socket 939 best cpu?

dtp4life

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If i were able to find a cheaper priced socket 939 processor, say used from a friend of mine...
what is the best socket 939 processor i could get?

Regards,

thank you.
 

Rike

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Sounds right to me, although you are not likely to find one new. Newegg is down to only 5 types of 939 CPU's (A64 X2 3600, A64 4000, dual core Opterons 175, 180, & 185).

 

covert24

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Originally posted by: LOUISSSSS
i believe its the FX 60

either that or a opteron 185. heard real good things about that 185 and the 160 being very overclockable.
 

Aisengard

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how much of a speed bump should I expect from something like a A64 X2 3600? Going from an A64 3200+ Venice core. Would the X2 work on my nForce4 motherboard?
 

nerp

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FX-60 or Opteron 185. The Opty has a locked multi; the FX-60 doesn't.
 

Marty502

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Yes it would work, just make sure to update your BIOS.

I recently upgraded from a 3000+ Venice, which I kept at 2.5 Ghz. (check my signature)

My frame rate nearly doubled in games like Oblivion and Bioshock. Crysis particularly had a dramatic change; I'd say it's around 70% faster now.

If I was you I'd gamble a bit, and get a 'slower' processor and overclock the crap out of it. You'll save a lot of cash, which you might use in good cooling if you don't have it already. I was this close on ordering an Opteron 180, but got a fantastic deal on a X2 3800+, brand new. I'm really glad I didn't buy the Opty! Save your money.
 

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Originally posted by: Marty502
Yes it would work, just make sure to update your BIOS.

I recently upgraded from a 3000+ Venice, which I kept at 2.5 Ghz. (check my signature)

My frame rate nearly doubled in games like Oblivion and Bioshock. Crysis particularly had a dramatic change; I'd say it's around 70% faster now.

If I was you I'd gamble a bit, and get a 'slower' processor and overclock the crap out of it. You'll save a lot of cash, which you might use in good cooling if you don't have it already. I was this close on ordering an Opteron 180, but got a fantastic deal on a X2 3800+, brand new. I'm really glad I didn't buy the Opty! Save your money.


That's exactly what I did when I upgraded my other computer from 3700+ single core to X2 3800+. I was able to overclock it to 2.9GHz at V= 1.575V
 

nefariouscaine

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no one mentioning the Toledo based 2.2 GHz Athlon 64 X2 4400+

might be hard to find now but was a choice pick back in the day and the Opteron 165 too - those are 2 great chips if you're overclocking - either way Happy Hunting!!!
 

bharatwaja

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be sure to get an X2 s939 one and the latest BIOS would do....

I use to the venice core 3200+ and am absolutely happy (jus a few days to go before I start experimenting on it in the most insane ways possible, cause my new rig with qx9650 is on its way)
 

betasub

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Originally posted by: Marty502
My frame rate nearly doubled in games like Oblivion and Bioshock. Crysis particularly had a dramatic change; I'd say it's around 70% faster now.

Just by going dual-core? (Clock speeds are not much different)

Those sort of improvments in games are usually from upgrading to a new-gen gfx card, not a CPU upgrade.

 

Marty502

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Originally posted by: betasub
Originally posted by: Marty502
My frame rate nearly doubled in games like Oblivion and Bioshock. Crysis particularly had a dramatic change; I'd say it's around 70% faster now.

Just by going dual-core? (Clock speeds are not much different)

Those sort of improvments in games are usually from upgrading to a new-gen gfx card, not a CPU upgrade.

Yes.

I mostly play at 1280x960 resolution. (Except Crysis which goes at only 1024x768) Those games I mentioned had some horrendous dips in frame rate when you walked into big areas, gun fights or whatever. For example, in Crysis, when I demolished a house, the framerate dropped from, say, 18~20, to around 5 FPS. Not good.

With the dual core, the minimum frame rates rocketed, which means games are much more playable now. Demolishing houses in Crysis hardly shows any drop in performance now, as an example. Of course, my maximum frame rates didn't double because of the GFX card limitation, but they still improved a lot, like 20% I'd say. Those parts where games became a crawl? Doesn't happen anymore, everything plays much more consistently and smooth.

