So what's up with SETI?

[Sukhoi]

Last time I checked in here a month or two ago it seemed normal. Now I don't see any of the oldtimers that I recognize and it seems that SETI is dead. What happened? I was just going to install BOINC but now I'm not sure what to do.

 

[Freewolf]

A lot of us is at Rosetta these days.

 

[Wolfsraider]

I am at Rosetta, although I just realized that my boinc install is not running :Q

 

[Fardringle]

I have 24 different active BOINC projects attached on my home PC (including SETI). :evil: Now if I can just get the Boinc Alpha team to let me create an account for that one..

I did SETI Classic for years, but I mostly run Rosetta, Malaria Control, and XtremeLab now.

 

[Michael]

I'm still crunch for SETI, but under my name instead of "Michael and the Cuppies".

I do 50/50 between SETI and Rosetta. That is one benfit of BOINC

Michael

 

[ken008]

I run Rosetta ,with a few clicks of the mouse I can be running any Boinc project. It is very cool. You can split running time between projects.

 

[OhioDude]

Rosetta for me.

The tremendous proliferation of DC projects has spread the old guard around. A lot of the old timers are still here... we just mostly lurk, though.

 

[Smoke]

Old Timers? :shocked:













"I resemble that remark." :laugh:

Smoke waves at the rest of the "old timers". :beer:

 

[Rattledagger]

Originally posted by: Sukhoi
Last time I checked in here a month or two ago it seemed normal. Now I don't see any of the oldtimers that I recognize and it seems that SETI is dead. What happened? I was just going to install BOINC but now I'm not sure what to do.

Well, I'm still doing the daily SETI@home-stats, and as long as SetiatWork is down the weekly stats instead of Assimilator1, but Berkeley had a small backend-server-problem, and for this reason there haven't been any stats for 4 days before now they're back.

As for my crunching, still my main project is SETI@home, but is normally also crunching some wu for any new BOINC-project... and with BBC/CPDN's 5 months-wu even with only one running my seti-production is down... Oh, and when new beta-builds is released, has a tendency to run seti-beta instead of "main".


As for "what happened", Seti_Enhanced was released in May, for majority of wu this means 2x-3x longer crunch-times compared to "normal" seti-v4.18, and some users thinks this is too long...

Another change is that before optimized seti-applications was 3x-4x times faster than the "standard" application, and this on average also gave 3x-4x more credit/hour. Since most of the optimizations is already in Seti_Enhanced, optimized Seti_Enhanced is more along the lines of 1.2x-1.5x, and for many the biggest complaint is they're not getting the same credit/hour as before any longer...

Seti_Enhanced also "counts flops" to decide claimed credit, instead of relying on the BOINC-benchmark, and apparently the claims from this is a little low, so for next release they'll be roughly 5% higher. Another problem is that not all types of calculations is as effective on all computers, and different angle-ranges has different amounts of the various calculations, meaning number of flops isn't linear with crunch-time. For this reason, VLAR is again having a disadvantage over other angle-ranges, and while haven't seen any advantage on VHAR on my Amd's, Intel and especially Intel-M seems to have an advantage on high angle-ranges...

There was also a bug in the splitter, giving some wu that crunched for many hours but only gave 0.1 credits or something, and others there application crashed. The splitter-bug has been fixed. There still seems to be an application-bug there some wu can get "stuck", but the upcoming beta will hopefully fix this...

Lastly, there's been many over-heated discussions on the seti-forums, and this topped itself when Crunch3r, the one releasing the fastest optimized applications for windows, left SETI@home partially due to cheating-accussations by one user on the seti-forums, but also partially since he was feeling ignored by Eric Korpela since didn't answer an email-message that hind-sight has shown didn't make it past the spam-filter...


Anyway, SETI@home has now finally started distribution of the last box of tapes that was collected at Arecibo when they installed the new recorder earlier this month, so anything from 2005/2006 showing-up is new tapes not crunched before.
Hopefully by the time these tapes is depleted, Astropulse is ready to take over, or all the neccessary changes to start distributing data from the new recorder is finished...

