Socket T (LGA 775) vs. Socket 478

[dashiki]

if this person went to get a quote from a local dealer I doubt she is roaming forums looking for dual core s478 is more than enough for anyone who isn't looking for a $1500+ gamer. business apps, email/web will be fine on any s478 and all 2d apps would run fine.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Googer
Acording to Anandtech Dual Core may be doomed!

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2343

As I read it, the article doesn't say anything indicating that. How did you come to that conclusion from the article?

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Googer
Acording to Anandtech Dual Core may be doomed!

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2343

As I read it, the article doesn't say anything indicating that. How did you come to that conclusion from the article?

I am just quoting the Author: From ANANDtech.com Homepage

The Quest for More Processing Power, Part One: "Is the single core CPU doomed?"
cpuchipsets - February 8, 2005
Why did Prescott really fail? Will Multi-Core CPUs really be an answer to our performance prayers? What will future..

http://members.aol.com/googersmith/anandtech.png
So don't shoot the messanger.

 

[narcotic]

I know you asked about 775 or 478, but why not try and talk some sense into here and get her socket 939, which is best bang for the buck, and unless you're getting fx-55, she'll have plenty to upgrade to in the future. but that's only what I think...

 

[Rock Hydra]

I think the new dual core CPUS run on LGA 775, it's just the CHIPSETS that are out currently don't support dual core CPUs was how it was worded. Just because you need a new board, doesn't mean that it's not the same socket.

 

[wisdomtooth]

Having two cores on a single package is essentially having TWO CPUs. That means an increase in the number of pinouts is necessary for the additional signal lines required for the second CPU. And that means a new socket.

Yeah, there might be some dual-core engineering samples hobbled to work with the limitations of Socket 775, but production dual cores? Not likely.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Googer
Acording to Anandtech Dual Core may be doomed!

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2343

As I read it, the article doesn't say anything indicating that. How did you come to that conclusion from the article?

I am just quoting the Author: From ANANDtech.com Homepage

The Quest for More Processing Power, Part One: "Is the single core CPU doomed?"
cpuchipsets - February 8, 2005
Why did Prescott really fail? Will Multi-Core CPUs really be an answer to our performance prayers? What will future..

http://members.aol.com/googersmith/anandtech.png
So don't shoot the messanger.

The title says "Is the single core CPU doomed", I'm not sure where you're getting dual out of that.:Q

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: Googer
Acording to Anandtech Dual Core may be doomed!

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2343

As I read it, the article doesn't say anything indicating that. How did you come to that conclusion from the article?

I am just quoting the Author: From ANANDtech.com Homepage

The Quest for More Processing Power, Part One: "Is the single core CPU doomed?"
cpuchipsets - February 8, 2005
Why did Prescott really fail? Will Multi-Core CPUs really be an answer to our performance prayers? What will future..

http://members.aol.com/googersmith/anandtech.png
So don't shoot the messanger.

The title says "Is the single core CPU doomed", I'm not sure where you're getting dual out of that.:Q

Thanks for making that point, I am dislexic. :shocked:

 

[stevty2889]

I would go LGA775 with PCI-E, since at least you'll be able to keep the video card for the next upgrade. I wouldn't go more than a 3.2 or 3.4, as the 3.6 or 3.8 will be very difficult to keep cool. I had to go to water cooling to keep my 3.4 from throttling..maybe one with an E0 stepping won't be as bad. Also the motherboards that support EM64T should be showing up, and the 64bit enabled P4's are starting to show up as well.

 

[imported_Phil]

Good grief, just get her a decent Intel 865 board, with a Celeron 2.8GHz or P4 3.0Ghz (non-Prescott), and she'll be more than satisfied. Heck, she wouldn't even notice the difference between a 2.0Ghz and 3.6Ghz if she's doing basic office/email stuff, and it's a huge waste of money.

Plus, upgradability? In this day and age? Don't make me laugh. By the time she wants to upgrade, she'll have to change everything, and that'll be a good few years down the road yet.

