So why is Frodo the hero of LOTR again? *spoiler*

[dvdrdiscs]

Lets see, he wanted to give up a few times. Sam had to drag his ass and even carry him. Sam had to even ration the food and not eat in order for Frodo to eat. Then we have Sam who wasn't blind to Golum's evil plan. Oh yeah, Sam also saved Frodo's ass from the huge spider. Also in the end Frodo wanted the ring for himself. He did not even mean to destroy it. It was all an accident because of Golum. In the end, if there was a hero, it should be Sam. I mean I love this movie but Frodo is hardly a character that I am fond of.

 

[JHoNNy1OoO]

I don't think Frodo is a hero at all. They all(Fellowship) did what they had to do and that was the only way to accomplish their goal. One person is no more a hero than the other. They all risked their lives to destroy the ring.

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[TheToOTaLL]

Originally posted by: dvdrdiscsLets see, he wanted to give up a few times. Sam had to drag his ass and even carry him. Sam had to even ration the food and not eat in order for Frodo to eat. Then we have Sam who wasn't blind to Golum's evil plan. Oh yeah, Sam also saved Frodo's ass from the huge spider. Also in the end Frodo wanted the ring for himself. He did not even mean to destroy it. It was all an accident because of Golum. In the end, if there was a hero, it should be Sam.

Agreed....

Sam indeed bore a lot of weight to get the ring to Mordor, but if it wasn't for the rest of the Fellowship to draw any attention away from Frodo & Sam, then they may have never made it.

 

[dvdrdiscs]

Originally posted by: JHoNNy1OoO
I don't think Frodo is a hero at all. They all(Fellowship) did what they had to do and that was the only way to accomplish their goal. One person is no more a hero than the other. They all risked their lives to destroy the ring.

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Well everyone did everything they could because they want to give Frodo a chance. Everyone is always worrying about Frodo's well being. And then at the end, everything is centered around Frodo so he is the main guy. Never once in the movie did anyone wonder "Is Sam alive?" Poor Sam.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: JHoNNy1OoO
I don't think Frodo is a hero at all. They all(Fellowship) did what they had to do and that was the only way to accomplish their goal. One person is no more a hero than the other. They all risked their lives to destroy the ring.

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Yep.

Frodo sucks.

 

[Siddhartha]

Probably because anyone else would have succumb to the ring's evil before he did. Gollum\Semagol killed his friend for it after just looking at it.

 

[konichiwa]

The meek shall inherit the earth. Sam was the silent hero.

 

[speg]

Frodo was able to withhold the corruption of the Ring. At least more so than anyone else would have been able to.

 

[Darien]

Frodo was chosen to carry the burden of the ring. Because of this, he was pretty much destined to be corrupted by it. [Frodo and Sam can be seen as this "untainted good" when the journey started -- in the end, Tolkien was giving a statement to how power can corrupt anyone IMO. And being tainted by power and evil means you can never return back to the way you were. eg: Bilbo Baggins, Gollum.] His task is arguably the most difficult, carrying the ring of power and fighting back temptation and VERY NEAT looking ringwraiths and all.

 

[clamum]

Originally posted by: speg
Frodo was able to withhold the corruption of the Ring. At least more so than anyone else would have been able to.

I concur

 

[Wallydraigle]

Yeah, Sam and more or less everyone else was more heroic than Frodo, but to his credit he wasn't quite such a penis in the books.

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: Darien
Frodo was chosen to carry the burden of the ring. Because of this, he was pretty much destined to be corrupted by it. [Frodo and Sam can be seen as this "untainted good" when the journey started -- in the end, Tolkien was giving a statement to how power can corrupt anyone IMO. And being tainted by power and evil means you can never return back to the way you were. eg: Bilbo Baggins, Gollum.] His task is arguably the most difficult, carrying the ring of power and fighting back temptation and VERY NEAT looking ringwraiths and all.

Actually, Tolkien was vocal about his preference that books be written for their stories, without allegory or deeper meaning, believing that a good story justifies its own existance. Not surprising, coming from a Medievalist.

