So who invented this whole 'low impact exercise' myth?

[phucheneh]

I'm tired of people telling me that running is 'bad for you.' It seems to be gaining steam at popular 'knowledge' that running will turn your knees to gelatinous capsules of arthritis.

Is there actual research on this? I.e. can someone show me a marathon runner who ended up in a wheelchair? Why don't we hear about all our crippled former Olympians? Wouldn't those people be more at risk than anyone?

I'm chalking this up to another excuse for laziness. Running can be hard; therefore I should walk. I guess if that works for you, and it's the difference between some exercise and none...alright then. But I know I get nothing from walking; my legs are stout enough that I can walk indefinitely, which is not productive for any kind of timely 'workout.' And there is no walking pace fast enough to properly elevate my heart rate and breathing, other than perhaps one of those absurd speed-walking styles.

I can't believe THAT's an Olympic sport now. It looks like a bunch of people that have to pee trying to get to a single-toilet bathroom before the others.

 

[olds]

I did. What are you going to do about it?

 

[who?]

Marathon running is bad for the heart which is probably why Micah True died. For low impact exercise try cycling. Cardiologists now recommend heavy aerobic exercise no than 40 minutes no more than 3 times a week.

 

[jersiq]

I did. What are you going to do about it?

And I peer reviewed Olds article.
So now you have no leg to stand on.

Go fix your water main.

 

[phucheneh]

For low impact exercise try cycling.

I don't like sex with men. :whiste:

AGo fix your water main.

I'm gettin' to it.

 

[Miramonti]

I exercise but don't run, and have yet to need a wheelchair.

There is your proof.

 

[nickbits]

Running used to hurt my knees, not so much now.

But in the long run I do think it is bad for them. Knee replacement surgery wasn't invented for nothing.

 

[Bateluer]

I'm tired of people telling me that running is 'bad for you.' It seems to be gaining steam at popular 'knowledge' that running will turn your knees to gelatinous capsules of arthritis.

Is there actual research on this? I.e. can someone show me a marathon runner who ended up in a wheelchair? Why don't we hear about all our crippled former Olympians? Wouldn't those people be more at risk than anyone?

I'm chalking this up to another excuse for laziness. Running can be hard; therefore I should walk. I guess if that works for you, and it's the difference between some exercise and none...alright then. But I know I get nothing from walking; my legs are stout enough that I can walk indefinitely, which is not productive for any kind of timely 'workout.' And there is no walking pace fast enough to properly elevate my heart rate and breathing, other than perhaps one of those absurd speed-walking styles.

I can't believe THAT's an Olympic sport now. It looks like a bunch of people that have to pee trying to get to a single-toilet bathroom before the others.

I make a point to slap anyone stupid enough to say running is bad for you. But you might want to look up the Olympic power walking times. They make look incredibly silly, but they're moving fast.

Marathon running is bad for the heart which is probably why Micah True died. For low impact exercise try cycling. Cardiologists now recommend heavy aerobic exercise no than 40 minutes no more than 3 times a week.

Baldurdash. Micah True was an ultra runner. And those cardiologists are asshats.


Source: I'm an ultra runner.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Run on a regular basis and also play basketball on a regular basis. Im the only 32 year old guy on the court. The rest of the guys are 27 at the oldest. Must be doing something right.

 

[esun]

Well running isn't exactly low impact and I personally do have knee problems from running, but of course the fitness benefits undoubtedly outweigh the injury concerns.

However, it is also true that jogging for 40 minutes isn't as efficient as doing high intensity intervals instead (e.g., 15 minutes of alternating sprinting and walking each minute). Jogging isn't as unpleasant as interval training though (IMO, anyway).

 

[xSkyDrAx]

The speed walking is no joke. Good ones are hitting 4 to 5 minute miles. Most people can't even run that fast.

 

[Vic Vega]

The speed walking is no joke. Good ones are hitting 4 to 5 minute miles. Most people can't even run that fast.

What?

