Socket T (LGA 775) vs. Socket 478

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Darkhawk28

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Building a computer for an elderly co-worker because she got a really bad local quote.

Looking at getting a P4 3.0E but I can't decide either Socket T (775) or Socket 478...

She's a big Intel person (she sees the commercials) and I'm more knowledgable about AMD.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.
 
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Terumo

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She might want it to be upgradeable, so a 775 might be a better bet, especially with a motherboard that'll accept 1066mhz processors. If you explain to her that it'll be upgradeable, she'll be more inclined to go with better hardware too = more return for the investment.

Older folks tend to really watch their pennies, so they want value for the long haul.
 
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Socket T (775) with DDR2 and a 1066Mhz CPU is a waste of money IMO. A s478 P4 with an 800Mhz FSB and DDR1 memory will yield 95% of the performance at 1/3 the cost.

Socket T will be used in future Intel chips, however, so it does boast more upgrade potential than s478. I just don't think the upgradeability justifys its high cost.
 
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imported_Computer MAn

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Actually I don't think socket T will be very upgradable becuase I believe Intel has stated that they will be using a new socket for the dual cores. I would go 478 IMO
 
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Hidavi

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Also, the difference in performance between DDR400 and DDR2 533 is marginal. The DDR2 may have higher clock speed, but the latencies more than double.
 
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ts3433

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What is she doing with this system?

If prices on boards and processors are similar, get a 478, though consider AMD offerings.

(EDIT: Me recommending a 775 by accident? That's unpossible!)
 
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wisdomtooth

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Intel has already stated that the upcoming dual-core CPUs will require new sockets.

So basically the death warrant for Socket 775/T has already been signed.

The only things "new" for Socket775/T would be things like DDR2 and PCI-Express, neither of which are mature technologies and not worth the money ATM.

I would just save the money and go for a Socket478 system, and wait for whatever Intel has in the wings for when the dual-cores hit the market.
 
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Definitely go socket-775 if you're buying new. The Intel 915 chipset uses regular DDR memory, that's what I'd get as DDR2 isn't really worth it right now.
 
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ELopes580

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If I read somewhere correctly, current 775 socket mobo wont be able to use dual-core chips. For dual-core processors, a new board will need to be purchased. But I could be wrong it was a while back that I read it.
 
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are all 775's pressies? that would be one factor to consider regarding cooling noise.

you don't say how long the upgaradability should be but as mentioned above, neither core will be carried much if any further, so i guess i'd get the best deal you can find when you're ready.

some nice combos come up on the hot deals forums.

 
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wisdomtooth

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Originally posted by: Hidavi
Check this out: http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2144

It says that the next dual-core Intels will be on Socket 775
Click to expand...

Sorry to rain on your parade, but a much more recent Anandtech article says dual-cores will NOT work with existing 915 and 925 Socket-775 boards: Here.

Dual cores will not work on these Socket 775 boards, not without MAJOR redesign. That means pinouts will need to change too, which means a new socket will most likely be required.

Best skip Socket 775. Premium price for minimal gain.

Go with the more mature socket 478 and wait for newer stuff. 775 is never meant to be more than a stopgap, just like Socket 8 (Pentium Pro) and Socket 423 (Williamette P4), all of which SUCKED compared to their predecessors.

 
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Wadded Beef

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I think theres another brand that is far more upgradable than intel, it'll have 64 bit and dual core on the same mobos, i think it starts with an A... its pretty obscure tho, seeing as they don't have superbowl commercials with the blue man group...
 
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ELopes580

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Ummm AMD does not have dual core chip out yet, and if anything they will be about 3-6 months late than Intel to market those chips......
 
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Although you will be able to buy them for quite some time to come, essentially they quit designing chips for socket 478. And Socket T is almost at the end of it's road, untill the 1100+ pin next generation socket comes out soon (cannot remember the exact number). Socket 939 still has a very bright and promiseing future with x86 64 support and more and faster processors to come. Where it is quite the opposite of what Intel has to offer of a dark and unknown life for its products.
 
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I have to say I doubt this person will ever need an upgrade. What do they use a PC for? And what would necessitate an upgrade?
 
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Wadded Beef

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ELopes: notice i didn't say it HAS dual core now, i said it will in the future. and on the same motherboards, unlike intel...
 
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might be better to just explain to her about AMD. If she still wants a pentium i'd get her a 775 with pci express because later on there are going to be a lot of pci express add ons.
 
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