I could have bought a 8800GT and games would have still played like crap with my old Venice 3000+. Buying the X2 was the best thing I could do, by now.
 

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Dual cores are so cheap now, newer games make at least some use of them and they're drop in replacements for s939 systems...not really any reason not to snag one these days.
 

nerp

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
Dual cores are so cheap now, newer games make at least some use of them and they're drop in replacements for s939 systems...not really any reason not to snag one these days.

Exactly. Just having that extra core to handle background stuff and the OS itself in single threaded games causes a noticable improvement. At least it did for me.
 

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Originally posted by: nerp
FX-60 or Opteron 185. The Opty has a locked multi; the FX-60 doesn't.

You mean the FX has an unlock multi the Opteron does not. right?
 

exar333

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the Opteron 165 is a great chip; if you can get you hands on a FX-60 for cheap, that OCs well too.
 

nerp

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Originally posted by: RaulF
Originally posted by: nerp
FX-60 or Opteron 185. The Opty has a locked multi; the FX-60 doesn't.

You mean the FX has an unlock multi the Opteron does not. right?

Yeah. The opty has a locked multipler. The FX-60 does not.
 

SlowSpyder

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I have an Opteron 165. It overclocks to 2.7ghz without a problem... atleast mine does, and from what I've seen online most Opteron 165's overclock pretty well.

I would not spend much money on a s939 system. It's a dead socket using dead memory. Upgrading to a lower end dual core that is cheap and is known to overclock well makes sense, but spending $300+ on a used FX60 does not. You could get a whole C2D or AM2 processor, motherboard, and DDR2 for what some of the FX-60's are going for on Ebay. Just my $.02

Look at how much this FX-60 is on Ebay. :eek:
 

Marty502

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Well, that's kinda obvious but still worth being pointed out. That's why I recommended the topic creator to buy a lower end dual core, and overclock it with proper cooling.

That will get him into the same ballpark that an expensive FX chip will, for 1/4 the price or even less.
 

Martimus

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I just started overclocking my X2 4200+ yesterday, since it ran so cool. I got it to a stable 2.64GHz, and I will try to increase it to 2.75GHz tonight. If it lasts all night on Orthos blend, I will be happy. (250MHz HT with standard 166MHz divider makes my ram run at its rated speed, and puts the HT speed at 1GHz exactly with a 4X multiplier)

It cost me 65$ two months ago, but NewEgg doesn't carry it anymore. Not sure where you could get it now.
 

crisium

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I got a Manchester X2 4200+ for $79.99 to replace my 3800+ Venice. The Venice ran at 2460mhz, and I OCed the Manchester to the same. The difference in Crysis, CoD 4 is huge. Newegg is out, unfortunately. Going with the 3600X2 on Newegg might be your best bet, because it's cheap. The half cache isn't the greatest, but its dual core and should be fairly overclockable. I scratch my head when people buy the Opteron 185 on Newegg. For that price you could build a new Mobo+CPU+RAM of socket AM2.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: nerp
FX-60 or Opteron 185. The Opty has a locked multi; the FX-60 doesn't.

The Opteron 165/170's are much better overall if you are overclocking.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
I have an Opteron 165. It overclocks to 2.7ghz without a problem... atleast mine does, and from what I've seen online most Opteron 165's overclock pretty well.

I would not spend much money on a s939 system. It's a dead socket using dead memory. Upgrading to a lower end dual core that is cheap and is known to overclock well makes sense, but spending $300+ on a used FX60 does not. You could get a whole C2D or AM2 processor, motherboard, and DDR2 for what some of the FX-60's are going for on Ebay. Just my $.02

Look at how much this FX-60 is on Ebay. :eek:

2.7 here as well on mine...(2nd week 2007 chip). I have to use 1.5V...

Many can hit 3GHz on stock volts. I had thought about reselling mine and buying another, but 300mhz isn't going to really net me anything.