Sorry, I don't believe it. I ran a 6 minute mile in high school and I was hauling ass. No one is doing it "speed walking" let alone 4 minutes!?!

 

[Capt Caveman]

Hope the mods leave this stupid thread here and don't move it to the H&F.

Long distance runner who needs to go to bed now for a half-marathon in the morning.

 

[CPA]

I am 43 and no longer have any cartilage in either knee. It's a result of squats, deadlifts and running since I was 16, I have no doubt. And my orthopedic surgeon has no doubt.

 

[mnewsham]

I can't believe THAT's an Olympic sport now.

Racewalking has been an Olympic sport since 1908...

 

[phucheneh]

Racewalking has been an Olympic sport since 1908...

Really?

...I'm still going to have to go with 'it's retarded,' either way. 'Okay guys, we're gonna race, but you can't look like you're running.'

When are they gonna officially recognize 'hurdles with a broomstick up your butt' as a sport? Same thing, basically.

Also, anecdotal evidence is...anecdotal. Just because someone used to be athletic and now they have bad knees (or hips or back ect) doesn't exactly pose a strong correlation. By that logic, smoking and eating garbage causes you to live past 90 years old...yeah, there are plenty of accounts of people with poor health habits that have lived that long, but it's not the norm (...I'm still giving it a try, though). You could also say that because people have died while exercising, 'exercise = death.'

I'd put slightly more weight into long studies like the Stanford one that completed a few years ago (tracked 20 years), which I believe noted that, on average, runners lasted sixteen more years without a disability.

 

[Megatomic]

Baldurdash. Micah True was an ultra runner. And those cardiologists are asshats.


Source: I'm an ultra runner.

Seconded.

 

[Zivic]

I'd put slightly more weight into long studies like the Stanford one that completed a few years ago (tracked 20 years), which I believe noted that, on average, runners lasted sixteen more years without a disability.

lasted longer compared to what other group? the fat@sses that don't exercise at all?

I have attempted to run, recently even bought a nice mill to run on. no matter how I try, I cannot continue it more than 2-3 wks before I have some sort of impact related pain/injury.

I am a big dude now, but have tried when I was lean and it makes no difference.

Usually it starts with shin splints... cured this with some proper shoes for the most part. then the pain hits in the knees and gradually becomes worse and worse. it eventually starts into my lower back. between the knees and back, there is no way I can continue.

if running works for you, great, but I'll look else where for cardio/fat loss. I like walking and being able to lift weights too much to run.

Besides, who the heck wants a body like a marathon runner?

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

I have Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome -- running was apparently a bad idea, and after a few years of doing it in the Air Force, I'm pretty much a cripple.

 

[Murloc]

Really?

...I'm still going to have to go with 'it's retarded,' either way. 'Okay guys, we're gonna race, but you can't look like you're running.'

When are they gonna officially recognize 'hurdles with a broomstick up your butt' as a sport? Same thing, basically.

It makes way more sense than hurdles with a broomstick up your butt because it's a real physical activity just like swimming and has real utility just like swimming.
In modern society running is not always socially acceptable, and if you're arab and in an american airport you might get shot so it's outright dangerous. Thus it's useful when you're losing a plane or train. Also if you run towards a bathroom you will look like a abusive/unfair guy if someone was going there too. If you start running when you see gypsies you will look like a pussy or racist and get noticed.
In all these situations, walking at a brisk pace will not look not out of the line. You can keep face and remove yourself from the premises in a timely manner at the same time.

I'm tired of people telling me that running is 'bad for you.' It seems to be gaining steam at popular 'knowledge' that running will turn your knees to gelatinous capsules of arthritis.

Is there actual research on this? I.e. can someone show me a marathon runner who ended up in a wheelchair? Why don't we hear about all our crippled former Olympians? Wouldn't those people be more at risk than anyone?

I think you have to compare it to the gen pop.
And there is people who get permanent problems with their knees because they did jogging.
Not all of them, but some. If they didn't run and went swimming or something instead, they'd not have had that problem. So if you have to pick a sport, running isn't the safest option, just as weight lifting and other stuff isn't. People who do sports get injured at some point in their life, with some sports there's a higher chance it happens. I've never heard of someone who had joint problems because of swimming or cycling (excluding accidents).

