Socialist Group Fights for $20/hr minnimum wage! Advertises for $13/hr Web Developer.

[unokitty]

This happened two years ago this thread should be locked because it is not new news.

Craigslist states that the job was posted 9 days ago. And edited this afternoon.

Indeed.com states that the job was posted 2 days ago. And edited this afternoon.

 

[Thebobo]

But first can someone post a link from this organization where they asked for a $20 minimum wage 2 years ago?

Oh and you didn't mention it was part time lol

 

[Newell Steamer]

Oh and you didn't mention it was part time lol

:thumbsup:

Can someone show me where the min wage movement includes part timers as well?

I honestly have not been able to find anything.

Just to be clear - I am more than willing to accept being wrong here - but, I was always under the impression/understanding that min wage 'demands' applied to full time workers, not part timers.

 

[BoberFett]

:thumbsup:

Can someone show me where the min wage movement includes part timers as well?

I honestly have not been able to find anything.

Just to be clear - I am more than willing to accept being wrong here - but, I was always under the impression/understanding that min wage 'demands' applied to full time workers, not part timers.

Can you show me where the minimum wage movement has explicitly said part time workers should make less? If it does, then expect EVERYONE to be part time the day after the higher minimum wage kicks in.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Can you show me where the minimum wage movement has explicitly said part time workers should make less? If it does, then expect EVERYONE to be part time the day after the higher minimum wage kicks in.

Nope. If there is no clear distinction between part-timers v. full-timers in said movements - shame on them. Because if it's just an outcry of "min wage for all", then it should not apply.

NYC has well defined salary rules and tiers for union workers (as per their agreements). I've done hundreds of payroll check for union members; part timers make less per hour than full timers - it's a known fact and practice, in NYC.

I would assume such core and pretty damn basic understandings were also present in the min wage movement(s). If not, then, well they need to shut up - because part timers should not be entitled to the same treatment as full timers.

 

[glenn1]

:thumbsup:

Can someone show me where the min wage movement includes part timers as well?

I honestly have not been able to find anything.

Just to be clear - I am more than willing to accept being wrong here - but, I was always under the impression/understanding that min wage 'demands' applied to full time workers, not part timers.

I'm kinda baffled what your logic would be in having a legal minimum wage for part-time workers that was 1/3 that of full time workers.

 

[Newell Steamer]

I'm kinda baffled what your logic would be in having a legal minimum wage for part-time workers that was 1/3 that of full time workers.

Someone putting in 20 hours of work per week shouldn't be getting the same rate as someone putting in 40 hours of work per week.

It's the same as benefits (retirement, health, etc.) - part timers aren't entitled to them.

 

[CLite]

Someone putting in 20 hours of work per week shouldn't be getting the same rate as someone putting in 40 hours of work per week.

It's the same as benefits (retirement, health, etc.) - part timers aren't entitled to them.

Your position is that the minimum wage does not apply to part time workers? If so then you really need to educate yourself.

I think anyone advocating minimum wage is doing so for all workers because of the incredibly obvious loopholes available to employers if a part-time worker exemption existed. At least they would if their IQ crested their age.

 

[glenn1]

Someone putting in 20 hours of work per week shouldn't be getting the same rate as someone putting in 40 hours of work per week.

It's the same as benefits (retirement, health, etc.) - part timers aren't entitled to them.

Are we talking about the same thing? I'm not speaking about employers who voluntarily pay full time workers more than part time (whether in salary or benefits). Are you meaning to say you think there should be separate and lower federal minimum wages for PT workers than FT? If so that would be a pretty significant change in labor policies.

 

[werepossum]

Original indeed.com listing:

Original Craigslist posting:

Uno

Nicely done, sirrah. Nicely done!

:thumbsup:

Can someone show me where the min wage movement includes part timers as well?

I honestly have not been able to find anything.

Just to be clear - I am more than willing to accept being wrong here - but, I was always under the impression/understanding that min wage 'demands' applied to full time workers, not part timers.

lol Sure you have. Who hasn't?

I'm kinda baffled what your logic would be in having a legal minimum wage for part-time workers that was 1/3 that of full time workers.

It is necessary at the moment to defend our proud sisters (and appropriately shamed brothers) in the Freedom Socialist Party.

 

[Thebobo]

But first can someone post a link from this organization where they asked for a $20 minimum wage 2 years ago?

No one has a link other than the one??

 

[Victorian Gray]

No one has a link other than the one??

It was in the national party platform for 2012.

