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Smoke

Distributed Computing Elite Member
Jan 3, 2001
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Way to go TeAm! :thumbsup:

Soon as I get things sorted I'll try and give you a little more help. :)
 

TurtleBlue

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Feb 10, 2004
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Thanks, Assimilator1 - whatever you and everyone else can send any tidbits my way to make SoB to sing on this box - as I said in an earlier post (or was it to the Dpad thread?) I tossed Dpad onto the box to process since SoB was only using 1 core this morning.

Just took a look at it now and see that SoB is reporting that it will take more than 500 hrs :shocked: to process and dpad is still saying "Muon 1 started: Configuring". Haven't looked to see if it posted ANY points since this morning. It is definitly affecting SoB since the time to complete jumped from 250 hrs to over 500! :(

I will be decloaking Dpad and just run SoB.

Not gonna bother with F@H on this box this week since I don't wanna bother going thru another multi-hour marathon in getting the GPU2 to try to crunch. At least I got my Quad box to fold thanks to the guys and dolls at TeAM and especially major kudos to Cutthroat - just wish Markfw900 will finally be able to get that Quad box of his to not only fold but be able to comm his major problems since upgrading to the new core, since the old one (which worked OK!) expired.

To see a Quad box not be able to fold for TeAM is a crime against humanity! :|

TurtleBlue

Ooops...Congrats to TeAM for getting into 2nd Place - Woohoo :beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:
 

Cutthroat

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Apr 13, 2002
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What's SoB? I'm about to hit 1,000,000 points on F@H and I might let my CPU crunch a new project after that, but I don't know what.
 

RaySun2Be

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Oct 10, 1999
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TurtleBlue Are you running the GUI or service version of SOB?

Cutthroat, SOB stands for Seventeen or Bust, a mathematical project aimed at tackling the Seirpenski Problem using distributed computing.

The Sierpinski problem itself deals with numbers of the form N = k * 2^n + 1, for any odd k and n > 1. Numbers of this form are called Proth numbers. If, for some specific value of k, every possible choice of n results in a composite (non-prime) Proth number N, then that k is called a Sierpinski number. The Sierpinski problem itself is: "What is the smallest Sierpinski number?"

:)
 

TallBill

Lifer
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Originally posted by: RaySun2Be
TurtleBlue Are you running the GUI or service version of SOB?

Cutthroat, SOB stands for Seventeen or Bust, a mathematical project aimed at tackling the Seirpenski Problem using distributed computing.

The Sierpinski problem itself deals with numbers of the form N = k * 2^n + 1, for any odd k and n > 1. Numbers of this form are called Proth numbers. If, for some specific value of k, every possible choice of n results in a composite (non-prime) Proth number N, then that k is called a Sierpinski number. The Sierpinski problem itself is: "What is the smallest Sierpinski number?"

:)

I'll also point out that 11 of the 17 primes have been found, so the project has seen success. You just have to decide if a math problem is worth the crunching power.
 

TurtleBlue

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Feb 10, 2004
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RaySun2Be & TallBill

I still had the folders for SoB & Dpad when I was involved with them sometime in the early part of last year so I just ran the executables from them. Don't know anything about GUI or service versions of SoB. Guess I'll need to visit the SoB homepage and look into this.

Yes, I do remenber that some of the prime #'s were already found, including one from our TeAM!

TurtleBlue
 

Cutthroat

Golden Member
Apr 13, 2002
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So what is the scientific benefit of knowing these prime numbers? What can be done if they find all 17?
 

Assimilator1

Elite Member
Nov 4, 1999
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Didn't Confused used to crunch this project a lot & do some stats? Where is he these days?

Turtle Blue
Afraid I don't know anything about SoB ( I never did really get on with maths :confused: ;)), I'll carry on our DPAD convo in the DPAD stats thread :), although I will say it sounds like you might have an old client which is being blocked/ignored by the servers.

Originally posted by: Cutthroat
So what is the scientific benefit of knowing these prime numbers? What can be done if they find all 17?
Yea I'd like to know too :thumbsup:.
 

TallBill

Lifer
Apr 29, 2001
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Catching up to #1 now with IJump's insane output. Shmapty and Amdborg are putting out crazy daily numbers too. 18.58 estimated days from #1.
 

RaySun2Be

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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18.58 estimated days from #1.

As Raymond's father would say, Holy Crap! :Q

Just don't make too much noise, or we will awaken the cows, and they can throw a LOT of cowpower on a project......

:)
 

AmberClad

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Hmm. It does appear that you can run multiple instances of this.

I just threw this on my machine. I'm completely baffled as to what all these numbers and stats mean, especially "equivalent power". Ironically, their homepage has a section for FAQs, one of which is supposedly hosted here at AT (link's dead).
 

TallBill

Lifer
Apr 29, 2001
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Originally posted by: RaySun2Be
18.58 estimated days from #1.

As Raymond's father would say, Holy Crap! :Q

Just don't make too much noise, or we will awaken the cows, and they can throw a LOT of cowpower on a project......

:)

I have a feeling that they are waiting to dump anyways. Who knows though.
 

IJump

Diamond Member
Feb 12, 2001
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I should have the #1 user spot this weekend, right now the team spot is still at least 2 weeks away...


You can run Sob as a service, you can run multiple instances that way.

If anyone wants a scripted install, PM me and I can get that to you. It is a pretty straight forward install after your account is set up.


The project is trying to prove the Sierpinski Conjecture. Here is a description the SoB site links to as a description: http://everything2.com/index.p...=Seventeen%20or%20bust

As far as the other benefits of the project, the main benefit is the discovery of extremely large prime numbers, which are often used for encryption. Not as interesting as some of the other projects maybe, but the client runs well behind the proxies at my work, so that is why I have so much on it. After we take the top spot, I will probbly start working on getting another project to run at work and keep enough on SoB to hold #1.
 

NicColt

Diamond Member
Jul 23, 2000
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Originally posted by: IJump
I should have the #1 user spot this weekend

Yea I was just going to post this, all I have to say is that it's one amazing accomplishment.

When the next prime is found I hope that it's in your account. Congratulations on that #1 spot you deserve it.
 

Spacehead

Lifer
Jun 2, 2002
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Originally posted by: Assimilator1
Didn't Confused used to crunch this project a lot & do some stats? Where is he these days?

Yeah, he is the founder of the SoB team & is still crunching, although not as much as he used to.

Confused - Last Visited On: 5/7/2008 4:01:41 PM



 

Spacehead

Lifer
Jun 2, 2002
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Originally posted by: videogames101
I'll put my quad on this, i wanna see the #1 spot.

Can I run multiple instances of SoB?

Originally posted by: AmberClad
Hmm. It does appear that you can run multiple instances of this.

I just threw this on my machine. I'm completely baffled as to what all these numbers and stats mean, especially "equivalent power". Ironically, their homepage has a section for FAQs, one of which is supposedly hosted here at AT (link's dead).

Run the single instance & get the settings the way you want, then install as a service.
Our own ken_g6 created SBQueue for caching work if you need it.


Those numbers can be a little confusing at first but you'll catch on. To tell the truth i don't know what equivalent power means.
 

VirtualLarry

No Lifer
Aug 25, 2001
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Good news, I'm back from vacation and I have my two main rigs crunching again, and my output is back up to 15T/week. Even better, I've upgraded one of the machines (my friend's) to an E5200 @ 3.8Ghz, so should be seeing a slight increase in output from that.
Still don't have my two monster quad-core rigs built yet, those will be a while.
 

videogames101

Diamond Member
Aug 24, 2005
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I figured out how the service works, so now I'm running 3 instances of the client, output is going up!