so what your take on SOPA

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wahdangun

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so according to this article : linky even tomshardware afraid of SOPA.

so why anandtech seem doesn't care at all ?

i mean, anandtech can be shutdown just because some user in here post something that have copyright in it.


to be honest its really sad that america have come down to this state its very pathetic. the land of freedom have become the land of corruption.

AnandTech members care here:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2213745
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2214289
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2205899

and all of you can participate.

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SSSnail

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We did in a thread about a month ago, and ignorant plus apathy took it for a ride into the land of obscurity.
 

waggy

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SOPA is a shitty law that should not pass but will because corps own the government.

saying that there has been a post on it.
 

destrekor

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government is like an organism, and regardless of what politicians this pestilent little ah heck inhabits, it will find a way to create one hell of an epic failure.

Government gets new land, then the People riot and demand freedom, so Government plays along. But Government has a plan, you see? It will make the people slowly grow impatient and needy, so that a time comes when the People demand a new task for Government: hand-holding. Government wanted this all along, and so it gets to slowly reenact all its favorite laws and acts, and the People beg for it this time!

Government: muahahahaha
People: moar!!!!

Seriously, we're doomed. I have no faith in my fellow countrymen. In some, but not the collective. :(

Bring a war to this soil, they'll be there and bring everything they've got.
Use their brain and/or make with sacrifice when no immediate danger threatens to breach their personal bubble? Bwahahaha
 

MtnMan

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Then we won't even be able to post about the corporate owned whores in Washington that passed this ultimately stupid law, just to protect the freaks in Hollywood and their drug crazed party party mentality.
 

MotF Bane

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The text of SOPA should be carved out of steel, and then rammed sideways up the ass of everyone who thinks it is a good idea.
 

Fingolfin269

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Net folks are kind of a funny bunch. We waste a ton of energy on a guy bullying someone over a video game controller but get /crickets over something like SOPA.
 

MtnMan

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SOPA is a shitty law that should not pass but will because corps own the government.

saying that there has been a post on it.
It's not even the cops, it's the industry that contributes only a tiny tiny bit to the national economy, and are the biggest crybabies about someone listened to their song for free.
 

wahdangun

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We did in a thread about a month ago, and ignorant plus apathy took it for a ride into the land of obscurity.

wow I didn't know about that, but why mod didn't make it sticky ? i think this is very important and everyone need to know about it.
 

Pardus

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and don't forget to move your website from GOdady