 

[Ken g6]

I've been over on SB, and I've been doing some sieving over there too. I'm getting DSL in a few days, so I may go back and try BOINCing something. But I don't plan to go back to SETI, especially after this article.

 

[RaySun2Be]

a lot of us old geezers are still around. I just don't post as much as I used too. haven't posted this week due to a kidney stone that doesn't want to pass on through. Not doing SETI once they switched to BOINC, doing DIMES, SOB, & F@H on just a couple of boxes.

 

[Assimilator1]

Well I'm one of the die hard SETIers whose still doing it

Though I have been doing some DPAD too.
As been said ,many poeple diversified after SETI classic ended

Ken g6
Until that article is backed up by other sources I wouldn't take much notice of it.

*me waves back to smoke*

[edit]btw I've been busy with RL stuff ,new job, doing up an old car etc.
Once the car's done I hope to be here more ....oh yea & I've been gaming more

 

[The Borg]

When you say old timers, are you refering to the old guys, or the ones that have been processing for a long time? I am one of the latter. Mainly SETI Classic. Took me a while to move over to BOINC, but it is good.

I don't do much SETI, it is killing me on my dial up connection, and keeping The Borg fed is just not an option with the size of the files.

I mainly do QMC and Xtremlab - they give me the best credits and the downloads and uploads are small. So I can keep the machines (9 boxes, 16 procs) sufficiently fed. But as always, the net bemifit of the passionate adiction is science.

 

[Wiz]

I quit seti when classic ended. 6 years of my life is all they get.

Now I'm on Rosetta@Home on Team Enterprise. It's Boinc, but it's good

 

[TurtleBlue]

Initialization of Seti began on May 17, 1999 for me...

Not exactly an "old timer" but first brush with the net was back in the CompuServe days...:Q

Jumped out of the Seti Classic "Titanic" just before it sank...:brokenheart:

Latched onto F@H and have never looked back...:beer:

 

[panhead49]

some old timers are still around and crunching....even me

 

[Coquito]

It's too hot to crunch.

 

[LANMAN]

Originally posted by: Smoke
Old Timers? :shocked:













"I resemble that remark." :laugh:

Smoke waves at the rest of the "old timers". :beer:

(*Lanman waves back at Smoke..)

--LANMAN

 

[networkman]

This "old timer" splits his remaining cycles amongst various BOINC projects, most notably Einstein@Home and MalariaControl.

I'm also digging more into the "hands on" of radio-astronomy, so although I'm still doing some work with computers, I'm having to do ALOT of reading to make some of the data being collected mean enough to me so that I can explain it to others. I'm not quite there yet.

 

[Spacehead]

SoB & Folding for me as payback to those TeAms helping out our SETI TeAm when we needed them.


How you been Sukhoi?

 

[Assimilator1]

*me waves to Wiz*

 

[Wiz]

*me waves to Wiz*

Hey Mark, how's it all going on your side of the world?

What car are you working on now?

 

[Viztech]

Originally posted by: LANMAN

Originally posted by: Smoke
Old Timers? :shocked:

Another Old Timer Waving to all other Old Timers.

I've been doing DPAD for quite a while. Yes there is plenty of projects to choose from out there. Stormgiant and DanC got me started in DPAD.

viz













"I resemble that remark." :laugh:

Smoke waves at the rest of the "old timers". :beer:

(*Lanman waves back at Smoke..)

--LANMAN

 

[Bateluer]

I crunch for SETI, I'm just not a member of the AT team.

 

[Assimilator1]

Then join us

Wiz
Its a 12yr old Nissan Micra ,intial plan was to fix the burnt out part of a loom (which was easy enough),pull out the boot floor & then weld up some rust & flog it on ,turned out there was much more rust than I 1st thought ,the ECU was dead,rear brakes are worn out ,timing chains are rattling,& oh yea I got a tax fine even though they had been told it was off the road!:|.
Instead of making £300-350 I'll be lucky if I make £50-100 from it
Wish I'd never bothered now ,usually I don't! ,fixing my own (main) car on the odd occasion is enough.Handy though that my new job is a tech at Nissan