 

[Deeko]

You silly fool, read the books and you might really understand. Frodo had an incredible will to be able to fight off the ring as well as he did. Give the ring to Sam and have Frodo be the doting assistant...do you think Sam would still have been the tough, resiliant guy he was in the original story? Of course not. The ring has so much control over people, some people get corrupted by it without even touching it(Boromir). Read. Don't just watch.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Deeko
You silly fool, read the books and you might really understand. Frodo had an incredible will to be able to fight off the ring as well as he did. Give the ring to Sam and have Frodo be the doting assistant...do you think Sam would still have been the tough, resiliant guy he was in the original story? Of course not. The ring has so much control over people, some people get corrupted by it without even touching it(Boromir). Read. Don't just watch.

ya, but if one HADN'T read the books and ONLY seen the movie i can see how they can come to such a conclusion.

this is why i despised Elijah Wood as frodo soo much.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Deeko
You silly fool, read the books and you might really understand. Frodo had an incredible will to be able to fight off the ring as well as he did. Give the ring to Sam and have Frodo be the doting assistant...do you think Sam would still have been the tough, resiliant guy he was in the original story? Of course not. The ring has so much control over people, some people get corrupted by it without even touching it(Boromir). Read. Don't just watch.

ya, but if one HADN'T read the books and ONLY seen the movie i can see how they can come to such a conclusion.

this is why i despised Elijah Wood as frodo soo much.

Which is why I said read the books. The movies are awful in that regard, they don't really tell the story at all like it was originally told. The problem is, it is a well done movie, so people *think* they know what's going on, when in reality they have no idea.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Deeko
You silly fool, read the books and you might really understand. Frodo had an incredible will to be able to fight off the ring as well as he did. Give the ring to Sam and have Frodo be the doting assistant...do you think Sam would still have been the tough, resiliant guy he was in the original story? Of course not. The ring has so much control over people, some people get corrupted by it without even touching it(Boromir). Read. Don't just watch.

ya, but if one HADN'T read the books and ONLY seen the movie i can see how they can come to such a conclusion.

this is why i despised Elijah Wood as frodo soo much.

Which is why I said read the books. The movies are awful in that regard, they don't really tell the story at all like it was originally told. The problem is, it is a well done movie, so people *think* they know what's going on, when in reality they have no idea.

i just wanted to express again how much i despised elijah wood as frodo. it is my single biggest complaint about this series. for example i thought sean astin did a very good job as Sam, mb a bit too good making elijah wood look even more pathetic.

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Deeko
You silly fool, read the books and you might really understand. Frodo had an incredible will to be able to fight off the ring as well as he did. Give the ring to Sam and have Frodo be the doting assistant...do you think Sam would still have been the tough, resiliant guy he was in the original story? Of course not. The ring has so much control over people, some people get corrupted by it without even touching it(Boromir). Read. Don't just watch.

ya, but if one HADN'T read the books and ONLY seen the movie i can see how they can come to such a conclusion.

this is why i despised Elijah Wood as frodo soo much.

Which is why I said read the books. The movies are awful in that regard, they don't really tell the story at all like it was originally told. The problem is, it is a well done movie, so people *think* they know what's going on, when in reality they have no idea.

i just wanted to express again how much i despised elijah wood as frodo. it is my single biggest complaint about this series. for example i thought sean astin did a very good job as Sam, mb a bit too good making elijah wood look even more pathetic.

Agreed. I was sick of the little bastard by the end of the movie. I was actually hoping he'd fall in even though I'd read the books and knew better.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Deeko
You silly fool, read the books and you might really understand. Frodo had an incredible will to be able to fight off the ring as well as he did. Give the ring to Sam and have Frodo be the doting assistant...do you think Sam would still have been the tough, resiliant guy he was in the original story? Of course not. The ring has so much control over people, some people get corrupted by it without even touching it(Boromir). Read. Don't just watch.

ya, but if one HADN'T read the books and ONLY seen the movie i can see how they can come to such a conclusion.

this is why i despised Elijah Wood as frodo soo much.

Which is why I said read the books. The movies are awful in that regard, they don't really tell the story at all like it was originally told. The problem is, it is a well done movie, so people *think* they know what's going on, when in reality they have no idea.

i just wanted to express again how much i despised elijah wood as frodo. it is my single biggest complaint about this series. for example i thought sean astin did a very good job as Sam, mb a bit too good making elijah wood look even more pathetic.

