So what's the big deal with Ubuntu?
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Platypus
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lol.. first of all Gnome is not part of Linux.
Ubuntu is the newest Linux darling that attracts undue attention and a new wave of people who install it and do absolutely nothing with it but make eye candy desktops... that and a monkey could install it. It uses a hacked together version of the old apt system lifted from Debian with bloaty binary packages. There's nothing wrong with it or with using it for that purpose mind you but it's kind of pointless.. despite endless attempts to make Linux a replacement for Windows, it's just not going to happen for a long while.
Bottom line, it's great for people who think it's neat to run Linux with no real actual reason to run a server OS on a desktop machine. There will be hordes of Ubuntu followers who quote this and say this is not the case with them but I digress.
Ubuntu is the newest Linux darling that attracts undue attention and a new wave of people who install it and do absolutely nothing with it but make eye candy desktops... that and a monkey could install it. It uses a hacked together version of the old apt system lifted from Debian with bloaty binary packages. There's nothing wrong with it or with using it for that purpose mind you but it's kind of pointless.. despite endless attempts to make Linux a replacement for Windows, it's just not going to happen for a long while.
Bottom line, it's great for people who think it's neat to run Linux with no real actual reason to run a server OS on a desktop machine. There will be hordes of Ubuntu followers who quote this and say this is not the case with them but I digress.
I wouldn't call myself a Ubuntu follower, I just find it easy enough to use as a development environment. I prefer spending my time actually working than trying to fix my linux distro.
I remember trying Red hat 5/6 back in high school, and that was a friggan mess.
I switched to kubuntu (kde version of ubuntu) recently and its gotten to the point where its very usable as a desktop OS. Multimedia wise, I can do everything I did in windows so I'm mainly using that over XP now.
I'm hoping this will be a launching pad to other distros as I get more comfortable with linux in general.
Just dual boot and see for your self.
I switched to kubuntu (kde version of ubuntu) recently and its gotten to the point where its very usable as a desktop OS. Multimedia wise, I can do everything I did in windows so I'm mainly using that over XP now.
I'm hoping this will be a launching pad to other distros as I get more comfortable with linux in general.
Just dual boot and see for your self.
I did the same thing, kinda. I think I've tried every major version of Mandrake since 5, but never really got around to using linux full time.
Just wondering what the big hoopla around this one is. Guess I'll give the live cd a try...
sourceninja
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Maybe someone should tell all these progammers to stop making desktop applications for a server OS. I use ubuntu on a lot of computers, some are servers (I am using ubuntu over debian right now at work for a simple lamp server), some are destkops. I use it simply because it has an easy install, good package management (which is getting better with each release), and a nice clean default install of gnome (which is getting less clean and less default with each release). I perfer gentoo for my home box because I like the ease of the package managment for managing all my apps including proprietary ones, but for most people ubuntu is a simple, easy to install version of debian unstable with security updates.
ultimatebob
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Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
It's great for newbies
And it's considered to be more "cool" than Fedora, now that Red Hat has "sold out" and now charges for most of their commercial products.
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Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
It's great for newbies
And it's considered to be more "cool" than Fedora, now that Red Hat has "sold out" and now charges for most of their commercial products.
They make their money on support and releasing patches. RH spun off Fedora because enterprises didn't want a new release every 6 months. Fedora came out to fill that bleeding edge void while RHEL came out with a predictable release cycle with custom made updates and patches as vulnerabilities come out. Instead of installing a new version, they release a patch for the older version that doesn't force you to make widespread changes and risk having things fall apart on you.
I don't neccesarily agree with this practice but they filled a void that was begging to be filled.
Ubuntu is an excellent Linux distro for newbies to learn on ,also has a plethora of support for all kinds of hardware and a huge very helpful community too.
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I like Ubuntu because it's really fast/easy to set up a a box for development work. I couldn't care less about the desktop, the majority of the time. It's far easier for me to set up FTP/Apache/MySQL/etc and do web development on a local Ubuntu box than on just about anything else. The ease and speed of setting it up is one thing that makes it awesome. There's *very little* customization necessary (and in some cases, even possible).
I dislike Ubuntu for several reasons... the first reason that comes to mind is that I dislike the 'no root' approach.
If I wanted a box that needed to be efficient, to be a secure server, that was going to be used in a production environment, etc., or if I wanted to heavily customize it, I'd definitely look elsewhere. Right now Ubuntu's main selling point with me is going from a formatted hard drive to a stable development server inside of an hour or two (I *hate* having to customize things when I want to get something specific accomplished). If I had sufficient experience with other distros, I might be able to set the up with the same speed, but that obviously doesn't apply.
I dislike Ubuntu for several reasons... the first reason that comes to mind is that I dislike the 'no root' approach.
If I wanted a box that needed to be efficient, to be a secure server, that was going to be used in a production environment, etc., or if I wanted to heavily customize it, I'd definitely look elsewhere. Right now Ubuntu's main selling point with me is going from a formatted hard drive to a stable development server inside of an hour or two (I *hate* having to customize things when I want to get something specific accomplished). If I had sufficient experience with other distros, I might be able to set the up with the same speed, but that obviously doesn't apply.
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I perfer sudo for most tasks over a su. I find it easier to administer if I want to say, give access to a user to allow them to do one function that would normally require root. The downside is if someone compromises their account password, they essentially compromise all their advanced privliges. But that is not much different then say replacing su with a version in their home directory that simply logs the password and tells them invalid password. A simple way to get the root password with only a single users password.
We just hope that openssh with public key + password is secure enough to keep out most trouble makers.
We just hope that openssh with public key + password is secure enough to keep out most trouble makers.
ubuntu is based on debian which is way more stable and goes thru less changes than fedora. Similarly CentOS is based on RHEL and undergoes less changes (doesnt have the latest and greatest but most stable/tested) so is good for server type stuff. I use fedora myself, for a desktop/dev env its ok, but for running servers i would prefer debian
It's easier to use I guess, than other distros?
I don't know, my brother has it (soon will I) and he says it's easier to install/input sh**/etc. than other distros he's used.
I don't know, my brother has it (soon will I) and he says it's easier to install/input sh**/etc. than other distros he's used.
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