Social dance

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sdifox

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You're missing the point. Badly.

Ultra thin doesn't mean gay in my eyes. I see tons of skinny fugly nerds (myself most frequently) that aren't remotely fashionable-looking and hence not remotely stereotypically gay.

My point is exactly there is no such thing as a "stereotypical gay" set of physical attribute. There is a group of gay men that are flamboyant, but that is a minority.
 

HamburgerBoy

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My point is exactly there is no such thing as a "stereotypical gay" set of physical attribute. There is a group of gay men that are flamboyant, but that is a minority.

That's not what stereotypical means. The stereotypical Texan might be a dirty 300lb man with a mullet creeping out of a NASCAR cap, but the large cities clearly make it not true. The stereotypical Frenchie wears a beret, carries a bottle of wine, and blows his nasal fluids onto open streets, but I bet that a majority of Frenchies don't follow that either. You're completely missing the point of one of the most beautiful concepts created in human society.

Following that, the stereotypical gay man is thin, yes, but also lisps, gets expensive hair cuts, buys clothing based on what's fashionable, and flirts a lot. TridenT does not look stereotypically gay.
 

sdifox

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That's not what stereotypical means. The stereotypical Texan might be a dirty 300lb man with a mullet creeping out of a NASCAR cap, but the large cities clearly make it not true. The stereotypical Frenchie wears a beret, carries a bottle of wine, and blows his nasal fluids onto open streets, but I bet that a majority of Frenchies don't follow that either. You're completely missing the point of one of the most beautiful concepts created in human society.

Following that, the stereotypical gay man is thin, yes, but also lisps, gets expensive hair cuts, buys clothing based on what's fashionable, and flirts a lot. TridenT does not look stereotypically gay.


Mea culpa. I must be really tired to argue "stereotypical".
 

Zap

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To me, social dancing is dancing that involves other people, but not competitive or performance oriented.

I have been known to social dance.


Better movie to watch or the much better original.

Strictly Ballroom is more about competition. Shall We Dance is more on why people want to dance, plus some social dancing.

I do latin: salsa, rumba, cha-cha, mambo, samba, and if forced I'll dance mergengue.
I do smooth: foxtrot, waltz, vieneese waltz.
I do swing: single time, west coast, and a bit of triple time, double time, and lindy hop, hustle.
I do tango: argentine is my favorite, but I'll do stanard tango as well.

:thumbsup:

And to be honest, I wouldn't ever want contact with the people who are generally at...

What kind of social dancing have you done?

I've seen all ages at, yes, even ballroom dances. Sure, I've been to ones that attracted a more mature crowd. I've also been to ballroom dances that attracted mostly a younger crowd. You just have to find the right places.

I hear college towns are great for meeting younger women, no matter what style of social dancing you are in to. ;) I'm also sure that those retirement communities in Florida you alluded to will probably have an older crowd. As they say, "location, location, location."

In the general population, Lindy Hop, WCS and Salsa dancing attract all ages. Hustle isn't as popular, but does attract all ages as well. Various country dancing (mostly 2-step and line dancing, since other forms are rare "in the wild") attracts all ages as well.

Nope. So far all I am hearing are people denying the truth.

Stop bashing yourself like that. It isn't becoming.

I look like someone who is very straight and very much not getting laid even though he is straight.

That's because you come across as negative and argumentative, and close yourself off to new experiences.
 

TridenT

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That's not what stereotypical means. The stereotypical Texan might be a dirty 300lb man with a mullet creeping out of a NASCAR cap, but the large cities clearly make it not true. The stereotypical Frenchie wears a beret, carries a bottle of wine, and blows his nasal fluids onto open streets, but I bet that a majority of Frenchies don't follow that either. You're completely missing the point of one of the most beautiful concepts created in human society.

Following that, the stereotypical gay man is thin, yes, but also lisps, gets expensive hair cuts, buys clothing based on what's fashionable, and flirts a lot. TridenT does not look stereotypically gay.

This.
 

TridenT

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What kind of social dancing have you done?

I've seen all ages at, yes, even ballroom dances. Sure, I've been to ones that attracted a more mature crowd. I've also been to ballroom dances that attracted mostly a younger crowd. You just have to find the right places.

I hear college towns are great for meeting younger women, no matter what style of social dancing you are in to. ;) I'm also sure that those retirement communities in Florida you alluded to will probably have an older crowd. As they say, "location, location, location."

In the general population, Lindy Hop, WCS and Salsa dancing attract all ages. Hustle isn't as popular, but does attract all ages as well. Various country dancing (mostly 2-step and line dancing, since other forms are rare "in the wild") attracts all ages as well.

In case you didn't understand what I meant: The younger crowds(i.e. people who are younger) are seen at swing dances usually. It doesn't mean no old people exist nor does it mean that no young people exist at other types of dance... it just means there's a higher density of youngin's vs other dances.

