Soccer: why is this not offsides?

James3shin

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Opposing team had possession of the ball and was then dispossessed - basically it is the equivalent of stealing the ball or intercepting a pass.
 

mnewsham

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I have seen a ref not allow that sort of goal before, not quite sure why it isnt considered offsides though.
 

coxmaster

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Because he didn't receive the ball from a teammate.

From what I remember (might be incorrect) you are not offside if you steal the ball from a defender, no matter what. Such as with this case
 

coldmeat

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if you couldn't score behind the goalie, he would just stand on the opposite side of the field.
 

MovingTarget

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Meh, they need to get rid of the offsides rule anyway. That, and stoppage time.

/flamesuit
 

busydude

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I have seen a ref not allow that sort of goal before, not quite sure why it isnt considered offsides though.

I guess the player snatched it while the ball was still in GK's possession(GK may be holding it).
 

lykaon78

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Offsides is an offensive call. He was on defense until the moment he stole the ball and then by definition he was no longer offsides.
 

silverpig

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You have to receive a pass from a teammate while seeking an advantage by being in an offside position (fewer than 2 players between you and the goal line).
 

silverpig

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More detailed answer:

In order for a play to be blown offside, three conditions must be met.

1. Position
2. Intent
3. Timing

Position: The player must be in the attacking half of the field and must be closer to the opponents' goal line than the opposing player 2nd closest to the goal line. If this condition is met, the player is in an offside position, but this in and of itself is not a foul.

Intent: The player must be seeking to gain an advantage by being in the offside position. The player must make an attempt to play the ball, shoot, deflect the ball, or interfere with an opponent or the goalie.

Timing: The offside will only be called if the player is in an offside position (condition 1) at the time that a teammate last makes contact with the ball.

If the player is judged to be in an offside position at the moment his teammate last touches the ball, and the intent of the player is to gain an advantage, THEN the play is blown down. All three conditions must be met, no fewer.

In this case, the player was definitely in an offside position, and was definitely seeking to gain an advantage by being in that position, but because one of his own players did not touch the ball, there was no offside call.
 

NL5

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More detailed answer:

In order for a play to be blown offside, three conditions must be met.

1. Position
2. Intent
3. Timing

Position: The player must be in the attacking half of the field and must be closer to the opponents' goal line than the opposing player 2nd closest to the goal line. If this condition is met, the player is in an offside position, but this in and of itself is not a foul.

Intent: The player must be seeking to gain an advantage by being in the offside position. The player must make an attempt to play the ball, shoot, deflect the ball, or interfere with an opponent or the goalie.

Timing: The offside will only be called if the player is in an offside position (condition 1) at the time that a teammate last makes contact with the ball.

If the player is judged to be in an offside position at the moment his teammate last touches the ball, and the intent of the player is to gain an advantage, THEN the play is blown down. All three conditions must be met, no fewer.

In this case, the player was definitely in an offside position, and was definitely seeking to gain an advantage by being in that position, but because one of his own players did not touch the ball, there was no offside call.

OK, so I partially take back my objection. I've never heard it termed as "the second to last defender"- I've always been taught last defender. So I guess the keeper could pull you offsides, but I've never seen that happen. (not that it hasn't).

But, as you stated above - your teamate must have last touched the ball - by definintion, you are already on offense. It can't be called when you're on defense.
 

rcpratt

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OK, so I partially take back my objection. I've never heard it termed as "the second to last defender"- I've always been taught last defender. So I guess the keeper could pull you offsides, but I've never seen that happen. (not that it hasn't).

But, as you stated above - your teamate must have last touched the ball - by definintion, you are already on offense. It can't be called when you're on defense.
Not exactly true, if the offensive player sends a pass and it's deflected by the defense, it can still be offside. Intent is what matters.
 

silverpig

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OK, so I partially take back my objection. I've never heard it termed as "the second to last defender"- I've always been taught last defender. So I guess the keeper could pull you offsides, but I've never seen that happen. (not that it hasn't).

But, as you stated above - your teamate must have last touched the ball - by definintion, you are already on offense. It can't be called when you're on defense.

I used to be a linesman for youth soccer as well as having played it as a centre midfielder, centre back, and goalie so I am well acquainted with the offside rule. As a goalie I have had occasion to step up and play the offside trap to get a call, and as a linesman I have made the call where there was one defender behind the attacker but the goalie wasn't. It doesn't happen often, but it does happen.
 

Gooberlx2

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Yeah, basically he stole the ball when the keeper dropped it to kick. There was no play from his own team to constitute offsides.
 

Via

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I don't understand why anybody would think that it was offside.