globally, AIDS is much much more common among straights, but only if you take Africa into account (which seems reasonable since Africa accounts for 62% of the infected and the western world accounts for, like... 3%)
The problem with Ronstang's argument isn't the statistics. It's that it is an inherently flawed position. Gay sex isn't more risky than straight sex, an open lifestyle with multiple partners is as risky as an open lifestyle with multiple partners, regardless of who those partners happen to be. That simple. Anyone who clouds that issue is letting their bias and hate get the better of them.
On top of that, Ronstang's comments are pretty much the most transparent flame bait I've read here since the last Religion thread.
Pliablemoose
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Well, honestly back then, it (assuming Freddie was gay) just wasn't on the table, everyone was in the closet, rumors were quelled quickly, think modern baseball & football...
MichaelD
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There is no such thing as bisexual. You either have sex with men or you do not have sex with men. If you have sex with men, then you are gay (assuming you're a man, obviously). If you also have sex with women, then you are just confused and have not made up your mind that you are gay, yet.
Having sex with a man or men doesn't necessarily mean you're a gay male. It has to do with sexual attraction. And yes, people can be attracted to both. It's not like having sex with a man is some threshold that, once reached, defines you for life.
Freddie Mercury was openly bisexual. It just wasn't well known by most Queen fans. However, he did deny having AIDS until the day before his death.
gsellis
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There are several flaws with your statement. The sexual practices that gay men use are riskier in their infection rates. Some in the category increase the risk with even larger diversity of partners at random more so than a similar population of open folks. And when Freddy was infected, the population rates showed that gay men and drug users were the highest population rate per percentage. Plus, the risks were poorly understood and communicated.
And since you will probably acuse me of 'hate' because I disagree, I have seen 2 family friends and 1 business partner die. Ronny, the business partner, was the worst as he had dementia for the longest time. It pushed Bruce into becoming a MD. Bruce later died too. Fortunately, most of our closer friends were long-term, monogamous couples during that time.
Squisher
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Being a little older my wife and I talk about this every time we see someone from that past that has been found out to be gay. "How did we not know?"
Heck, when Boy George first hit the scene I'm sure I probably wondered if he was just playing dress up.
Naive.
Heck, when Boy George first hit the scene I'm sure I probably wondered if he was just playing dress up.
Naive.
PlasmaBomb
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Mercury referred to himself as "gay" in a 1974 interview with NME magazine.
Edit: In fact other than Mary Austin (in the 70's) I don't know of any other female partners...
TastesLikeChicken
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Yeah, he once proclaimed during an interview "I'm gay as a daffodil, dear."
That singular admission aside, Freddie regularly referred to himself as "bisexual." He also claimed that his longtime girlfriend Mary Astor was his common law wife. He left his estate to her when he died.
JulesMaximus
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Being gay isn't a death sentence. Being promiscuous and gay definitely increases your chances of contracting AIDS though.
It is too bad he had such a short life though. I would have liked to see Queen live.
AnonymouseUser
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I thought he was gay the first time I saw a Wham video. I was truly shocked by how he managed to "go straight" as a solo singer.
JulesMaximus
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AnonymouseUser
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JulesMaximus
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Billy Squire doesn't appear to be too concerned with the stigma of being gay in this video either (although I don't think that was the intent) but this video is credited with single-handedly ruining his career.
Freddie Mercury was ahead of his time I'd say and pushed the envelope of what was acceptable. I don't think he cared if people knew who or what he was. He never tried to convince people he was straight.
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