I've done lindy, ecs, and blues. I went to a few WCS dances (I didn't dance to it much. The intro lessons were bad and not enough to really get you anywhere). The WCS was not well enough attended and I didn't like the crowd. (Not enough young people and too many snobs) I don't think I've gone to tango, salsa, or any other dances dedicated to one dance. One of the WCS dances I went to had other dances going on in another room (They'd switch song types to do all kinds of dances) but I was like, "eh... it's mostly line of dance stuff and they're all ancient or five." I was in a college class that dealt with ballroom dance. (Guess what they didn't cover in ballroom class? Swing. That was in the swing dancing class) It barely touched the dances and you basically learned a routine within a day or two of some dance. It wasn't great at all. People goofed around a lot.

Most other forms of dance seem to be really divided. For tango it's like... there's a practica and then there's actual dances. Seems like there's too much money involved in tango for me to start. Besides going to a practica before I can go to a real dance, I have to do lessons and shit. That's not going to work for me unless I have someone going with me all the time who I like. (This is all assuming I had money for these expensive things)

ECS is easy to pick up. Lindy is pretty easy to get from there. Blues is easy too. Depending on the venue it can be fun when you first start. (Just depends on how dogmatic the crowd is) Usually it's way more relaxed than any other forms of social dance.
 
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PimpJuice

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Do you do it? What kind(s)?

Ain't talkin' about that "I only dance when I am drunk" stuff either.

I figure most of ATOT hasn't done it since it involves touching a lady.

You have no room to talk about touching a lady. You are the biggest loser here.
 

Maleficus

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She has a dance group she goes with. There are two guys she dances with in that group. One is gay and the other is married.

She'll occasionally dance with other people, which bothered me a bit in the beginning, but I've gotten over it. I trust her and I know she's just dancing because she loves dancing, not to meet or flirt with other guys.

I'm in pretty much the same situation. just have to have that trust.
 

TridenT

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I think if the girl actually likes/loves you more then she won't leave you... And, if she loves/likes someone more... Why are you being such a dick and trying to control her?
 

mrkun

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I used to Salsa dance when I was in college since I had some friends that did it. It's really not that difficult; just take lessons for awhile and then hit the clubs once you feel like you've learned enough moves. It is a lot less foreboding though if you know someone else that can ease you into it and go to clubs with you.
 

Sho'Nuff

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I was 1 class away from a minor in dance at my alma mater. I took the classes solely to meet women, and it worked.

Interestingly, I still can't dance for squat.
 

TridenT

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I was 1 class away from a minor in dance at my alma mater. I took the classes solely to meet women, and it worked.

Interestingly, I still can't dance for squat.

I assume your college offers a degree in dance? It seems like a lot of places have maybe two dance classes (ballroom and swing) and that's it. (Just basic PE stuff) :p
 

TridenT

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Got outside confirmation: Swing dancing is not ballroom. ECS can be ballroom, but lindy is most definitely not ballroom.
 

dullard

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Got outside confirmation: Swing dancing is not ballroom. ECS can be ballroom, but lindy is most definitely not ballroom.
So did I. It seems that hundreds of thousands (millions) of ballroom dancers also dance lindy hop.
 

TridenT

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So did I. It seems that hundreds of thousands (millions) of ballroom dancers also dance lindy hop.

Doesn't mean that lindy is ballroom dance. No one thinks that except you. You can talk to swing dancers and they'll all say, "Lindy is not ballroom."

That's why there's lessons and shit on things that are "strictly ballroom." That's because... swing isn't ballroom.
 

Born2bwire

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Got outside confirmation: Swing dancing is not ballroom. ECS can be ballroom, but lindy is most definitely not ballroom.

Ahahahahahahahahaha. Oh Lordy.

Well dullard, it appears your goose is properly cooked now. TridenT vaguely claims that he went somewhere outside and confirmed his prejudices. I never knew the drunken homeless man on the corner knew that much about ballroom dancing.
 

Capt Caveman

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Doesn't mean that lindy is ballroom dance. No one thinks that except you. You can talk to swing dancers and they'll all say, "Lindy is not ballroom."

That's why there's lessons and shit on things that are "strictly ballroom." That's because... swing isn't ballroom.

Go join your school's dance team. Swing(Lindy) is one of the Ballroom Competition Categories that they compete in.
 

Sho'Nuff

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I assume your college offers a degree in dance? It seems like a lot of places have maybe two dance classes (ballroom and swing) and that's it. (Just basic PE stuff) :p

Well, it did when I was there. Hence my comment re: being 1 class away from a minor in dance.

I took 3 ballroom classes, a couple folk classes, and maybe one or two modern (god, I was horrible!). Was fun though. The ballroom classes especially. 30:1 ratio of women to men.