"Restore funds and programs that aid seniors, the poor, children, single mothers and the homeless. No cuts to Social Security, Medicaid or Medicare. Raise the minimum wage to $20 an hour. Provide a guaranteed annual income. Free medical care for all, including reproductive services and abortion. End foreclosures and expand low-cost public housing."

http://www.socialism.com/drupal-6.8/?q=node/1919

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Anybody who's ever worked for minimum wage KNOWS that it includes part-time.

 

[Thebobo]

It was in the national party platform for 2012.

"Restore funds and programs that aid seniors, the poor, children, single mothers and the homeless. No cuts to Social Security, Medicaid or Medicare. Raise the minimum wage to $20 an hour. Provide a guaranteed annual income. Free medical care for all, including reproductive services and abortion. End foreclosures and expand low-cost public housing."

http://www.socialism.com/drupal-6.8/?q=node/1919

Thanks

Bet a lot of people on here would love to see some of the platform listed enacted.

 

[Zaap]

C'mon... everyone knows part time= no such thing as minimum wage...

Oh... wait a minute. That of course makes NO fucking sense what-so-ever.


Shucks, the lefties rushing into defend their comrades ALMOST had an out.

 

[Atreus21]

Someone putting in 20 hours of work per week shouldn't be getting the same rate as someone putting in 40 hours of work per week.

...why.

Department of Labor:

One of the laws enforced by Wage and Hour is the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA), which requires employers to pay covered non-exempt employees at least the federal minimum wage for all hours worked, and overtime pay for all hours worked over 40 in a work week. For general information about the FLSA, including its application to tipped employees, please see WHD's web page.

http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/workhours/seasonalemployment.htm

The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) does not address part-time employment. Whether an employee is considered full-time or part-time does not change the application of the FLSA.

http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/workhours/parttimeemployment.htm

 

[Thebobo]

C'mon... everyone knows part time= no such thing as minimum wage...

Oh... wait a minute. That of course makes NO fucking sense what-so-ever.


Shucks, the lefties rushing into defend their comrades ALMOST had an out.

I would ask if you enjoyed being a prick but that question has an obvious answer. You're having way to much fun.

 

[Atreus21]

I would ask if you enjoyed being a prick but that question has an obvious answer. You're having way to much fun.

Zaap is our Phokus or Jhhhn.

Everybody fills a role.

 

[Matt1970]

It's better than the union that hired picketers for minimum wage. I forget if it was the UFCW or SEIU.

UFCW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPMHJoLYj2Q

 

[Victorian Gray]

Thanks

Bet a lot of people on here would love to see some of the platform listed enacted.

Yeah, cut through the rhetoric and there's certainly stuff that a lot of folks could, and probably should, support.

 

[alcoholbob]

$20 minimum wage is fine, if you want to deregulate. We'd need something like a $17-23 minimum wage to match the purchasing power of the minimum wage back in 1963. But you would have to have the same tax code, and cut regulations significantly, and close a bunch of government agencies whose only job is to police employers on frivolous things.

You can't follow the liberal dogma and want more government, more regulations, and also higher wages because costs rise exponentially. As Milton Friedman said in the 1990s, government does half the spending in the economy annually and generates 20 percent of the income, the private market spends the other half and generates 80 percent of the income. If you believe in increasing government to 60, 70, 80, 90 percent of all spending, then the economy will shrink and wages have to do so as well. You can't have higher wages and more government at the same time (except in devalued printed money).

 

[Zaap]

I would ask if you enjoyed being a prick but that question has an obvious answer. You're having way to much fun.

Aww poor baby, couldn't get the thread locked before further painting yourself in a corner? Too bad.

Zaap is our Phokus or Jhhhn.

Everybody fills a role.

And you are "our" Dumb McOwned? (Anyway, I'm not part of any "our" with you.)

 

[irishScott]

Sometimes I feel like I waste too much time, like I've wasted so much of my life... and then I read about people like this.

 

[OverVolt]

Get your head together:
- Liberal bashing posts do NOT require proof. In the tone of Londo Jowo; Go find it yourself and prove it's wrong,.. - which leads to,...
- Conservative bashing posts DO require proof and even then, hur dur dur dur.

Original indeed.com listing:

Original Craigslist posting:

Uno

Hur dur hur dur

 

[Matt1970]

It was in the national party platform for 2012.

"Restore funds and programs that aid seniors, the poor, children, single mothers and the homeless. No cuts to Social Security, Medicaid or Medicare. Raise the minimum wage to $20 an hour. Provide a guaranteed annual income. Free medical care for all, including reproductive services and abortion. End foreclosures and expand low-cost public housing."

http://www.socialism.com/drupal-6.8/?q=node/1919

Yea, free houses for everyone.