So why did Donald Trump win? Flipside to the Clinton/lose thread

[agent00f]

You realize that Comey is talking about numbers gathered by the FBI right? The numbers are out there for anyone to see. Its why the two things I linked to before agreed that crime in the inner city areas is going up. But, you would rather dismiss that and everything else as...

Pretty obvious why he'll be highlighting black people rather peeved that a klan-panderer is going to be president instead of increase in hate crime against minorites. Well, maybe not so obvious to forever naive dummies.

 

[flexy]

I watched a nice, informative appearance of Michael Moore on Morning Joe. I have to say I start to like this guy more and more. He absolutely nailed it again....sometimes in a way you want to slap your face in embarrassing hindsight.

Let me just freely recap from memory what he said, among MANY other things in the 45min segment on the show.
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So basically, you have these people in middle America, rural America, and elsewhere who live paycheck to paycheck. Poor, struggling. Every April 10th, they do their taxes. Like anyone else, they try paying as little as even possible to the gvt, or better, nothing at all.
Then. The debates going on. It comes to the allegations that Trump didn't release his tax returns.
Clinton, ranting:
"The only years that anybody's ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn't pay any federal income tax"

Trump, bending down to the microphone, "That makes me smart."

[Hundreds of thousands of the struggling, those people who don't want pay anything each April 10th, now likely cheering and clapping right there watching this. They found their hero!! THIS IS THEIR MAN. THIS IS THE MAN I AM VOTING FOR!!]
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And this is why Trump won, among many other things.

 

[realibrad]

Pretty obvious why he'll be highlighting black people rather peeved that a klan-panderer is going to be president instead of increase in hate crime against minorites. Well, maybe not so obvious to forever naive dummies.

The FBI data shows a big increase in inner city violence. Trump did not make that up. Comey did not make that up. Your narrative that Trump shit on inner cities if false.

 

[agent00f]

The FBI data shows a big increase in inner city violence. Trump did not make that up. Comey did not make that up. Your narrative that Trump shit on inner cities if false.

No sure why you feel the need to reinforce my comments.

 

[baydude]

Could any of the GOP candidates beat Hillary if even DNC thinks she was flawed?

 

[agent00f]

Could any of the GOP candidates beat Hillary if even DNC thinks she was flawed?

Only if they promise to build a wall to keep out mexicans and ban muslims and whatever else about minorities.

Claiming the black president is kenyan muslim also helps.

 

[buckshot24]

Only if they promise to build a wall to keep out mexicans and ban muslims and whatever else about minorities.

Claiming the black president is kenyan muslim also helps.

Build a wall to control the border better. Should we not control our border?

 

[agent00f]

Build a wall to control the border better. Should we not control our border?

Let me break it down into little pieces. Trump doesn't give a shit about mexicans or black people, good or bad. He's using the border wall and inner city violence as rhetorical devices to rile up your friends, same as this minority or that as rapists/terrorists and so on. He literally gives zero shits what he has to say as long as he can grab that vote with his small greedy hands. Guess what, he doesn't give a shit about you either, unless you have something else to offer him. Yet here you & brad are, accusing him of offering facts, which is absolutely hilarious if not so pathetically naive.

People like that are sharks, and you dunces are their natural prey.

 

[shady28]

Let me break it down into little pieces. Trump doesn't give a shit about mexicans or black people, good or bad. He's using the border wall and inner city violence as rhetorical devices to rile up your friends, same as this minority or that as rapists/terrorists and so on. He literally gives zero shits what he has to say as long as he can grab that vote with his small greedy hands. Guess what, he doesn't give a shit about you either, unless you have something else to offer him. Yet here you & brad are, accusing him of offering facts, which is absolutely hilarious if not so pathetically naive.

People like that are sharks, and you dunces are their natural prey.

So, your argument is that Trump is just like Hillary and the DNC?

 

[agent00f]

So, your argument is that Trump is just like Hillary and the DNC?