 

[brad310]

I'm tired of people telling me that running is 'bad for you.' It seems to be gaining steam at popular 'knowledge' that running will turn your knees to gelatinous capsules of arthritis.

Is there actual research on this? I.e. can someone show me a marathon runner who ended up in a wheelchair? Why don't we hear about all our crippled former Olympians? Wouldn't those people be more at risk than anyone?

I'm chalking this up to another excuse for laziness. Running can be hard; therefore I should walk. I guess if that works for you, and it's the difference between some exercise and none...alright then. But I know I get nothing from walking; my legs are stout enough that I can walk indefinitely, which is not productive for any kind of timely 'workout.' And there is no walking pace fast enough to properly elevate my heart rate and breathing, other than perhaps one of those absurd speed-walking styles.

I can't believe THAT's an Olympic sport now. It looks like a bunch of people that have to pee trying to get to a single-toilet bathroom before the others.

As someone who had to run 10 miles every monday in the army...running was bad for my feet. We ran 20 miles a week and had timed road marched a minimum of 50km/month for PT...aside from everything else infantry work involves.

If you think you can walk indefinitely, then you are not using walking as an exercise. You can load yourself up. Increase speed. Increase incline. Change your footing (sand, snow, road, marsh). Grab a weighted vest or a backpack and load it with about 80 lbs. See how long you can walk at 4mph. Prepare to be humbled...cause it sounds like you need alot of it.

Thats the standard for infantry. 4mph. With pack. 12miles (20km)...in 3 hours or less.

Yes racewalking is dumb. I agree...but just because something doesnt appeal to you doesnt invalidate it to the rest of the world. I had horse dancing and cant believe THAT is in the olympics...but i dont come on here and talk about how lame everyone else is.

 

[Conscript]

If you're fat and out of shape, then yes its high impact and a detriment to your knees and ankles

 

[jman19]

lasted longer compared to what other group? the fat@sses that don't exercise at all?

I have attempted to run, recently even bought a nice mill to run on. no matter how I try, I cannot continue it more than 2-3 wks before I have some sort of impact related pain/injury.

I am a big dude now, but have tried when I was lean and it makes no difference.

Usually it starts with shin splints... cured this with some proper shoes for the most part. then the pain hits in the knees and gradually becomes worse and worse. it eventually starts into my lower back. between the knees and back, there is no way I can continue.

if running works for you, great, but I'll look else where for cardio/fat loss. I like walking and being able to lift weights too much to run.

Besides, who the heck wants a body like a marathon runner?

Sounds like you are either starting off too hard whenever you get yourself back on the treadmill, or your form is bad. Or both.

I find it hard to believe that you haven't noticed a difference between running while heavy and running while lean. The latter is much, much easier in my opinion (running before I lost ~20 lbs and after was like night and day).

No doubt running is hard on the body but there are ways to avoid injuries and (too much) pain.

 

[Zivic]

Sounds like you are either starting off too hard whenever you get yourself back on the treadmill, or your form is bad. Or both.

I find it hard to believe that you haven't noticed a difference between running while heavy and running while lean. The latter is much, much easier in my opinion (running before I lost ~20 lbs and after was like night and day).

No doubt running is hard on the body but there are ways to avoid injuries and (too much) pain.

I ran at ~165 lbs (sub 6% bodyfat).... really was hard on my back couldn't break 1.5 miles per session and after about 20 days, I had to stop lifting due to the pain. I would rather lift than run, so I quit running. I am a more stout 220 (15% bodyfat) now, and have had a better time running now. I have done 3 miles at times, but still after 2-3 wks, my knees and back just ache too much to continue.

I am sure it has a lot to do with form as well

 

[lotus503]

I don't like sex with men. :whiste:



I'm gettin' to it.

It's called cycling, not bathhouse rumba.
I guess your junk is too small for lycra