Sobriety Check

[SagaLore]

This is based off of this thread. lancestorm was angry that his friend's right's were violated, when cops held up traffic to check for drunk drivers. His side of the debate is that you are innocent until proven guilty, and a sobrietary check is going against that principle. Others are debating that roads are public property, and driving is a privelege, so these checks are okay if it prevents accidents/deaths. Both sides of the debate are very valid - so vote in the poll and let's see what the majority thinks.

 

[waggy]

sheesh how many posting on this do we need?

oh and NO poll! heh

 

[Eli]

Poll? Poll? Where's the poll? I see no poll.

 

[yukichigai]

What poll?

By the way, roads aren't public property, they're state and local property that are open for public use. The difference there is key.

 

[loup garou]

Topic Title: Sobrietary Check
Topic Summary: Now I real poll worth voting in.

Um...maybe you should be sober when creating threads...

 

[lokiju]

Originally posted by: Eli
Poll? Poll? Where's the poll? I see no poll.

 

[SagaLore]

why isn't the poll showing up? I can edit it and the entries are there.

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: blazert40

Originally posted by: Eli
Poll? Poll? Where's the poll? I see no poll.

haha, yea. where's the poll man?

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: werk

Topic Title: Sobrietary Check
Topic Summary: Now I real poll worth voting in.

Um...maybe you should be sober when creating threads...

I think there is something in this tea I'm drinking.

 

[yukichigai]

Originally posted by: SagaLore
I think there is something in this tea I'm drinking.

So that's what the kids are calling Tequila these days?

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: yukichigai

Originally posted by: SagaLore
I think there is something in this tea I'm drinking.

So that's what the kids are calling Tequila these days?

Not sure, I don't hang out with youngin's.

 

[Encryptic]

I'm all for sobriety checkpoints if they help cut down on the number of assholes driving drunk. Driving is a privilege, not a right. If you abuse that privilege, you should have to face the consequences.

 

[dullard]

All sobriety checks I've ever know of have been advertized well in advance. Thus if it bothers you, plan your trip around them. Only the drunks who forgot and out-of-town drivers have to go through them.

Thus it is a loss of privacy to those out-of-town drivers, but I think it is a small price to pay for dramatic increases in safety.

 

[mugs]

You're still innocent until proven guilty when you're stopped at a sobriety checkpoint. Even if they ticket you for DUI, you're still innocent until proven guilty. At most you could say it's an illegal search. Personally I couldn't care less.

 

[Bassyhead]

i'm for them, less drunk drivers behind the wheel of heavy chunks of metal on the road = good

 

[FoBoT]

sobriety check points have been upheld by all courts

you don't have to get into a car on a public highway if you don't want to

 

[StageLeft]

Yes.

 

[DurocShark]

I think it sucks but it's a fact of life.

Personally, I don't feel that driving is anything BUT a right. Unless the gov wants to stop charging me taxes that go to road maintenance. Then I'd gladly consider it a privilege.

 

[Whisper]

Keep 'em. If you aren't drinking and driving then you have nothing to worry about.

I'd rather be inconvenienced slightly and have the roads be safer than to have to watch out for even more bad drivers out there.

I feel that driving is both a right and a privilege. However, just like with any other right, that doesn't mean I can use my right to drive to infringe upon other people's right to live. I'd rather the police be proactive about things like this than to come in after the fact and say, "oh darn, another drunk driver, these guys are everywhere."