so why is amd allowing intel to release a dual core before them?

[clarkey01]

Originally posted by: jbh129
You guys are pretty funny. This forum might as well be an AMD forum. Some of Intels new products look a lot more exciting than anything AMD has talked about.

I remember when the Intel fanboys were saying around the time of the "3200+" AXP, that prescott would be the final nail in AMD's coffin, they whole board seemed to be against AMD at that time, however they were still support due to their price performance ratio they had.

It doesn?t help the image of Intel to enthusiast when they play the "Holier then thou" card and diss everything AMD does, but the quietly goes " Yeah me too for 64 bit", "Yeah me too for Dual core", " Yeah me too for no more Ghz".

Intel maybe be playing sneaky with the release of Smithfield leading up to the summer months, BBQ SEASON ! (light hearted joke)

I own a 2.8C for encoding and ripping so its shows that although I favour the underdog I still turn to Intel for my needs when Hector and the lads can not provide

 

[jbh129]

Some of the new designs that I pointed out are rather interesting. AMD seems to be content with its current performance advantgae.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: clarkey01

Originally posted by: jbh129
You guys are pretty funny. This forum might as well be an AMD forum. Some of Intels new products look a lot more exciting than anything AMD has talked about.

I remember when the Intel fanboys were saying around the time of the "3200+" AXP, that prescott would be the final nail in AMD's coffin, they whole board seemed to be against AMD at that time, however they were still support due to their price performance ratio they had.

It doesn?t help the image of Intel to enthusiast when they play the "Holier then thou" card and diss everything AMD does, but the quietly goes " Yeah me too for 64 bit", "Yeah me too for Dual core", " Yeah me too for no more Ghz".

Intel maybe be playing sneaky with the release of Smithfield leading up to the summer months, BBQ SEASON ! (light hearted joke)

I own a 2.8C for encoding and ripping so its shows that although I favour the underdog I still turn to Intel for my needs when Hector and the lads can not provide

Id just like to point out that Intel has had dual core on the roadmap for as long as i can remember nearly, it is an inevitability that parrellel processing is the next step to computing.

 

[clarkey01]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: clarkey01

Originally posted by: jbh129
You guys are pretty funny. This forum might as well be an AMD forum. Some of Intels new products look a lot more exciting than anything AMD has talked about.

I remember when the Intel fanboys were saying around the time of the "3200+" AXP, that prescott would be the final nail in AMD's coffin, they whole board seemed to be against AMD at that time, however they were still support due to their price performance ratio they had.

It doesn?t help the image of Intel to enthusiast when they play the "Holier then thou" card and diss everything AMD does, but the quietly goes " Yeah me too for 64 bit", "Yeah me too for Dual core", " Yeah me too for no more Ghz".

Intel maybe be playing sneaky with the release of Smithfield leading up to the summer months, BBQ SEASON ! (light hearted joke)

I own a 2.8C for encoding and ripping so its shows that although I favour the underdog I still turn to Intel for my needs when Hector and the lads can not provide

Id just like to point out that Intel has had dual core on the roadmap for as long as i can remember nearly, it is an inevitability that parrellel processing is the next step to computing.

Wrong. Tejas was supposed to take over from prescott at around 5 Ghz (Single core), then tejas was heading to just over 10 Ghz where nehalem was to take the torch. This was the plan right in to 2006. AMD had dual core on the roadmap since 2001.

Intel only mentioned dual where they saw what a mess netburst was in (or lack of future). Intel only mentioned dual core in 2004

 

[Spikesoldier]

amd beat intel to 1GHz.

 

[clarkey01]

Originally posted by: Spikesoldier
amd beat intel to 1GHz.

Erm..Yeah.

Intel beat AMD to 2 Ghz, 3 Ghz, but even now, Intel says "Mhz Dont Matter"

 

[jbh129]

OK, what products from AMD are you looking forward to. The Turion 64 is just a 90nm socket 754 chip. The revE chips may overclock a little higher than the current batch. Although, they may actually speed bin more accurately which would reduce max oc on on the lower end chips. The FX57 will be a little faster than the FX55. All slight improvements but nothing terribly exciting. My current Winnie runs 270x10 at stock voltage 24/7. There isnt an AMD product out or coming soon that makes me want to upgrade. In the end, I am just bored with AMD and want a new toy.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: jbh129
Some of the new designs that I pointed out are rather interesting. AMD seems to be content with its current performance advantgae.

what that you pointed out ????

 

[clarkey01]

Originally posted by: jbh129
OK, what products from AMD are you looking forward to. The Turion 64 is just a 90nm socket 754 chip. The revE chips may overclock a little higher than the current batch. Although, they may actually speed bin more accurately which would reduce max oc on on the lower end chips. The FX57 will be a little faster than the FX55. All slight improvements but nothing terribly exciting. My current Winnie runs 270x10 at stock voltage 24/7. There isnt an AMD product out or coming soon that makes me want to upgrade. In the end, I am just bored with AMD and want a new toy.