GoDaddy no longer supports SOPA. Here

List of Supporters: H.R. 3261, the Stop Online Piracy Act


60 Plus Association
ABC
Alliance for Safe Online Pharmacies (ASOP)
American Bankers Association (ABA)
American Federation of Musicians (AFM)
American Federation of Television and Radio Artists (AFTRA)
American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (ASCAP)
Americans for Tax Reform
Artists and Allied Crafts of the United States
Association of American Publishers (AAP)
Association of State Criminal Investigative Agencies
Association of Talent Agents (ATA)
Beachbody, LLC
BMI
BMG Chrysalis
Building and Construction Trades Department
Capitol Records Nashville
CBS
Cengage Learning
Christian Music Trade Association
Church Music Publishers' Association
Coalition Against Online Video Piracy (CAOVP)
Comcast/NBCUniversal
Concerned Women for America (CWA)
Congressional Fire Services Institute
Copyhype
Copyright Alliance
Coty, Inc.
Council of Better Business Bureaus (CBBB)
Council of State Governments
Country Music Association
Country Music Television
Creative America
Deluxe
Directors Guild of America (DGA)
Disney Publishing Worldwide, Inc.
Elsevier
EMI Christian Music Group
EMI Music Publishing
Entertainment Software Association (ESA)
ESPN
Estée Lauder Companies
Fraternal Order of Police (FOP)
Gospel Music Association
Graphic Artists Guild
Hachette Book Group
HarperCollins Publishers Worldwide, Inc.
Hyperion
Independent Film & Television Alliance (IFTA)
International Alliance of Theatrical and Stage Employees (IATSE)
International AntiCounterfeiting Coalition (IACC)
International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW)
International Brotherhood of Teamsters (IBT)
International Trademark Association (INTA)
International Union of Police Associations
L'Oreal
Lost Highway Records
Macmillan
Major County Sheriffs
Major League Baseball
Majority City Chiefs
Marvel Entertainment, LLC
MasterCard Worldwide
MCA Records
McGraw-Hill Education
Mercury Nashville
Minor League Baseball (MiLB)
Minority Media & Telecom Council (MMTC)
Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA)
Moving Picture Technicians
MPA - The Association of Magazine Media
National Association of Manufacturers (NAM)
National Association of Prosecutor Coordinators
National Association of State Chief Information Officers
National Cable & Telecommunications Association (NCTA)
National Center for Victims of Crime
National Crime Justice Association
National District Attorneys Association
National Domestic Preparedness Coalition
National Football League
National Governors Association, Economic Development and Commerce Committee
National League of Cities
National Narcotics Offers' Associations' Coalition
National Sheriffs' Association (NSA)
National Songwriters Association
National Troopers Coalition
News Corporation
Pearson Education
Penguin Group (USA), Inc.
Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA)
Pfizer, Inc.
Provident Music Group
Random House
Raulet Property Partners
Republic Nashville
Revlon
Scholastic, Inc.
Screen Actors Guild (SAG)
Showdog Universal Music
Sony/ATV Music Publishing
Sony Music Entertainment
Sony Music Nashville
State International Development Organization (SIDO)
The National Association of Theatre Owners (NATO)
The Perseus Books Groups
The United States Conference of Mayors
Tiffany & Co.
Time Warner
True Religion Brand Jeans
Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC)
UMG Publishing Group Nashville
United States Chamber of Commerce
United States Olympic Committee
United States Tennis Association
Universal Music
Universal Music Publishing Group
Viacom
Visa Inc.
W.W. Norton & Company
Wallace Bajjali Development Partners, L.P.
Warner Music Group
Warner Music Nashville
Wolters Kluewer Health
Word Entertainment
 

Kreon

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No SOPA

Already wrote my reps. My senator (who I didn't vote for and likely never will) is a co-sponsor of PIPA (Senate version of SOPA).

The thing that pisses me off about SOPA the most is that it doesn't even work. DNS filtering will not stop piracy. Especially when I can just plug in the IP address and still get around. And there are already extensions for Chrome and FF to defeat it. Utterly useless, and all it will do is create censorship for the masses.

I can only hope that after it passes, either the courts will block it or the IP holders will be dumb enough to gag Facebook (angering the masses).
 

mmntech

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GoDaddy no longer supports SOPA. Here

Shameful. It's a who's who of corporate scumbags. Ironically, these are the companies that benefit the most from free speech. Yet they want censorship. Chinese style censorship at that. The RIAA is conspicuously missing from the list though. Curious.

I've always thought that there is more going on with the piracy debate than just piracy. Many of the groups on the list are the winners of the media consolidation boom of the 90s and 2000s. Six stand out. Time Warner, Sony, Disney, Viacom, Newscorp, and Universal. Six companies that control a considerable majority stake in global media.

What SOPA does is grant these six giants considerable amounts of legibus solutus. (Latin for "free from law"). They are not bound by normal constitutional conventions of due process. It grants unelected individuals the ability to wreak a form of legalized vigilante justice. It goes against everything our society was built on. The wording of the law if far too vague, and that's dangerous territory for the power it awards.

What it also does is allow further media consolidation. What concerns SOPA opponents is the fear that media giants will go on a censorship spree to crush competitors, without having to justify their actions in front of the courts. It's a perfectly reasonable fear as well. We already have patent and copyright trolls who run amok trying to stomp the competition. There's zero guarantee SOPA won't be used this way. In fact, I'd say it's almost inevitable it will be used this way.

