So where do we go once we die?

[Nocturnal]

My grandfather passed away this past Saturday. I am very saddened but I believe we have eternal life with the lord Jesus Christ.

Sometimes I don't believe then sometimes I do. It's so hard. I just hope that I make it to the otherside if I do die.

Besides the Christianity bashing etc, where do you think we go once we die?

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Heaven or Boston - depending on whether you've been good or bad.

 

[EmperorOfIceCream]

who are we? our body dissipates as time passes by,
our feelings we feel physically,
our thoughts...how close are they to motion?

Consciousness exists...but where?

Maybe we don't go anywhere at all...

 

[Nocturnal]

Originally posted by: EmperorOfIceCream
who are we? our body dissipates as time passes by,
our feelings we feel physically,
our thoughts...how close are they to motion?

Consciousness exists...but where?

Maybe we don't go anywhere at all...

Good thought. I just want to believe that I'll be reunited with my loved ones once again. I just want to believe. I try to believe.

 

[notfred]

I think we rot away in a hole in the ground, personally.

 

[Nocturnal]

Does anyone else want to believe that we all go somewhere and are reunited with family and friends? I do lol.

 

[So]

<south park>
- You killed me.
- Yeah, so? Where was I gonna go, Detroit?
</south park>

 

[DWW]

The part that always gets me is this...
(I was raised Christian so religious views aside)

Time always existed before us. Before the universe. It is infinite in either direction in my opinion. Even when the universe collapses, there will still be time (not in the sense we measure by the stars) forever. And before God (God itself is debatable) there was always time infinitely in that direction.

So if you think about it there was an eternity before you came to be and there will be an eternity after you die ... or some crazy stuff Ignore me its 3:31AM here but yeah I always think about that.

It is infinite in either direction and when you were born, thats it, thats the beginning of the universe to you but (IMO) time always existed...which is ....... confusing? err yeah

So when I get really into it...for some reason, I believe God must exist

 

[Nocturnal]

I just wish he'd show me a sign, show his face, show me that he is real and exists. I'd do anything and everything for him. I'm sure everyone says the same. The thing is, he wants us all to have faith. It's hard though but I guess I'll get by.

 

[Gurck]

Don't know, but I'm sorry for your loss

 

[DWW]

Well think that you being here is reason enough to believe. If you think about your existence hard enough its almost crazy. I rarely think about it but when my mind brings it up and I focus on it for a min or two, the whole idea of mortality and life and existence sink in to me.

I live in the real here and now but manage to ignore it. Even when I'd see people die daily in front of me while working at the ER.

 

[Krakerjak]

I know how you feel dude.
If i knew where we went after death i would tell you but i do not and i'am searching for answers as much as you.

I believe although my feeble mind does not understand or even at times tells me otherwise.
I just confide in the fact that everybody is in the same boat, without exception.

 

[Abhi]

If you ve been bad.... AT Politics and News....

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Does anyone else want to believe that we all go somewhere and are reunited with family and friends? I do lol.

yup, that's why just about the entire world is religious

 

[LeStEr]

I dont think there is any afterlife, when you die you go to sleep and dont wake up.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: Nocturnal

Originally posted by: EmperorOfIceCream
who are we? our body dissipates as time passes by,
our feelings we feel physically,
our thoughts...how close are they to motion?

Consciousness exists...but where?

Maybe we don't go anywhere at all...

Good thought. I just want to believe that I'll be reunited with my loved ones once again. I just want to believe. I try to believe.

If you want to believe it so badly why question it and look into the matter? All that could happen is that you change your idea about it and start believing something you don't want to believe, and thus make yourself unhappy.

 

[AIWGuru]

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
I just wish he'd show me a sign, show his face, show me that he is real and exists. I'd do anything and everything for him. I'm sure everyone says the same. The thing is, he wants us all to have faith. It's hard though but I guess I'll get by.

Well, I'm not a Christian anymore but the philosophical ground you're treading on is something that you may not have been taught.

Popular belief seems to be that everything happens for a reason and that it's all part of God's plan. Maybe on the macro level, but scripture doesn't support that on the level of day to day life.
A prominent theme in Christianity has always been choice.
From the time lucifer was expelled from Heaven over freedom of choice to Eve and the apple (eve wasn't the first woman, BTW) it's always been about choice.

The garden is, of course, symbollic of the life we supposedly had before choice.

The principle of salvation in the new testament also hinges on choice.
God will clean you of your sins and take you to heaven, but only if you choose to believe in him and choose to confess your sins.
Why?
The champion of choice (vs predetermined destiny) is Lucifer (satan) and he will temp people on earth with sin.

In this sense, satan is good (not evil) because predetermined destiny is bad.

So choosing God is a good thing. The problem is that if we know God exists, that is to say, if he showed you a sign or his face as you request, there is no choice. How can there be faith or choice in the face of overwhelming evidence. That's not faith, that's just knowledge.

So God can't show himself or you can't be saved since choice has been requesite for salvation since the war in heaven over free choice.

Accordingly, everything that happens on earth, except for acts of god is our own doing. No blaming everything on god. Man has been given freedom of determination and he can choose good or evil.
When someone flies a plane into a tower, it has nothing to do with a message from god, or satan or anything like that. It's a choice than a man or group of men made. Oh, there may be influences from Satan (cultural, etc) or God but ultimately, it's the man's decision.
Same goes for genocide and great acts of Altruism.

So the doctrine goes anyway...

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: LeStEr
I dont think there is any afterlife, when you die you go to sleep and dont wake up.

Yep... Anyone been on anesthesia before, the gas that makes you sleep? That really made me feel like I just ceased to exist. I was gone for about an hour, and when I woke up, I could actually feel that the time has passed, but that one hour I was gone is like this blank spot in my memory. I have a feeling dying is the same thing.

 

[Nebor]

You return to the source...

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Originally posted by: notfred
I think we rot away in a hole in the ground, personally.

I agree.

... Where do other living beings go when they die? I have no reason to believe that we go to any place other than the one they do.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
I just wish he'd show me a sign, show his face, show me that he is real and exists. I'd do anything and everything for him. I'm sure everyone says the same. The thing is, he wants us all to have faith. It's hard though but I guess I'll get by.

He tried that once. Then he was killed. Go figure.

 

[TheBoyBlunder]

Pittsburgh?

We play saxaphone for an all-girl cabaret?

 

[FoBoT]

i believe you will be with your grandfather again after you pass from this life

hang in there Nocturnal, you'll be ok

 

[ThePresence]

Where do bad folks go when they die?
They don?t go to heaven where the angels fly
They go down to the lake of fire and fry
Won?t see them again till the fourth of july

 

[Anubis]

you go in the ground and become fertalizer