The FX 57 will be 200 Mhz faster then the FX 55, 200 Mhz in AMD land is much more then 200 mhz speed bumps in the netburst world.

Revision E will see 3 Ghz. Yes I am looking forward to that, as currently 2.4 Ghz is equel to or a little biut faster then Intels current gaming performance with thier highest chip.


As for Intel products ? smithfield looks great for BBQ season. Thier 65nm stuff looks good but even Ed put that down saying if your impressed by that to rethink that opinion, ( think ed's a bit harsh) but oh well.

As for AMD products, thier Dual core FX 61/63 looks tastey. K10 is two years off, the K9 has no become the dual core K8's.

 

[jbh129]

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: jbh129
Some of the new designs that I pointed out are rather interesting. AMD seems to be content with its current performance advantgae.

what that you pointed out ????

How about this?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=55514

or this?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=55545

or maybe this?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=54875

and lastly

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=54785

Where do you think info on the 4200+ and turion came out first?

 

[Markfw]

What some extra cache ? and forum links to links to the enuirer ? None of that is even close to believeable for me. I want to see something from a reputable site.

 

[jbh129]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
What some extra cache ? and forum links to links to the enuirer ? None of that is even close to believeable for me. I want to see something from a reputable site.

The dothan 478 adapter should be interesting if it allows overclocking. Dothan on 775 would also be pretty interesting.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Concerning all the observations about how the boards polarized from AMD to Intel to AMD, it is just like sports, fair weather fans "Everybody loves a winner" they jumps on the zealot bandwagon of whoever is "having the best season". Having been a TB Yucs fan for many years, watching "fans" appear in droves win they were winning was enough to make me retch.

As to Intc getting a dual core out first, I read many months back that they would like 75% of their desktop market to be dual core in just a couple years, so their focus is there. They have a greater manufacturing capacity so it shouldn't be a surprise they can start turning these out sooner. I think it is a big positive that Intel is pushing dual core like this, it means the software devs are hard@work to support it

 

[btbam]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Concerning all the observations about how the boards polarized from AMD to Intel to AMD, it is just like sports, fair weather fans "Everybody loves a winner" they jumps on the zealot bandwagon of whoever is "having the best season". Having been a TB Yucs fan for many years, watching "fans" appear in droves win they were winning was enough to make me retch.

As to Intc getting a dual core out first, I read many months back that they would like 75% of their desktop market to be dual core in just a couple years, so their focus is there. They have a greater manufacturing capacity so it shouldn't be a surprise they can start turning these out sooner. I think it is a big positive that Intel is pushing dual core like this, it means the software devs are hard@work to support it

And without the software to support it, it's like a 400hp GTO cruising behind a school bus in a no passing zone.

 

[Duvie]

I actually think AMDs business strategy of releasing this in 940pin opterons first makes more sense for that reason...In the server/ high-end workstation market apps are already smp aware. They wil see advantages now much like they see with dual cpu setups...Ofcourse the advatage for AMD is a bigger money market. I think AMD realizes the desktop market is not necessarily ready for it without the software implementation...

PPL need to brace themselves for steller performance in very certain apps and programs, and very bad or stagnant performance in others. These things will not be set at the makers fastest cpu speed to date. Therefore in those non aware apps it will fall in line similar to the single core cpus..It may do multitasking bettter, but we al know how lame most reviews do on that...

 

[btbam]

I can already see that blonde dude on shop @ home talking about the new dell pc with dual core technology...

"Folk's, imagine you have a dual speed computer, now you can have twice the power of ANY pc on the market for one low price, imagine being able to email friends AND listen to mp3's all at the same time! These are selling fast so pick up the phones and call now to get Intels new dual speed pc, right here from dell and shop @ home"

dramatization: In no why does this post reflect the views or opinions of dell, shop @ home, or the blonde dude

 

[DAPUNISHER]

LOL, it wouldn't be quite that fustrating braddah You could still enjoy the superior multitasking, ability to run multiple instances of DC Projects, and Photoshop and such that already support SMP would still benefit.

 

[btbam]

the other day I hear the blonde dude say


"This is double data rate memory folks, It does twice the amount of work than regular single channel memory, so you don't have to worry about freezing and computer crashes"


exact words!

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: btbam
the other day I hear the blonde dude say


"This is double data rate memory folks, It does twice the amount of work then regular single channel memory, so you don't have to worry about freezing and computer crashes"


exact words!

Not that asshat on the shopNBC again? Jim? He is the biggest tool evar!

 

[btbam]

naw the shawn leflar dude on shot at home er shop

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I've seen him, he lies like a rug. He makes used car salesmen look ethical. How the Fvck did we get here from Intel getting dual core out 1st again?