishment for both sides of itself.
I would argue if you are a person of responsibility, then the min wage has no effect on you. Since you have moved up and are not making min wage anymore.
Besides, if you are working for min wage, you assuredly qualify for government programs like food stamps.
Sorry, no big screen tvs for you but my taxes pay for you to eat at least.

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You appear eminently qualified for the GOP brain trust.
 
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agent00f

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An individual has no ability to change the national minimum wage just like an individual has no ability to conquer a country by himself. You say you can change it for one person, maybe more? Sure. You can also kill one Iraqi soldier, maybe more, bringing Iraq ever so slightly closer to liberation.

The comparison is intentionally ridiculous to show you how silly what you're saying is. Public policy is PUBLIC for a reason, that reason being these issues can't be solved by one person alone. You want to ignore my example because it shows how bad your point is.

Your over/under on dodging vs. genuinely stupid?
 

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There's a big difference in creating a mercenary group vs collecting and distributing money... But the craziest thing is that what takiat is describing basically already exists with the different charities people support. Though I suppose mercenary/terrorists exist too so maybe the comparison has a little merit after all...
 

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Your over/under on dodging vs. genuinely stupid?
This is what career burger flippers do. They try to steal from hard working people so they don't have to work hard and can still get the stuff that hard work and sacrifice get you.
I have not seen one response arguing that personal responsibility nets you career min wage....just dodging and misdirection...
Typical leftists...

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agent00f

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This is what career burger flippers do. They try to steal from hard working people so they don't have to work hard and can still get the stuff that hard work and sacrifice get you.
I have not seen one response arguing that personal responsibility nets you career min wage....just dodging and misdirection...
Typical leftists...

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You ever been a beneficiary of white welfare like the defense related industry or rural gubmint subsidies and the like?
 

takiat

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You ever been a beneficiary of white welfare like the defense related industry or rural gubmint subsidies and the like?
No, i work hard for the money i recieve. If i don't produce results, i don't get to keep getting the level of money i receive for my contribution to the company.
I am personally responsible and not accepting anyone subsidizing me.

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You ever been a beneficiary of white welfare like the defense related industry or rural gubmint subsidies and the like?
See, when i was a kid with a newspaper route, or working in the summer filling Ice boxes at convenience stores, i learned that people who do their jobs well get to move up and make more money. I didn't become lazy and start a living wage crusade. I just worked hard and got promoted.....

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agent00f

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No, i work hard for the money i recieve. If i don't produce results, i don't get to keep getting the level of money i receive for my contribution to the company.
I am personally responsible and not accepting anyone subsidizing me.

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Your parents must've been relatively well off to afford those schools.