Bottom line: Intel board (D865-GVSRL should do it, Video, Sound, LAN onboard), 2.8Ghz Celeron/P4 Northwood, 256Mb-512Mb value PC3200, 40Gb HD, CDRW drive, bosh. Done.

 

[jose]

Neither ............................

Intel's dual core processors WON'T work w/ 915/925 based motherboards.....

Get her a socket 478 P4C processor w/ a 865/875 chipset motherboards. Save her some money, because currently w/ Intel , upgradablity means buying a new processor/motherboard/ram....

She might be interested in a SFF type system. ie Solatek 875 case w/ a 3.0C w/ 1 gig of ram, Nec3500a, 160g seagate sata hd. just add a nice 17" LCD
Don't forget to show her the pics on newegg of the Solatek 875 case, hmm nice .... Don't forget put a 6600GT in the system so she can play D3 & HL2.

Just explain how fast systems change nowadays, especially w/ Intel.. Point out the benefits of AMD's new 939 systems, 64bit addressing , dual-core , etc...

Regards,
Jose

 

[wisdomtooth]

Exactamundo. For the daily user, they don't want to deal with emerging technologies that still havent' had all the bugs ironed out yet, and that includes Press-hotts, EM64t, PCI Express, DDR2, and whatever else the stopgap short-lifespan Socket-775/T is for.

Minimal gain for premium price.

The soundest upgrade path is to just stick with a mature 478 system until the next generation stuff matures, and buy into the new architecture then.

 

[Oblivious]

Originally posted by: Dopefiend
Good grief, just get her a decent Intel 865 board, with a Celeron 2.8GHz or P4 3.0Ghz (non-Prescott), and she'll be more than satisfied. Heck, she wouldn't even notice the difference between a 2.0Ghz and 3.6Ghz if she's doing basic office/email stuff, and it's a huge waste of money.

Plus, upgradability? In this day and age? Don't make me laugh. By the time she wants to upgrade, she'll have to change everything, and that'll be a good few years down the road yet.

Bottom line: Intel board (D865-GVSRL should do it, Video, Sound, LAN onboard), 2.8Ghz Celeron/P4 Northwood, 256Mb-512Mb value PC3200, 40Gb HD, CDRW drive, bosh. Done.

I completely agree. I seriously doubt that this elderly co-worker will be doing any hardware intensive processes or some hardcore gaming. Build her a decent internet box and that's all she really needs.

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: Oblivious

Originally posted by: Dopefiend
Good grief, just get her a decent Intel 865 board, with a Celeron 2.8GHz or P4 3.0Ghz (non-Prescott), and she'll be more than satisfied. Heck, she wouldn't even notice the difference between a 2.0Ghz and 3.6Ghz if she's doing basic office/email stuff, and it's a huge waste of money.

Plus, upgradability? In this day and age? Don't make me laugh. By the time she wants to upgrade, she'll have to change everything, and that'll be a good few years down the road yet.

Bottom line: Intel board (D865-GVSRL should do it, Video, Sound, LAN onboard), 2.8Ghz Celeron/P4 Northwood, 256Mb-512Mb value PC3200, 40Gb HD, CDRW drive, bosh. Done.

I completely agree. I seriously doubt that this elderly co-worker will be doing any hardware intensive processes or some hardcore gaming. Build her a decent internet box and that's all she really needs.

I disagree, office workers are notorious for installing spyware and all kinds of useless sh*T on their machines. So in order for her to run all that crap she is going to need one hell of a processor. If you dont get her somthing fast you will hear from her in 3 months claiming that her pc is "too slow".

 

[ribbon13]

Ditto. Teach her how to use one of the more user friendly Linux distro's.

For windows... be sure to install Spybot and Firefox

 

[wisdomtooth]

Originally posted by: Googer
I disagree, office workers are notorious for installing spyware and all kinds of useless sh*T on their machines. So in order for her to run all that crap she is going to need one hell of a processor. If you dont get her somthing fast you will hear from her in 3 months claiming that her pc is "too slow".

LOL, such a person doesn't need a faster computer... Such a person needs to get a Dell, and let their tech support in India talk her though removing all that crap when it hits the fan.