The US system in the scheme of things is still relatively uncorrupted with politicians still running for ego and sometimes even idealistic reasons. That's why they might fight to save a shitload of jobs in that rust belt, even if they're aware it's not exactly full of virtuous people who'll have their back. Trump is more like Putin, or at least wants to be, since people around him get very rich. The kind of rich where you don't have to sell appearances to banks for chump change because you are the bank. Won't worry, you'll get to see how the rest of the world is like is soon enough.

Before you feel compelled to reply, try to ponder what you might of that world compared to someone who's actually seen it.

 

[shady28]

The US system in the scheme of things is still relatively uncorrupted with politicians still running for ego and sometimes even idealistic reasons. That's why they might fight to save a shitload of jobs in that rust belt, even if they're aware it's not exactly full of virtuous people who'll have their back. Trump is more like Putin, or at least wants to be, since people around him get very rich. The kind of rich where you don't have to sell appearances to banks for chump change because you are the bank. Won't worry, you'll get to see how the rest of the world is like is soon enough.

Before you feel compelled to reply, try to ponder what you might of that world compared to someone who's actually seen it.

Oh pray tell, do share with us your great wisdom and experience of "the world".

Especially how your great "experience" allowed you to discern how this election was going to work out...

Anyone paying attention here knows you are just a narcissistic troll and one of the pack of race-baiting forum thugs that were cultivated here in the P&N echo chamber.

How many times have you been called out for that in the last 2 days, hm?

Should we send you some Play-Doh and a coloring book so you can cool down in your 'safe space'?

 

[buckshot24]

Let me break it down into little pieces. Trump doesn't give a shit about mexicans or black people, good or bad. He's using the border wall and inner city violence as rhetorical devices to rile up your friends, same as this minority or that as rapists/terrorists and so on. He literally gives zero shits what he has to say as long as he can grab that vote with his small greedy hands. Guess what, he doesn't give a shit about you either, unless you have something else to offer him. Yet here you & brad are, accusing him of offering facts, which is absolutely hilarious if not so pathetically naive.

People like that are sharks, and you dunces are their natural prey.

Do you have an actual answer, sir?

 

[buckshot24]

So, your argument is that Trump is just like Hillary and the DNC?

He's still triggered from what happened earlier in the week. Reason isn't available to him at the moment, if it ever was.

 

[agent00f]

Do you have an actual answer, sir?

Apparently it's a question without a suitable answer for simpletons.

He's still triggered from what happened earlier in the week. Reason isn't available to him at the moment, if it ever was.

It's not favorable for someone like you to invoke "reason" or any sort of thinking based argument.

 

[buckshot24]

Apparently it's a question without a suitable answer for simpletons.



It's not favorable for someone like you to invoke "reason" or any sort of thinking based argument.

Instead of answering a simple question, you insult me. Do you have an actual answer or are you going to just name call? Your name calling is irrelevant.

By name calling you're not showing any reasoning by the way. Use your big brain and give me some answers, please.

Can we secure our border or should be let everybody just come and go as they please? What is wrong with securing the border?

 

[shady28]

He's still triggered from what happened earlier in the week. Reason isn't available to him at the moment, if it ever was.

Pretty sure it never was. I'm guessing the mental hospital tested too many drugs on him this past week.

 

[buckshot24]

Pretty sure it never was. I'm guessing the mental hospital tested too many drugs on him this past week.

It is nuts, isn't it? I ask a simple question and he goes all chem trails on me.

 

[agent00f]

Instead of answering a simple question, you insult me. Do you have an actual answer or are you going to just name call? Your name calling is irrelevant.

By name calling you're not showing any reasoning by the way. Use your big brain and give me some answers, please.

Can we secure our border or should be let everybody just come and go as they please? What is wrong with securing the border?

I suspect you're confusing me with the following gentlemen whose debate experience heralds from the trail park.

I've already informed you that the point of trump's rhetoric is to get the dunces to ignore core issues and blame their problems on scapegoats, which really can't be more obvious given your performance on command here. I suppose it was too much to expect that you could figure anything out.

