So who's dumping their 7800 GTX for a X1800 XT?

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akugami

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Fanboy crap aside, if you look at the recent history of the video card releases, both ATI and nVidia have been pretty much neck and neck. One nudges in front of the other here and there but it's mostly been an even race (performance and feature wise).

I'm of the opinion that if the X1800 doesn't offer noticeable feature enhancements over the 7800gtx, I'll skip this generation of video cards. The only thing so far that might tip the balance in favor of getting a new video card is the AVIVO features. Quite frankly while the fanboys were ranting and raving about the performance of a 7800gtx and 7800gtx in sli mode, I was yawning through the whole thing. Am I wrong in wanting something more from a card that the video card manufactorers are charging $400-600 for? Am I wrong in thinking the performance increases, while decent, didn't make it worthy of upgrading from a single 6800 or x800 card if you already had one of those?

And it's not really the money, but rather the bang for the buck I'm after. I can afford a gee whiz bang computer with 4GB of RAM, 2x 7800GTX's, X2 4400's, etc. However, the bang for the buck would be complete crap. It's one of the reasons that while I have a SLI capable mobo, I will never use SLI mode. ATI, nVidia, make me want to buy your video cards. Don't give me marketing BS.

I have an X800 and the AVIVO features being what I'm really looking at, with the overall gaming benchmarks as a secondary factor in the X1800 cards, I'll have to say that if I had a 7800, I wouldn't get the X1800 unless the AVIVO features were very very compelling for what I do.

All will be answered in less than 24 hours. Probably benchmarks will be released at the stroke of midnight EST.


PS: Am I the only one that think the current insane video card prices were partially the fault of bad yield of the high end video cards? ATI and nVidia having noticed the prices some people were willing to pay for video cards are pricing them higher and higher. Three or so years ago the newest top end video cards costed maybe $300-400 upon release, now they cost $600.
 

Dethfrumbelo

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The cost of everything is (hyper)inflating lately - energy prices, real estate, college tuition, health insurance, food, you name it. Why not video cards as well?

It almost appears as if the establishment wants to send everyone into bankruptcy, into debt slavery. But no, why would they want to do that? :)
 

imported_michaelpatrick33

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I think ATI dominates NVIDIA in every area except all those areas where NVIDIA dominates ATI. :roll:
errr

So stick that in your trollpipe and say shimmer mcdimmer I am a dumb one :laugh:
 

5150Joker

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Originally posted by: BroadbandGamer
If the specs that have leaked out are true I'm seriously thinking about picking one up and giving my kid my 7800 GTX.

What do you guys think? Anyone else thinking of doing the same?


Definitely not me.
 

5150Joker

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: M0RPH
Originally posted by: Rollo

As far as trading, I doubt it. I've spent a lot of money on the two 7800GTXs, they have great performance, I can't see dumping them and eating a big loss just to get more frames on games I'm already running great at the limits of my monitor anyway.

You miss the whole point. The appeal of the R520 cards will be primarily all the new features and IQ improvements they bring to the table, regardless of how much faster it is.

You miss the point- it's not worth losing $100s of dollars to me to sell my 7800GTX SLI/motherboard at a big loss, and buy two R520s and a ATI motherboard to get "new features".

It may be nice to have AA with HDR on the couple games that have it, but it's not worth $100s of dollars and a ton of work switching out my computer to get it.

Do you understand now?



Same reasons for me in addition to my hunch that the R520 just won't be as impressive as some hope it to be. I'm thinking my GTX clocked at 490/1300 will easily keep pace and probably exceed the R520 in a lot of games.
 

imported_Rampage

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Originally posted by: M0RPH
Originally posted by: Rollo

As far as trading, I doubt it. I've spent a lot of money on the two 7800GTXs, they have great performance, I can't see dumping them and eating a big loss just to get more frames on games I'm already running great at the limits of my monitor anyway.

You miss the whole point. The appeal of the R520 cards will be primarily all the new features and IQ improvements they bring to the table, regardless of how much faster it is.

I wish you would just die.
 

Hacp

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btw guys, Nvidia will probably still be on top in terms of performance until the XT launches.
 

chinkgai

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i have a 7800 gtx, if anyone wants to trade an x1800xt for it if they got an x1800xt...pm me
 

chinkgai

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Originally posted by: southpawuni
I wish you would just die.

taken from another thread:

Originally posted by: southpawuni
And Rollos been saying what you just spent your time learning for some time from what I can tell.

Sometimes the most persecuted people are the ones who are right. So in ways... Rollo is kind of like Jesus, Socrates, or Ghandi.
The others? The sophists. :-D

i think you need to die from suffocation of your head so far up rollo's ass
 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: chinkgai
Originally posted by: southpawuni
I wish you would just die.

taken from another thread:

Originally posted by: southpawuni
And Rollos been saying what you just spent your time learning for some time from what I can tell.

Sometimes the most persecuted people are the ones who are right. So in ways... Rollo is kind of like Jesus, Socrates, or Ghandi.
The others? The sophists. :-D

i think you need to die from suffocation of your head so far up rollo's ass

pwn3d.
 

bdoople

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: chinkgai
Originally posted by: southpawuni
I wish you would just die.

taken from another thread:

Originally posted by: southpawuni
And Rollos been saying what you just spent your time learning for some time from what I can tell.

Sometimes the most persecuted people are the ones who are right. So in ways... Rollo is kind of like Jesus, Socrates, or Ghandi.
The others? The sophists. :-D

i think you need to die from suffocation of your head so far up rollo's ass

pwn3d.



What is it that they say.. Rollowned?
 

secretanchitman

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personally, i wouldnt because i completely dislike ATI's drivers and nvidias are much more streamlined and cleaner to use. IMO, not meaning to start any flame wars...