Agreed. I was sick of the little bastard by the end of the movie. I was actually hoping he'd fall in even though I'd read the books and knew better.

I think you guys are unhappy with Jackson's Frodo than with Wood. In the book, Frodo did not chose Gollum over Sam. He did not pull his sword on Sam as he did in the movie. For some reason Jackson chose to portray Frodo as he did.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Deeko
You silly fool, read the books and you might really understand. Frodo had an incredible will to be able to fight off the ring as well as he did. Give the ring to Sam and have Frodo be the doting assistant...do you think Sam would still have been the tough, resiliant guy he was in the original story? Of course not. The ring has so much control over people, some people get corrupted by it without even touching it(Boromir). Read. Don't just watch.

ya, but if one HADN'T read the books and ONLY seen the movie i can see how they can come to such a conclusion.

this is why i despised Elijah Wood as frodo soo much.

Which is why I said read the books. The movies are awful in that regard, they don't really tell the story at all like it was originally told. The problem is, it is a well done movie, so people *think* they know what's going on, when in reality they have no idea.

i just wanted to express again how much i despised elijah wood as frodo. it is my single biggest complaint about this series. for example i thought sean astin did a very good job as Sam, mb a bit too good making elijah wood look even more pathetic.

Agreed. I was sick of the little bastard by the end of the movie. I was actually hoping he'd fall in even though I'd read the books and knew better.

I think you guys are unhappy with Jackson's Frodo than with Wood. In the book, Frodo did not chose Gollum over Sam. He did not pull his sword on Sam as he did in the movie. For some reason Jackson chose to proftrait Frodo as he did.

actually, i didn't like wood in any of the three films.

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Deeko
You silly fool, read the books and you might really understand. Frodo had an incredible will to be able to fight off the ring as well as he did. Give the ring to Sam and have Frodo be the doting assistant...do you think Sam would still have been the tough, resiliant guy he was in the original story? Of course not. The ring has so much control over people, some people get corrupted by it without even touching it(Boromir). Read. Don't just watch.

ya, but if one HADN'T read the books and ONLY seen the movie i can see how they can come to such a conclusion.

this is why i despised Elijah Wood as frodo soo much.

Which is why I said read the books. The movies are awful in that regard, they don't really tell the story at all like it was originally told. The problem is, it is a well done movie, so people *think* they know what's going on, when in reality they have no idea.

i just wanted to express again how much i despised elijah wood as frodo. it is my single biggest complaint about this series. for example i thought sean astin did a very good job as Sam, mb a bit too good making elijah wood look even more pathetic.

Agreed. I was sick of the little bastard by the end of the movie. I was actually hoping he'd fall in even though I'd read the books and knew better.

I think you guys are unhappy with Jackson's Frodo than with Wood. In the book, Frodo did not chose Gollum over Sam. He did not pull his sword on Sam as he did in the movie. For some reason Jackson chose to proftrait Frodo as he did.

Oh, I know. I've read the books and I had no problem with Frodo as he was originally portrayed. The way they changed the that aspect of the book was just garbage though and it made Frodo a very unlikeable character. Just my $.02 anyway.

 

[oniq]

because he fell in love with sam

 

[Ticks]

sam was also the hero in "Encino Man"

 

[kami]

He's not really the hero and no one said he was. Sam is...Tolkien made this obvious and so did Peter Jackson. Heck the film ends with him (so does the book).

Frodo is still a hero though...despite the ring taking over him in the end, he lasted a long time and took the responsibility of carrying the ring. It's safe to say that no other person could have done it besides Sam.

 

[LordMorpheus]

right, the point is that Sam had it easier than Frodo: his mind wasn't being corrupted by the Ring as Frodo's was. Frodo could not have done it without Same, but Sam couldn't have carried the ring by himself either. It is also clear that, of the Hobbits, Frodo paid the highest price in order to acheive victory -- he sacrificed more. He isn't perfect, but Tolkien never made anyone perfect, he is just a steadfast hobbit who is way out of his league.

 

[Yossarian]

I didn't think Frodo was a particularly likeable character after the Fellowship book anyway. Particularly in RotK he became extremely whiny and irritating.