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So who ISN'T voting for Billery in 2008?

palehorse

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Dec 21, 2005
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I will never vote for Hillary; but, like you, I am very interested in seeing what develops with Obama.

Hillary is the only candidate that I've already dismissed.
 

lozina

Lifer
Sep 10, 2001
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Who could I vote for? They are all crap.

I would vote for Kucinic but the media almost totally ignores him so he gets no recognition. They only mention him if they are trying to poke fun like declaring him the "longshot candidate".

 

Lemon law

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Nov 6, 2005
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Sad to say, but modern American politics seems to weed out rational types and all that are left are some variety of total buffoons sporting either elephant or donkey labels. In such a situation it would be nice to have some more rational third parties but when you are talking libertarians, you are talking non starters also. And the other danger of third parties is that they will play the role of spoiler, splitting the vote and allowing the greater evil to win. And voting for Nader in 2000 probably doomed Gore--and we got GWB.

So I have to laugh when someone posts a thread like this. While I am not happy will Hillery Clinton, I am almost positive the Republican can easily come up with a candidate in 08 who will make Hillary look positively angelic in comparison should she be the democratic nominee. The republicans can also
come up with a candidate who I think is a better choice than Hillery.

But now a days you don't get rational candidates so you vote for the lesser of two evils.
 

Arcex

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Mar 23, 2005
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I'll vote for Hilliary if there are no decent candidates only to get Bill back in the White House, I'm not sure about Obama, I've said it a few times before but he needs more experience running a large-scale government. I don't see any Republican candidates I'd be interested in voting for, but then again I haven't been interested in a Republican candidate since... ever.

God bless America, were we have 50 options for Miss America, but only 2 options for President of the United States. Long live 2 party democracy!

/rant off
 

k1pp3r

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Aug 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: Trinitron
I'm not! Weee! :D

I would vote for Mr. Obama though.

Honestly i wouldn't vote for either, they both seem to be taking universal healthcare as their primary issue, and i think that would be a huge mistake for this country.

To make both sides fair, no candidate is standing out right now.
 

imported_Shivetya

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Jul 7, 2005
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well its not like hers or Obama's websites actually tell you how they stand on the issues.


Why is it the two press favorites provide the least information about themselves?



As for Hillary, never ever ever ever.
 

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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Im not in electoral college, so not voting for anyone *shrug*

The only election I dont vote in.
 

Red Dawn

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Jun 4, 2001
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Well if her opponent were Newt, Mitt or some other Repulican of their ilk I might. Regarding McCain, it would depend on his stances when he does run (I mean his real stances, not the ones he's stating now for the sake of party unity)
 

palehorse

Lifer
Dec 21, 2005
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Originally posted by: Lemon law
Sad to say, but modern American politics seems to weed out rational types and all that are left are some variety of total buffoons sporting either elephant or donkey labels. In such a situation it would be nice to have some more rational third parties but when you are talking libertarians, you are talking non starters also.
/agreed

And the other danger of third parties is that they will play the role of spoiler, splitting the vote and allowing the greater evil to win. And voting for Nader in 2000 probably doomed Gore--and we got GWB.
...and votes for Perot in 1992 got us Clinton... so you're right.
 

Rainsford

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Apr 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Well if her opponent were Newt, Mitt or some other Repulican of their ilk I might. Regarding McCain, it would depend on his stances when he does run (I mean his real stances, not the ones he's stating now for the sake of party unity)

I like McCain's personal views on a lot of things, but like most politicians he's shown himself to be a pretty annoying tool when it comes to actually standing up for what he thinks. Hell, GWB himself is better at really saying what he thinks than McCain is, and THAT is not a good selling point for McCain. I'm convinced I agree with McCain on a number of issues, just as I'm equally convinced he's not going to stick by his views if the wind blows the other way. I was ready to like him again when he took a principled stand against our treatment of detainees, but with Republican pressure he folded like a cheap card table. He's just another politician, no matter how much he tries to convince us otherwise.

As for the topic, I don't think I'd vote for Hillary. I don't have this pathological hatred of her like a disturbingly large number of people seem to have, but I strongly disagree with her socially conservative "pro-family" nonsense.
 

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
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I really know about zero of her stances, but I can say I find her highly irritating on the subject of video games and her continued stance of censorship towards them.

Looking at her website, she's always very careful to not give an opinion on the Iraq matter, so that doesn't sit well with me either. Be for or against, please - but be something.
 

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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Originally posted by: yllus
I really know about zero of her stances, but I can say I find her highly irritating on the subject of video games and her continued stance of censorship towards them.

Looking at her website, she's always very careful to not give an opinion on the Iraq matter, so that doesn't sit well with me either. Be for or against, please - but be something.

Well, decide for yourself...here's her full voting record. I'll withold personal opinion and you folks decide for yourselves:

http://www.vote-smart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=WNY99268
 

Thump553

Lifer
Jun 2, 2000
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Is "Billery" the latest label Rush and the other blowhards are attaching to Hillary Clinton? How childish. How typical.
 

Fern

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Originally posted by: Shivetya

Why is it the two press favorites provide the least information about themselves?

It's called "quit when you're ahead" ;)

Fern