Oh pray tell, do share with us your great wisdom and experience of "the world".

Especially how your great "experience" allowed you to discern how this election was going to work out...

Anyone paying attention here knows you are just a narcissistic troll and one of the pack of race-baiting forum thugs that were cultivated here in the P&N echo chamber.

How many times have you been called out for that in the last 2 days, hm?

Should we send you some Play-Doh and a coloring book so you can cool down in your 'safe space'?

I'm sure this all makes sense in that head along with mexican rapists, black thugs, and the real reason why educators didn't find it very promising. See, if you were smart, you would've figured out that invoking coloring books isn't great idea against people better known for reading the sort with words in them.

 

[buckshot24]

I suspect you're confusing me with the following gentlemen whose debate experience heralds from the trail park.

I've already informed you that the point of trump's rhetoric is to get the dunces to ignore core issues and blame their problems on scapegoats, which really can't be more obvious given your performance on command here. I suppose it was too much to expect that you could figure anything out.

"Trail park"? If you mean trailer park then I haven't lived in one for 40 years when my parents moved us into a house. Your insults are irrelevant and your opinion is worth about as much as what I flushed down the toilet earlier.

But lets say you're right that Trump is just tricking the rubes into believing him. How does that answer my question? Is it wrong to secure our border? Should we let anybody and everybody come and go as they please? Do you have an answer?

 

[agent00f]

"Trail park"? If you mean trailer park then I haven't lived in one for 40 years when my parents moved us into a house. Your insults are irrelevant and your opinion is worth about as much as what I flushed down the toilet earlier.

See, people would take you more seriously if you can at least figure out really basic things, like who "the following gentlemen" refers to instead of volunteering.

But lets say you're right that Trump is just tricking the rubes into believing him. How does that answer my question? Is it wrong to secure our border? Should we let anybody and everybody come and go as they please? Do you have an answer?

Are you really expecting me to be as gullible as you?

 

[buckshot24]

See, people would take you more seriously if you can at least figure out really basic things, like who "the following gentlemen" refers to instead of volunteering.



Are you really expecting me to be as gullible as you?

Do you have an answer or are you going to continue the insults? I'm expecting an answer. What is wrong with securing our border? Should we let anybody and everybody come and go as they please?

I wasn't sure what you were talking about, you sound like a raving lunatic to be honest with you. Any answer or are you going to continue like this?

 

[agent00f]

Do you have an answer or are you going to continue the insults? I'm expecting an answer. What is wrong with securing our border? Should we let anybody and everybody come and go as they please?

I wasn't sure what you were talking about, you sound like a raving lunatic to be honest with you. Any answer or are you going to continue like this?

I think you should be more grateful that someone with brains is explaining this to you.

Trump is conning simpletons into scapegoating minorities. The simpleton are thus expected to change the dialog to whatever dumbshit idea he plants in their head. Smart persons realize this because with the advantage/benefit of conscious perspective they're not so gullible. They don't talk about whatever trump wants them to. Dunce can't understand this because they lack those abilities, thus all they every want to talk about is what Trump & co plants in their little head.

Good god our k-12 educators are not paid enough.

 

[buckshot24]

I think you should be more grateful that someone with brains is explaining this to you.

Trump is conning simpletons into scapegoating minorities. The simpleton are thus expected to change the dialog to whatever dumbshit idea he plants in their head. Smart persons realize this because with the advantage/benefit of conscious perspective they're not so gullible. They don't talk about whatever trump wants them to. Dunce can't understand this because they lack those abilities, thus all they every want to talk about is what Trump & co plants in their little head.

Good god our k-12 educators are not paid enough.

Lets grant you're right. What is wrong with securing our border? Should we allow anybody and everybody to come and go as they please?

 

[agent00f]

Lets grant you're right. What is wrong with securing our border? Should we allow anybody and everybody to come and go as they please?

Christ, have some self-respect. Not even the mentally handicapped purposely try to be more stupid.