I do indeed think this is being used as another tool of media imperialism, just as deregulation some 30 years ago. This does not benefit us as a society, period. Whether you're a pirate or not, you should be very concerned about this.We already have laws concerning copyright, done through the courts.

Stepping into conspiracy territory here, but the timing of the law is also curious. I don't think this would fly at all with the public if the economy were doing well.
 

BoomerD

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Even though I've read bits and pieces about the SOPA, I don't know enough about it to form a solid opinion.

I'm against piracy...and think that everyone who pirates a movie or software is a fucking thief who should be prosecuted, it sounds like this law goes a bit too far in trying to protect the owners of such property.

At this time, I'll wait until I get more information about EXACTLY what it will do, who it will protect, what the penalties might include, and what loopholes it creates, before I decide. I'm against overly-restrictive legislation that goes far beyond what's needed to correct a problem...and as such, I'm leaning toward being against this...but haven't committed yet.
 

Bubbaleone

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England (no disrespect intended) long held to the belief that because they were the major player behind colonizing the americas, north america's eastern seaboard in particular, that the grateful colonists would gladly comply in supplying the Empire with untold riches for countless generations without complaint (SOPA). Well, we all know how that turned out.

When prohibition (SOPA) was made into law at the beginning of the past century, it's American "political" backers were sure that they'd at last found a, moraly righteous, and legal means of monopolizing the international liquor trade. I know, I know...but if you really read the historical facts, sobering up America was just a good cover story and putting a spin on the news isn't anything new. And we all know how prohibition turned out.

When America's political/industrial war machine (SOPA). decided it needed a new means of communication it sought out the best and brightest civilian minds to create what has instead become the ever evolving social phenomena known as the internet. Just ask the now defunct Soviet Union (SOPA), Saddam Hussein Abd al-Majid al-Tikriti (SOPA), or Muammar Muhammad Abu Minyar Gaddafi (SOPA), how the internet worked out for them.

My point is this, SOPA and it's ilk have been around since the dawn of time. And just as the invention of fire and the wheel forever changed the course of mankind, so has the internet. Once a human being tastes the freedom to travel new realms, to express their thoughts and ideas, to strive for their dreams, their is no turning back. And as history so emphatically demonstrates: woe unto those who think to subjugate even the simplest man's new found freedom.
 
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momeNt

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England (no disrespect intended) long held to the belief that because they were the major player behind colonizing the americas, north america's eastern seaboard in particular, that the grateful colonists would gladly comply in supplying the Empire with untold riches for countless generations without complaint (SOPA). Well, we all know how that turned out.

When prohibition (SOPA) was made into law at the beginning of the past century, it's American "political" backers were sure that they'd at last found a, moraly righteous, and legal means of monopolizing the international liquor trade. I know, I know...but if you really read the historical facts, sobering up America was just a good cover story and putting a spin on the news isn't anything new. And we all know how prohibition turned out.

When America's political/industrial war machine (SOPA). decided it needed a new means of communication it sought out the best and brightest civilian minds to create what has instead become the ever evolving social phenomena known as the internet. Just ask the now defunct Soviet Union(SOPA), Saddam Hussein Abd al-Majid al-Tikriti (SOPA), or Muammar Muhammad Abu Minyar Gaddafi (SOPA), how the internet worked out for them.

My point is this, SOPA and it's ilk have been around since the dawn of time. And just as the invention of fire and the wheel forever changed the course of mankind, so has the internet. Once a human being tastes the freedom to travel new realms, to express their thoughts and ideas, to strive for their dreams, their is no turning back. And as history so emphatically demonstrates: woe unto those who think to subjugate even the simplest man's new found freedom.

Great post, eloquent and beautiful in its analogies.
 

BarkingGhostar

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so according to this article : linky even tomshardware afraid of SOPA.

so why anandtech seem doesn't care at all ?

i mean, anandtech can be shutdown just because some user in here post something that have copyright in it.


to be honest its really sad that america have come down to this state its very pathetic. the land of freedom have become the land of corruption.
SOPA = Sh!t On People Agency
 
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