I'm having a hard time figuring this out, as I have never experienced this before.
Is this comparative to a green party take over of the democrats?
Is this comparative to a green party take over of the democrats?
So what's the diff between a tea party member and a republican?
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I assume tea party is republican without the religious social BS. i.e. actually conservative.
Not sure if it would be like the green party. The Greens here are actually farther right than most of our parties on many issues except the environment and truly are at a different location on the political compass. I feel the tea party is simply old school republican more akin to its roots than the BS it has become this century.
Not sure if it would be like the green party. The Greens here are actually farther right than most of our parties on many issues except the environment and truly are at a different location on the political compass. I feel the tea party is simply old school republican more akin to its roots than the BS it has become this century.
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tea party members are concerned about federal deficits and the robbing of future generations to make things work now. This differs from the current crop of republicans who let dubya increase the federal budget at record pace and who let obama add more than $2.5 trillion in debt in his first 19 months.
Funny how they get cheers from tea party crowds when GOP pols talk about dems as "baby killers" for their pro-choice position, and label Obama a pussy for not being more of a warhawk. I thought libertarians were pro-choice and generally not hawkish on foreign policy. Strange this group of libertarians seem a lot like conservatives. Must be my imagination.
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the ones that have won have mostly been very religious. Take Angle and O'Donnell for instance.
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Glenn Beck's "Restore Our Honor" Lincoln Memorial rally appears to be the first step in his campaign to pull theocrats into the Tea Party sphere.
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"So what's the diff between a tea party member and a republican?"
nothing; and they dirty the name of libertarian....
nothing; and they dirty the name of libertarian....
The theocrats are the nucleus of that sphere already. Polling of tea partiers shows a pro-life position, which makes them statists on social issues, and a right wing foreign policy stance. Their keynote speakers are republican pols - Palin, Bachmann, Tancredo, who spout these anti-libertarian positions at their rallies and get big cheers. Most of their candidates are religious conservatives. Glenn Beck, a religious conservative, is the single most admired figure in that movement and has done more to spark it than anyone else in America. The "tea party" movement...isn't. It's just a bunch of republicans who are angry that the democrats took over in 2008, with some libertarians mixed in. It's why it didn't exist until the 2008 campaign even though real libertarians had tons of things to complain about during the Bush years, and it's why it will go away as soon as the GOP wins control again. We could have another 8 years of deficit expansion, conservative social policies, high defense spending, and neo-con war hawkish policies, and you won't hear a peep out of them.
This emporer has no clothes.
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Pretty much. Both the Tea Party & Green Party want the power removed from Washington and brought back to more local governments. Republicans and Democrats largely just want to win elections for the sake of winning elections, no matter what the candidate stands for they just want the party-line vote.
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The Tea Partiers are your next door neighbors by the millions finally pissed off enough to drive hundreds and thousands of miles to Washington DC to protest for the first time in their lives. They clean up their mess and then they go to visit the monuments, which they find inspirational.
Democrats demonstrated like that in the 60's and think the issues that were important to them then are still the issues now. But, like then, they make messes that they don't clean up and more than a few only go to the monuments to laugh at such symbols of racism and capitalist oppression.
Republicans don't demonstrate. They are inspired when they drive by the monuments. They have been looking for love in all the wrong places.
Democrats demonstrated like that in the 60's and think the issues that were important to them then are still the issues now. But, like then, they make messes that they don't clean up and more than a few only go to the monuments to laugh at such symbols of racism and capitalist oppression.
Republicans don't demonstrate. They are inspired when they drive by the monuments. They have been looking for love in all the wrong places.
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I've known lots of Democrats in my lifetime. Every single one of them loves this country and the ideals it aspires too. I don't know anyone who has spit on any monument, I know lots who have wept at monuments that remind us of the sacrifices made to ensure our liberty. Every Democrat I know or know of is a capitalist too.
If you represent the mindset of a Tea Partier, then I'd say it is the most un-American group to come along in a while. Being American is about moving forward, it isn't about hating your fellow Americans.
If you represent the mindset of a Tea Partier, then I'd say it is the most un-American group to come along in a while. Being American is about moving forward, it isn't about hating your fellow Americans.
don't forget to include Ronald Reagan in that comparison. he may be your hero but he was just behind W in regards to national debt.
as far as the nutjob tea baggers go, they are just splitting their own party, the Republicans.
All those extreme, exaggerated cliches that get tossed around describing stereotypical Republicans aren't extreme and exaggerated when applied to teabaggers. That's the difference, it's one of degree.
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Republicans don't win national elections by harping on the "social issues", so they retreat to their safe havens of taxes, spending, and the size of government. That's all well and good, except that when they win power on the coattails of advocating lower taxes, spending, and smaller government they start trying to legislate morality and give the evangelical Christians more of what they want. Look into the Terry Schiavo situation as a key example.
This is what's so great about our MSM. They never explain these things. They just talk about it so that you feel like you're out of the loop and have to watch more to learn what it is. So then you watch more and they get more advertising revenue.
I recall something very similar happening with (some event on US shores). BBC was coming out with hourly updates with new information gleaned from sources, talking heads on our TV (CNN, MSN, etc) weren't giving any new info, just lining up new "experts" to theorize about random stuff.
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It's the spending stupid.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...5493953591176476.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop
What is the point of stimulating the economy with tax cuts only to have a $1.4 trillion deficit. Something has to be done now to reverse the course or they will be no option other than to increase taxes further.
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They have in the past and to say otherwise is silly. Gay Marriage on the ballots in 2004 swept Bush into a second term.
Tea partiers are people who are too stupid and lazy to follow politics but finally found someone who can speak at their level and direct them (Palin), and have a brown person they can focus their anger at.
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The ones now that will have to bow to the Dems for over two years of unemployment and Obama for handouts.
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